Woman who tweeted "kill all white men" to remain in post

[Sebtopiaris]

Hello to you
It seems to me you're still unable to get the difference between saying "transexuals shouldn't be feminists but allies because they don't share our full experience" and "I hate transexuals" - but it's an HUGE difference. Also, I wrote the same for males, even highlighting that males do not share at all women's experience (that means that I think they are - generally, on average - worse allies than transexuals).
Also you conflate "transphobes" and "queerphobes": gender abolitionism is all pro-queer, in fact is the epitome of pro-queer. The very fact that we criticise some pro-heteronormativity behaviors and stereotypisations exhibited by transexuals is inherently and deeply queer.

There is no authentic unified female experience given differences of culture, class, education and - yes - sex assignation at birth so it is logically impossible for you to rule trans folk "in" or "out" of it. Furthermore you have no authority or right to exclude self-defining women from the category of "woman" - you are attempting to establish a false hierarchy and relations of control with yourself at the head. Gender abolitionism is inherently "anti-queer" because trying to remove gender from the vocabulary removes the tools to criticize societal technologies and methodologies of gendered hierarchy; there is a reason why cultural conservatives are also very keen to eliminate such terms. A pro-queer stance entails seeking to maximize individual space to express gendered selves and identities; you seek to use instruments of social control to isolate and eventually eliminate categories of self-defining women - that is anti-trans and anti-queer. You do not criticize "pro-heteronormative behaviours and stereotypes exhibited by transsexual individuals" as a neutral bystander - what you do is look for a way to justify stating that their identities are "inauthentic" because you have already decided that they are. A transwoman whose presentation behaviour is within "standard" feminine bounds is, to you, merely replaying stereotypes and helping to bolster a patriarchal framework, but a transwoman such as myself who is somewhat more queer in presentation and behaviour demonstrates to you "residual male energy" and again "proves" inauthenticity. Such commentary is not a neutral representation of the facts but a transphobic confirmation bias writ large.

Ultimately, there is no way to deny that TERFs are transphobic - we're unwanted outsiders who you want to keep out and marginalize in the short term and eliminate in the long-term through brainwashing "feminist" therapy to eliminate our unethical and immoral existences. These are exactly the methods advocated by conservative Christians through their bigoted and oppressive attempts to "reprogram" gay people; you'll have to forgive me if your protestations to "hate the sin, but love the sinner" have the ring of hand-waving and excuse making.

You are a bigot; that is your problem, not ours, and it is your moral duty as a feminist to try to overcome your unsustainable and unjustifiable prejudices.

Fucking oath DI, you rock!
#rekt

[Napkiraly]

Hello to you
It seems to me you're still unable to get the difference between saying "transexuals shouldn't be feminists but allies because they don't share our full experience" and "I hate transexuals" - but it's an HUGE difference. Also, I wrote the same for males, even highlighting that males do not share at all women's experience (that means that I think they are - generally, on average - worse allies than transexuals).
Also you conflate "transphobes" and "queerphobes": gender abolitionism is all pro-queer, in fact is the epitome of pro-queer. The very fact that we criticise some pro-heteronormativity behaviors and stereotypisations exhibited by transexuals is inherently and deeply queer.

There is no authentic unified female experience given differences of culture, class, education and - yes - sex assignation at birth so it is logically impossible for you to rule trans folk "in" or "out" of it. Furthermore you have no authority or right to exclude self-defining women from the category of "woman" - you are attempting to establish a false hierarchy and relations of control with yourself at the head. Gender abolitionism is inherently "anti-queer" because trying to remove gender from the vocabulary removes the tools to criticize societal technologies and methodologies of gendered hierarchy; there is a reason why cultural conservatives are also very keen to eliminate such terms. A pro-queer stance entails seeking to maximize individual space to express gendered selves and identities; you seek to use instruments of social control to isolate and eventually eliminate categories of self-defining women - that is anti-trans and anti-queer. You do not criticize "pro-heteronormative behaviours and stereotypes exhibited by transsexual individuals" as a neutral bystander - what you do is look for a way to justify stating that their identities are "inauthentic" because you have already decided that they are. A transwoman whose presentation behaviour is within "standard" feminine bounds is, to you, merely replaying stereotypes and helping to bolster a patriarchal framework, but a transwoman such as myself who is somewhat more queer in presentation and behaviour demonstrates to you "residual male energy" and again "proves" inauthenticity. Such commentary is not a neutral representation of the facts but a transphobic confirmation bias writ large.

