NATION

PASSWORD

Saudi Arabia Wants to Head the UN Human Rights Council

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
User avatar
Shofercia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 31342
Founded: Feb 22, 2008
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Saudi Arabia Wants to Head the UN Human Rights Council

Postby Shofercia » Sat May 23, 2015 6:43 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 67783.html

Saudi Arabia is reportedly planning to make a bid to head the United Nations' Human Rights Council, in a move that has been described as the "final nail in the coffin for the credibility" of the HRC. Reports of the bid come just days after Saudi Arabia posted a job advertisement for eight new executioners. This year it has already put 85 people to death in what has been branded by Amnesty International a "macabre spike" from the 87 people it killed in total last year. The country will move to assume lead control over the HRC after 2016 when the presidency is awarded to a new nation.


Yes, I checked, it wasn't posted on April 1st. So, what does NSG think of Saudi Arabia as the head of the UNHRC?

I, for one, think that it'll be hilarious, and I'm already planning a series of comedies including:

1. Yes UNHRC, women can be in the driver's seat!
2. All men are created equal! And women aren't men!
3. Once upon a time in bar that serves only virgin alcohol...
4. Iran bad. Iran very, very, very bad. UNHRC says so, and that Saudis are a head is a mere coincidence! Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, in the name of Human Rights.

Which one would you like to see?

On a more serious note, UNHRC needs to be someone like New Zealand. Or Switzerland. Someone who actually has some credibility on the issue. Although if corporations are humans, I'm wary of Switzerland's role; they might have an anti-organic bias.
Come, learn about Russian Culture! Bring Vodka and Ushanka. Interested in Slavic Culture? Fill this out.
Stonk Power! (North) Kosovo is (a de facto part of) Serbia and Crimea is (a de facto part of) Russia
I used pronouns until the mods made using wrong pronouns warnable, so I use names instead; if you see malice there, that's entirely on you, and if pronouns are no longer warnable, I'll go back to using them

User avatar
Republic of the Cristo
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12261
Founded: Apr 16, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Republic of the Cristo » Sat May 23, 2015 6:44 pm

:rofl:

no
Orthodox Christian, Nationalist, Reactionary, Stoic


(2 Kings 2:23-25): you won't be dissappointed

User avatar
Big Brain City
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1205
Founded: Jan 09, 2010
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Big Brain City » Sat May 23, 2015 6:46 pm

The Saudis getting on that council would be a mockery of human rights, the UNHRC and the UN itself.
Someone has to stop them.
THE STATE OF BIG BRAIN CITY
EXITUS ACTA PROBAT

The Big Brain wrote:Freedom? People are fools and unworthy of much freedom. Even I am a fool. Many people have recognized that and want me to suffer for it.
Unfortunately for them, I can glass their planets.

User avatar
Dooom35796821595
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9309
Founded: Sep 11, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sat May 23, 2015 6:47 pm

Big Brain City wrote:The Saudis getting on that council would be a mockery of human rights, the UNHRC and the UN itself.
Someone has to stop them.


Looks like a job for team America: world police! :lol:
When life gives you lemons, you BURN THEIR HOUSE DOWN!
Anything can be justified if it is cool. If at first you don't succeed, destroy all in your way.
"Your methods are stupid! Your progress has been stupid! Your intelligence is stupid! For the sake of the mission, you must be terminated!”

User avatar
Big Brain City
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1205
Founded: Jan 09, 2010
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Big Brain City » Sat May 23, 2015 6:50 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Big Brain City wrote:The Saudis getting on that council would be a mockery of human rights, the UNHRC and the UN itself.
Someone has to stop them.


Looks like a job for team America: world police! :lol:

Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia is on Team America.
Guess we'll have to call in Team...some other country.
THE STATE OF BIG BRAIN CITY
EXITUS ACTA PROBAT

The Big Brain wrote:Freedom? People are fools and unworthy of much freedom. Even I am a fool. Many people have recognized that and want me to suffer for it.
Unfortunately for them, I can glass their planets.

