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Who will you vote for in the federal election?

Conservative (Stephen Harper)
156
30%
Liberal (Justin Trudeau)
117
23%
NDP (Thomas Mulcair)
132
25%
Green Party (Elizabeth May)
25
5%
Bloc Québécois (Gilles Duceppe)
25
5%
Other party please specify
11
2%
Undecided
9
2%
I'm not voting
44
8%
 
Total votes : 519

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Postby The Krogan » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:40 am

Really, I found it hard to make a decision on who to vote for in this election, I really just don't like any of the parties, they're all spouting the same thing, and nothings gonna change no matter how blue, red, or orange in the face they get from yelling that catchphrase.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:50 am

The Krogan wrote:Really, I found it hard to make a decision on who to vote for in this election, I really just don't like any of the parties, they're all spouting the same thing, and nothings gonna change no matter how blue, red, or orange in the face they get from yelling that catchphrase.


If Clan Urdnot was a party, you would make a decision easily. :p

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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:03 pm

The Krogan wrote:Really, I found it hard to make a decision on who to vote for in this election, I really just don't like any of the parties, they're all spouting the same thing, and nothings gonna change no matter how blue, red, or orange in the face they get from yelling that catchphrase.

They're all spouting the same thing? Have you even been keeping up with the election coverage? They most certainly are not.
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Postby Stormaen » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:08 pm

I'm not Canadian (unfortunately) so can't vote but I watched the CBC's interview with all the three 'main' party leaders.

IMHO, Trudeau came off best. He seemed a little vague and idealistic at times but he seemed to have genuine passion and drive. Harper seemed wooden and conceited. Rather than present ideas or answers, he repeated party lines time and again. However, the worst was Mulcair. He sounded disingenuous and something in the way he presented himself seemed to suggest he didn't quite believe what he was saying.

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Postby Kryozerkia » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:11 pm

In preparation for the vote tallies as the election evening and night progresses, I will leave this link to CBC's overview of national results here. I don't have TV but that doesn't mean I won't be following the election coverage and vote results as they roll in. Remember guys, election results start rolling in as soon as the Newfie polls close!

Remember to keep it civil as the results roll in later this evening. We're mature individuals who can rise above ideological differences.
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Kincoboh
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Postby Kincoboh » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:14 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:I'll gladly take Cameron over Harper any day of the week. He at least has integrity, unlike Harper.

Well, at least Harper didn't f*ck a pig, that's always a plus too.
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Gim
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Postby Gim » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:17 pm

Kincoboh wrote:
Nation of Quebec wrote:I'll gladly take Cameron over Harper any day of the week. He at least has integrity, unlike Harper.

Well, at least Harper didn't f*ck a pig, that's always a plus too.


What do you mean? Do you mean that he is corrupt?
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Mollary
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Postby Mollary » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:21 pm

Gim wrote:
Kincoboh wrote:Well, at least Harper didn't f*ck a pig, that's always a plus too.


What do you mean? Do you mean that he is corrupt?

No, Cameron actually literally fucked a pig. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggate
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Canadian Davsland
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:30 pm

My Prediction for the election:

LIberal Party: 114-161 Seats (Strong Minority Govt)

Conservative Party: 100-139 Seats (Defeated)

New Democratic Party: 51-90 Seats

Bloc Quebecois: 1-12 Seats

Green Party: 1 Seat

Others: 0-1 Seat
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Fanosolia
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Postby Fanosolia » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:33 pm

Mollary wrote:
Gim wrote:
What do you mean? Do you mean that he is corrupt?

No, Cameron actually literally fucked a pig. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggate


What's with all these weird scandals!? I mean peegate, drinking blood, and now this. What the hell politics?
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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:36 pm

I am currently in the US and aren't voting, and I don't really match up ideologically to any of Canada's major parties, but I wish all the parties good luck nonetheless. This will certainly be interesting.
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Fanosolia
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Postby Fanosolia » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:39 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:I am currently in the US and aren't voting, and I don't really match up ideologically to any of Canada's major parties, but I wish all the parties good luck nonetheless. This will certainly be interesting.


Hey tlt, you mentioned a long time ago that the libertarian party here is pretty moderate compared to the others, why's that?
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Kazirstan
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Postby Kazirstan » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:47 pm

Well, I voted NDP. Here's hoping it was worth it and the Cons don't win my riding again!