Ultimately, there is no way to deny that TERFs are transphobic - we're unwanted outsiders who you want to keep out and marginalize in the short term and eliminate in the long-term through brainwashing "feminist" therapy to eliminate our unethical and immoral existences. These are exactly the methods advocated by conservative Christians through their bigoted and oppressive attempts to "reprogram" gay people; you'll have to forgive me if your protestations to "hate the sin, but love the sinner" have the ring of hand-waving and excuse making.

You are a bigot; that is your problem, not ours, and it is your moral duty as a feminist to try to overcome your unsustainable and unjustifiable prejudices.

Right on the money DI.

[Judah]

Meh, nothing wrong here. It's not like she said anything worthy of a charge of incitement to racial hatred and genocide. It's not like Goldsmiths was founded by white men.

I'll even bet that white men aren't responsible for letting her into their country in the first place.

Britain doesn't belong to white men. It belongs to a white woman, and her maj is fairly fond of people from around the Mediterranean.

You've somehow completely missed my point, but that's fine.

I'm sure that Her Majesty wouldn't at all appreciate the comments made by this lunatic, especially if her place of employment and position are taken into account.

[The Greater Holy Roman Empire III]

This is just awful.

A university's diversity officer will remain in post, despite provoking a storm of protest by tweeting #killallwhitemen and labelling people "white trash".
Bahar Mustafa also banned white men from a university event on diversifying the curriculum at Goldsmiths University, London.
She then defended her position by stating that she could not be racist because she is an ethnic minority woman.

Outraged students started a petition to remove welfare and diversity officer Bahar Mustafa after a number alleged racist incidents.

A Goldsmiths Student Union spokesman said: "Following action taken during the occupation of a university building last month, 165 students signed a petition calling for a vote of no confidence in welfare and diversity officer Bahar Mustafa.
"This represents 1.9 per cent of our 8,000+ members and our rules require three per cent to have signed to trigger a referendum.
Screen grab of Change.org's petition to have Bahar Mustafa removed
"The petition has therefore failed and so a vote will not take place.
"However, we recognise some students and a large number of people outside the organisation are unhappy with the work of our elected representatives.
"We are looking at how we can address those concerns in dialogue with our members and our trustees, who oversee our work."

The university petition ran for three weeks and was promoted through the Student Union website and social media.
Only members of the Student Union were allowed to vote.
A separate petition on change.org to remove Ms Mustafa from office has received more than 21,000 signatures.

The charming university union officer who tweeted "kill all white men" and called white people trash will remain in her post at the university. In my opinion, this is absolutely appalling. The unviersity should step in and remove this woman from her post and declare that they will not tolerate racism of any kind. But of course that won't happen because she's a strong oppressed minority womyn.

Thoughts?

get rid of this coughs.. person now!

[Ifreann]

Britain doesn't belong to white men. It belongs to a white woman, and her maj is fairly fond of people from around the Mediterranean.

You've somehow completely missed my point, but that's fine.

I'm sure that Her Majesty wouldn't at all appreciate the comments made by this lunatic, especially if her place of employment and position are taken into account.

See, its a joke. It's funny because her husband is Greek.

[Sebtopiaris]

Also, I wrote the same for males, even highlighting that males do not share at all women's experience (that means that I think they are - generally, on average - worse allies than transexuals).

How is one that sympathises with the movement an "ally" as opposed to a member of the movement? And why the fuck can't someone be a member because of their sex? That's fucking discrimination. Hell, can women not come and watch men play football now because they "can't share the experiences" of male footie players? The fuck is your problem?

[The Island of Quickscopers]

Is Chessmisstress still getting rekt?

[Sebtopiaris]

Is Chessmisstress still getting rekt?

It's easy to rek a skinhead, even if it's a skinhead with a vagina.

[The Island of Quickscopers]

Is Chessmisstress still getting rekt?

It's easy to rek a skinhead, even if it's a skinhead with a vagina.

Gud...Gud...

[Utrinque Paratus]

She's a racist moron that should have been removed.

[The Island of Quickscopers]

She's a racist moron that should have been removed.

#true

[Utrinque Paratus]

She's a racist moron that should have been removed.

#true

Damn right, it's true.

[Judah]

You've somehow completely missed my point, but that's fine.

I'm sure that Her Majesty wouldn't at all appreciate the comments made by this lunatic, especially if her place of employment and position are taken into account.

See, its a joke. It's funny because her husband is Greek.

Whose husband? Elizabeth's? Yes, Prince Philip is Greek. So? I don't get the joke.

[Ifreann]

See, its a joke. It's funny because her husband is Greek.

Whose husband? Elizabeth's? Yes, Prince Philip is Greek. So? I don't get the joke.