User avatar
Autem Galacticus Nexum
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 483
Founded: Apr 20, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Autem Galacticus Nexum » Sat May 23, 2015 6:52 pm

There is a probability that if SA heads the human rights council, they'll actually change their ways.

probability
Last edited by Autem Galacticus Nexum on Sat May 23, 2015 6:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A U T E M G A L A C T I C U S N E X U M

User avatar
Dooom35796821595
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9309
Founded: Sep 11, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sat May 23, 2015 6:54 pm

Big Brain City wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Looks like a job for team America: world police! :lol:

Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia is on Team America.
Guess we'll have to call in Team...some other country.


Team Iran: Middle East police?
When life gives you lemons, you BURN THEIR HOUSE DOWN!
Anything can be justified if it is cool. If at first you don't succeed, destroy all in your way.
"Your methods are stupid! Your progress has been stupid! Your intelligence is stupid! For the sake of the mission, you must be terminated!”

User avatar
Luziyca
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38285
Founded: Nov 13, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Sat May 23, 2015 6:54 pm

Didn't they make a new one to stop this from happening?
|||The Kingdom of Rwizikuru|||
Your feeble attempts to change the very nature of how time itself has been organized by mankind shall fall on barren ground and bear no fruit
WikiFacebookKylaris: the best region for eight years runningAbout meYouTubePolitical compass

User avatar
Empire of Narnia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5577
Founded: Oct 18, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Empire of Narnia » Sat May 23, 2015 6:54 pm

Good for them. They deserve it.

User avatar
Petrokovia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7698
Founded: Jul 07, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Petrokovia » Sat May 23, 2015 6:55 pm

Oh, man. I hope not. If this happens, the UN will lose my respect.
Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

User avatar
Giovenith
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 21421
Founded: Feb 08, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Giovenith » Sat May 23, 2015 6:57 pm

Yeah no.
⟡ and in time, and in time, we will all be stars ⟡
she/her

User avatar
Ganos Lao
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13904
Founded: Feb 26, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Ganos Lao » Sat May 23, 2015 6:57 pm

Big Brain City wrote:The Saudis getting on that council would be a mockery of human rights, the UNHRC and the UN itself.
Someone has to stop them.


In before "What? You don't like non-whites asserting themselves?!" a la the Mugabe thread.



This nation is controlled by the player who was once Neo-Ixania on the Jolt Forums! It is also undergoing reconstruction.

User avatar
Big Brain City
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1205
Founded: Jan 09, 2010
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Big Brain City » Sat May 23, 2015 6:58 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Big Brain City wrote:Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia is on Team America.
Guess we'll have to call in Team...some other country.


Team Iran: Middle East police?

Maybe...maybe...
Image
Ganos Lao wrote:
Big Brain City wrote:The Saudis getting on that council would be a mockery of human rights, the UNHRC and the UN itself.
Someone has to stop them.


In before "What? You don't like non-whites asserting themselves?!" a la the Mugabe thread.

Watdafuq? Who would say such shit? Are they idiots who just mindlessly defend someone they perceive as the underdog without realizing that said "underdog" is in fact quite the opposite?
THE STATE OF BIG BRAIN CITY
EXITUS ACTA PROBAT

The Big Brain wrote:Freedom? People are fools and unworthy of much freedom. Even I am a fool. Many people have recognized that and want me to suffer for it.
Unfortunately for them, I can glass their planets.

User avatar
Neo Telangana
Envoy
 
Posts: 275
Founded: May 08, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Neo Telangana » Sat May 23, 2015 6:58 pm

Petrokovia wrote:Oh, man. I hope not. If this happens, the UN will lose my respect.


People still have respect for the UN?
My nation reflects my actual political views, and it has absolutely nothing to do with steampunk.

Pro: Secularism, Atheism, Socialism, Progressivism, Rationalism, Separation of Powers, Industrialization, Nationalism, Gender/Racial/Sexual Equality

Con: Theocracy, Religion, Laissez-faire Capitalism, Traditionalism, Dogma, Autocracy, Pre-Modern Romanticism, Multiculturalism, Gender/Racial/Sexual Discrimination

I use red to indicate what I LIKE, and green to indicate what I DON'T LIKE. Screw your traditional color roles.

User avatar
Petrokovia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7698
Founded: Jul 07, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Petrokovia » Sat May 23, 2015 6:59 pm

Neo Telangana wrote:
Petrokovia wrote:Oh, man. I hope not. If this happens, the UN will lose my respect.


