Ultimately, only a much simpler tax code and the abolition of corporate welfare will end corporatism. I don't think Hillary can block such things as the Farm Bill, but I hope she makes modest reforms.
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by Kelinfort » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:43 pm
by Alouite » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:00 pm
by Farnhamia » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:03 pm
by Geilinor » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:36 pm
by Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:59 pm
Geilinor wrote:I'm definitely with Sanders on campaign finance, health care, and education. However, I've been skeptical for a few reasons.
1.) I consider myself a moderate liberal and I'd prefer a more centrist candidate.
2.) Not sure if his proposals could get passed.
3.) He's much more left-wing than the general electorate.
by Atlanticatia » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:33 am
by Adab » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:38 am
by Eol Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:51 pm
by Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:09 pm
by Eol Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:11 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Reuters puts Sanders within six points of Clinton nationally.
by Wolfmanne2 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:18 pm
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Yeah precipitating on everyone doesn't go down well usually. You seem patient enough to chat to us, i'm willing to count that as nice.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:50 pm
Wolfmanne2 wrote:I'm starting to lean towards Clinton over Sanders now. I'm not really sure if Sanders could win nationally and I'm also unsure about his flat out opposition to TTIP. I mean, yes, TTIP as it stand rights now isn't totally great, but we shouldn't just 'give up' and throw years of negotiations out the windows. There just needs to be more transparency and a more socially minded agreement. Than there is the question of his effectiveness in matters of foreign policy over say Clinton or Biden. I agree with a few of his tax code reforms, but I think some will limit the US' competitiveness against the BRIC nations. As an European, I want our neighbour across to be capable. I'd trust Biden to be the man for the job, but sadly he's not running. I don't really strongly lean towards any candidate right now, but I was happily cheer on whatever Democrat will lead the party into the 2016 elections.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:51 pm
Eol Sha wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Reuters puts Sanders within six points of Clinton nationally.
I find it funny that Cuomo is polling higher than O'Malley.
by Idzequitch » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:01 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Reuters puts Sanders within six points of Clinton nationally.
by Glorious KASSRD » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:15 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Reuters puts Sanders within six points of Clinton nationally.
by Geilinor » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:19 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Wolfmanne2 wrote:I'm starting to lean towards Clinton over Sanders now. I'm not really sure if Sanders could win nationally and I'm also unsure about his flat out opposition to TTIP. I mean, yes, TTIP as it stand rights now isn't totally great, but we shouldn't just 'give up' and throw years of negotiations out the windows. There just needs to be more transparency and a more socially minded agreement. Than there is the question of his effectiveness in matters of foreign policy over say Clinton or Biden. I agree with a few of his tax code reforms, but I think some will limit the US' competitiveness against the BRIC nations. As an European, I want our neighbour across to be capable. I'd trust Biden to be the man for the job, but sadly he's not running. I don't really strongly lean towards any candidate right now, but I was happily cheer on whatever Democrat will lead the party into the 2016 elections.
1. His policies are popular across the nation. A campaign that focuses on pragmatic solutions to immediate issues (which his does) is a winner when the GOP keeps offering up the same stale "Tax breaks for the wealthy/boots on the ground overseas" nonsense.
2. It's not like Sanders won't sign trade agreements. He just won't support ones that don't provide for American workers, or ones where their jobs are likely to be shipped overseas.
3. Which ones will limit the competitiveness?
by Geilinor » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:22 pm
Atlanticatia wrote:Aww, Jimmy Carter. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jim ... mg00000067
by Eol Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:22 pm
Geilinor wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
1. His policies are popular across the nation. A campaign that focuses on pragmatic solutions to immediate issues (which his does) is a winner when the GOP keeps offering up the same stale "Tax breaks for the wealthy/boots on the ground overseas" nonsense.
2. It's not like Sanders won't sign trade agreements. He just won't support ones that don't provide for American workers, or ones where their jobs are likely to be shipped overseas.
3. Which ones will limit the competitiveness?
I thought Sanders has strong and clear opposition to trade agreements in general? That type of detailed consideration sounds more like what Clinton has argued on the issue.
by Ngelmish » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:23 pm
by Eol Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:37 pm
Of course, it would be detrimental for us to close all doors to trade. Bernie believes that trade agreements can be successful, as he wrote in an op-ed for the Huffington Post in 2007:
“Nobody I know believes we should place a wall around this country. Trade is a good thing, but what we must begin doing is negotiating fair trade agreements that reflect the interests of working families in America, working families in other countries, and not just large multinational corporations and the CEOs who help write these trade agreements.”
by Conserative Morality » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:49 pm
Ngelmish wrote:Perhaps O'Malley's tone could be a bit less strident on the subject, but at this point what else do you recommend he do? He's been issuing (good) white papers on almost every policy for a while and has been campaigning county to county, living room to living room. None of that is registering. Sanders is seen as either the only, or certainly the sexiest other candidate. The only thing O'Malley's gotten any traction with is pointing out, in a self-interested way of course, that the Democratic debate schedule is abysmal. Not necessarily the number of debates, but certainly their dates. If he's not going to make an issue out of that, what else is there? Just stop running?
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