Greece, like Turkey, is on the Mediterranean. The Queen, whose country it is, is obviously a something fan of people from that part of the world, as she's fucking one of them.

[Lanoraie]

Oh for fuck's sake...

She needs to be removed. This kind of racist, sexist bullshit needs to stop.

(inb4 "shut up white male" I'm neither fully white nor am I male.)

[Republic of Coldwater]

And if she wrote "kill all black men" instead, she's screwed. This is a clear-cut example of how there is a huge double standard in today's society, while we condemn racism against blacks, we turn a blind eye to racism against whites.

[Risottia]

She's just another ignorant racist n*gro, just throw her in Africa, see how it feels to live in a 3rd world country rather than the paradise known as the U.S.A

she is turkish and lives in england. did you actually read the article?

Shush, Frazie, you're racist and anti-American too if you think that there are actually minorities other than African-Americans, and countries other than teh almeeghty Murica.

[Rednekylvania]

And if she wrote "kill all black men" instead, she's screwed. This is a clear-cut example of how there is a huge double standard in today's society, while we condemn racism against blacks, we turn a blind eye to racism against whites.

Unfortunately, there are those who will continuously legitimize reverse or inverse discrimination. It's a thing, and it blows, and just has to be dealt with on a case by case basis, because it is not politically correct to confront non-white based institutionalized race industries as a whole.

[Chessmistress]

Oh for fuck's sake...

She needs to be removed. This kind of racist, sexist bullshit needs to stop.

(inb4 "shut up white male" I'm neither fully white nor am I male.)

Right, you're not a male, and I just discovered you're not fully white. But still, you're anti-feminist, so hardly you can understand she suffer triple oppression (being non-white, woman, homosexual): she's wrong, but due her situation she cannot be really racist or sexist (recism = prejudice + power, sexism = prejudice + power).
However my congratulations: being "pro-bidets" is absolutely wonderful, I approve

Is Chessmisstress still getting rekt?

It's easy to rek a skinhead, even if it's a skinhead with a vagina.

Being a real feminist and being "a skinhead" it's very different, in fact a Radical Feminist is the exact opposite of a skinhead.
I know well the difference: I currently live with someone that can be roughly and barely defined "a skinhead with a vagina" (even tough she has long hair and she's soooo anti-violence and pacifist...).

[Utrinque Paratus]

Oh for fuck's sake...

She needs to be removed. This kind of racist, sexist bullshit needs to stop.

(inb4 "shut up white male" I'm neither fully white nor am I male.)

Right, you're not a male, and I just discovered you're not fully white. But still, you're anti-feminist, so hardly you can understand she suffer triple oppression (being non-white, woman, homosexual): she's wrong, but due her situation she cannot be really racist or sexist (recism = prejudice + power, sexism = prejudice + power).
However my congratulations: being "pro-bidets" is absolutely wonderful, I approve

She's a racist bitch, end of.

[Frasers]

You've somehow completely missed my point, but that's fine.

I'm sure that Her Majesty wouldn't at all appreciate the comments made by this lunatic, especially if her place of employment and position are taken into account.

the country doesn't belong to white men. Bahar Mustafa was born here, so you can't even use the argument of white men "letting her in".

[Frasers]

Greece, like Turkey, is on the Mediterranean. The Queen, whose country it is, is obviously a something fan of people from that part of the world, as she's fucking one of them.

might want to type it in bigger font mate just so you make sure the point comes across this time

[Vassenor]

(recism = prejudice + power, sexism = prejudice + power)

Show me a dictionary that actually says that. Just because a few tumblrinas made it up to whitewash themselves does not make it true.

Discriminating against anyone based on their nationality, the colour of their skin or their gender identity is wrong. It does not matter if that factor matches up with what is dominant in society.

[Frasers]

Also, I wrote the same for males, even highlighting that males do not share at all women's experience (that means that I think they are - generally, on average - worse allies than transexuals).

when you say transsexual, do you mean transgender? they're not actually the same thing?

are you also arguing that males can't be trans?

am i actually asking you these questions and expecting a logical and coherent answer?

[Napkiraly]

Also, I wrote the same for males, even highlighting that males do not share at all women's experience (that means that I think they are - generally, on average - worse allies than transexuals).

when you say transsexual, do you mean transgender? they're not actually the same thing?

are you also arguing that males can't be trans?

am i actually asking you these questions and expecting a logical and coherent answer?

I think she's arguing that trans people cannot be feminists (especially male to female) because TERF's are transphobic radicals. I mean Chess has completely ignored DI's argument only to rehash the "racism = power + prejudice" which is nothing but bollocks.