People still have respect for the UN?

Good point.
Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

User avatar
Big Brain City
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1205
Founded: Jan 09, 2010
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Big Brain City » Sat May 23, 2015 6:59 pm

Neo Telangana wrote:
Petrokovia wrote:Oh, man. I hope not. If this happens, the UN will lose my respect.


People still have respect for the UN?

I don't have much, as it's a feckless organization and I'm pretty sure you're about to tell me that North Korea is responsible for the peacekeeping commission or something.
THE STATE OF BIG BRAIN CITY
EXITUS ACTA PROBAT

The Big Brain wrote:Freedom? People are fools and unworthy of much freedom. Even I am a fool. Many people have recognized that and want me to suffer for it.
Unfortunately for them, I can glass their planets.

User avatar
Rio Cana
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10825
Founded: Dec 21, 2005
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Rio Cana » Sat May 23, 2015 7:00 pm

You got to be kidding. :o
National Information
Empire of Rio Cana has been refounded.
We went from Empire to Peoples Republic to two divided Republics one called Marina to back to an Empire. And now a Republic under a military General. Our Popular Music
Our National Love SongOur Military Forces
Formerly appointed twice Minister of Defense and once Minister of Foreign Affairs for South America Region.

User avatar
Glorious KASSRD
Diplomat
 
Posts: 763
Founded: Dec 18, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Glorious KASSRD » Sat May 23, 2015 7:03 pm

This makes no sense. Like, at all.

User avatar
Ganos Lao
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13904
Founded: Feb 26, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Ganos Lao » Sat May 23, 2015 7:04 pm

Big Brain City wrote:Watdafuq? Who would say such shit? Are they idiots who just mindlessly defend someone they perceive as the underdog without realizing that said "underdog" is in fact quite the opposite?


They feel Mugabe is standing up against the 'imperialism of the West', etc.

It's that old "we don't care that he kills his own people; we just care he uses rhetoric we like that he doesn't really care for" chestnut again.

Hell, we had ISIS sympathizers, even one who said he was a member on his sig, posting on the ISIS megathread.

We also had two DPRK supporters....

I honestly think it's people just wanting to seem hip and cool. I mean, bashing the West/America is hip and cool, right? And no, I'm not saying either is perfect, but come on now....
Last edited by Ganos Lao on Sat May 23, 2015 7:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.



This nation is controlled by the player who was once Neo-Ixania on the Jolt Forums! It is also undergoing reconstruction.

User avatar
Aalmark
Envoy
 
Posts: 347
Founded: May 18, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Aalmark » Sat May 23, 2015 7:06 pm

Haha, that's like the Catholic Church heading a group to prevent child molestation.
Aalmark's Wikipedia | Obnoxious and Stereotypical NSG Sigs[Expanded] | Interested in MT, RP regions? Why not Tiandi? |The Dude who Runs Aalmark

Pro: Libertarian-Conservatism, National Liberalism, LGB Rights, Free Markets, Nederland, NATO, Soft Euroscepticism, EU Reform.
Anti: Socialism, Leftism, Islamism, Scots Independence, Aboriginal Special Rights, Theocracies, Special Snowflakes, Furries, Palestine, Russia.

Political Compass Thang: Economic Right: 6.56, Social Authoritarian: 1.28

User avatar
Bering
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12712
Founded: Aug 25, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bering » Sat May 23, 2015 7:09 pm

Sigh, Saudi Arabia, no, just no.
Shouldn't there be a rule that you can only be violating so many human rights to be on the council? (I would say none, but I am worried about how many nations would actually qualify to serve to begin with considering most countries have their own little issues here and there with it).

User avatar
Petrokovia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7698
Founded: Jul 07, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Petrokovia » Sat May 23, 2015 7:09 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Big Brain City wrote:Watdafuq? Who would say such shit? Are they idiots who just mindlessly defend someone they perceive as the underdog without realizing that said "underdog" is in fact quite the opposite?


They feel Mugabe is standing up against the imperialism of the West, etc.

It's that old "we don't care that he kills his own people; we just care he uses rhetoric we like that he doesn't really care for" chestnut again.