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Fanosolia
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Postby Fanosolia » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:51 pm

Kazirstan wrote:Well, I voted NDP. Here's hoping it was worth it and the Cons don't win my riding again!


W00t! Same here. They had no chance here in my riding, but it's principles.
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Kazirstan
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Postby Kazirstan » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:06 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
Kazirstan wrote:Well, I voted NDP. Here's hoping it was worth it and the Cons don't win my riding again!


W00t! Same here. They had no chance here in my riding, but it's principles.

Well, honestly, if I knew the NDP had no chance, I would have voted Liberal. But I think that the NDP have a chance to pull off a victory in my riding, a small chance, but it's there.

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Canadian Davsland
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:08 pm

I voted NDP hopefully my riding doesn't go to those fascist RefCons
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Nation of Quebec
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:13 pm

How soon until the votes are counted in the Atlantic provinces?

I think if we see the Liberals sweep the region they'll be in for a good night across the country.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:18 pm

Canadian Davsland wrote:I voted NDP hopefully my riding doesn't go to those fascist RefCons

Do we really have to jump back on the "Tories are not fascists" train?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:21 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:I am currently in the US and aren't voting, and I don't really match up ideologically to any of Canada's major parties, but I wish all the parties good luck nonetheless. This will certainly be interesting.


Hey tlt, you mentioned a long time ago that the libertarian party here is pretty moderate compared to the others, why's that?


-support for a flat tax over, well, no tax
-decentralization of state services instead of well, abolishment
-open to more environmental regulations
-fairly mainstream in the culture wars, despite reinstating Lauren Southern after the "scandal"

etc.

Canadian Davsland wrote:I voted NDP hopefully my riding doesn't go to those fascist RefCons


I'm sure the refcons want a complete reorgnization of the state's economy on corporatist grounds and a cultural rebirth associated with extreme militarism and nationalism. /sarc
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West Aurelia
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Postby West Aurelia » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:21 pm

What time will the results be out in UTC?
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Nation of Quebec
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:22 pm

Camicon wrote:
Canadian Davsland wrote:I voted NDP hopefully my riding doesn't go to those fascist RefCons

Do we really have to jump back on the "Tories are not fascists" train?


I agree the Harper Conservatives are probably one of the most authoritarian governments we've ever had, but I wouldn't say they're fascists. I think that word is terribly overused by people who have no idea what it means.
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Canadian Davsland
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:52 pm

Camicon wrote:
Canadian Davsland wrote:I voted NDP hopefully my riding doesn't go to those fascist RefCons

Do we really have to jump back on the "Tories are not fascists" train?


Nope but they do have those tenancies.
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Canadian Davsland
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:54 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:


Hey tlt, you mentioned a long time ago that the libertarian party here is pretty moderate compared to the others, why's that?


-support for a flat tax over, well, no tax
-decentralization of state services instead of well, abolishment
-open to more environmental regulations
-fairly mainstream in the culture wars, despite reinstating Lauren Southern after the "scandal"

etc.

Canadian Davsland wrote:I voted NDP hopefully my riding doesn't go to those fascist RefCons


I'm sure the refcons want a complete reorgnization of the state's economy on corporatist grounds and a cultural rebirth associated with extreme militarism and nationalism. /sarc


That has been their policy for the last 10 years my friend.
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Canadian Davsland
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:56 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:
Camicon wrote:Do we really have to jump back on the "Tories are not fascists" train?


I agree the Harper Conservatives are probably one of the most authoritarian governments we've ever had, but I wouldn't say they're fascists. I think that word is terribly overused by people who have no idea what it means.


True. Their more like Far Right, Neo Con Authoritarians.
I support Left Wing Socialism, and I am Anti Capitalism, I support Egalitarianism, and I support Socialist Libertarianism. I also believe corporatism is a poison in the world, and is unfair to the poor and middle class.

SOCIALISTS OF NATIONSTATES, UNITE!!!
I am a Supporter of the Anti-austerity strikes and Left Wing Socialist parties in Europe. Socialism is the system of the people.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:06 pm

Canadian Davsland wrote:
Parti Ouvrier wrote:I think you'll be disappointed with Trudeau in the next few years.


You won't know Trudeau will do poorly until he actually has time to PM. Anyway, Trudeau will be 100 times better that Harper.

A liberal Trudeau will be one hundred times better than conservative Harper! Interesting view coming from a self-confessed (sig), socialist. :eyebrow:
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