Hell, we had ISIS sympathizers, even one who said he was a member on his sig, posting on the ISIS megathread.

We also had two DPRK supporters....

I honestly think it's people just wanting to seem hip and cool. I mean, bashing the West/America is hip and cool, right? And no, I'm not saying either is perfect, but come on now....

If bashing the West is hip and cool, I must be a megahipster, 'cause I hate hte entire world! Everyone sucks!

Humor aside, I agree it seems that a lot of people tend to just follow someone they like, and try to handwave bad things they do. And that really sucks, because a lot of times, it's really bad things that should be discussed, and people continue to say "nope IDK."
Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

User avatar
Aalmark
Envoy
 
Posts: 347
Founded: May 18, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Aalmark » Sat May 23, 2015 7:09 pm

Petrokovia wrote:Oh, man. I hope not. If this happens, the UN will lose my respect.


The UN, while seemingly a good idea, has no respect from me. They've shown a complete lack of competence and care for human rights abuses in the most volatile of places, yet jump on Canada for "first nation issues" or Israel for "teh apartheid." Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous. The organization is incapable of doing anything other than hopping on the politically correct bandwagon every now and then while shouting at groups "fuck yourself, haha!"
Aalmark's Wikipedia | Obnoxious and Stereotypical NSG Sigs[Expanded] | Interested in MT, RP regions? Why not Tiandi? |The Dude who Runs Aalmark

Pro: Libertarian-Conservatism, National Liberalism, LGB Rights, Free Markets, Nederland, NATO, Soft Euroscepticism, EU Reform.
Anti: Socialism, Leftism, Islamism, Scots Independence, Aboriginal Special Rights, Theocracies, Special Snowflakes, Furries, Palestine, Russia.

Political Compass Thang: Economic Right: 6.56, Social Authoritarian: 1.28

User avatar
Petrokovia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7698
Founded: Jul 07, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Petrokovia » Sat May 23, 2015 7:12 pm

Bering wrote:Sigh, Saudi Arabia, no, just no.
Shouldn't there be a rule that you can only be violating so many human rights to be on the council? (I would say none, but I am worried about how many nations would actually qualify to serve to begin with considering most countries have their own little issues here and there with it).

The more I think about it, the more I agree that most nations might not fit the 'none' bill. Though I would still have a high standard. I'm kind of a fan of Scandinavia, myself.
Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

User avatar
Petrokovia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7698
Founded: Jul 07, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Petrokovia » Sat May 23, 2015 7:14 pm

Aalmark wrote:
Petrokovia wrote:Oh, man. I hope not. If this happens, the UN will lose my respect.


The UN, while seemingly a good idea, has no respect from me. They've shown a complete lack of competence and care for human rights abuses in the most volatile of places, yet jump on Canada for "first nation issues" or Israel for "teh apartheid." Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous. The organization is incapable of doing anything other than hopping on the politically correct bandwagon every now and then while shouting at groups "fuck yourself, haha!"

Well, I dislike the actual UN, but I have always like the idea. Though yes, in practice, the UN acts nothing like its supposed to.

When I say lose my respect, I mean lose the 1.2 of gram of respect I have left for them.
Last edited by Petrokovia on Sat May 23, 2015 7:15 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Communist from Philly living with multiplicity; We literally are Petrokovia. We are very spiritual adherents to our religion.
Pro: AES, Juche, communism, armed revolution, God (Mikotorma), reappropriating monarchical terms for socialist things (what's in a name?), the ethereal spaceship polycule sent by Allah to guide us, freedom of expression and religion
Anti: Fascism, absolute monarchy, capitalism, imperialism, Demiurge/Saklas, bigotry of any kind
Note: I do not use NS Stats, NS Tracker, etc. I only use my own factbooks and written information; The main canon used is the Democratic Socialist Vesperist Realms of Petrokovia (DSVRP)
من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

*Communist and Proud!*

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: American Legionaries, Bovad, Cyptopir, Dumb Ideologies, Ebrein, Glorious Freedonia, Ineva, Keltionialang, Kreushia, Ors Might, Plan Neonie, Soviet Haaregrad, Stellar Colonies, The Black Forrest, The Holy Therns, The Vooperian Union, Theodorable, Tungstan

Advertisement

Remove ads