Bernie Sanders 2016!

[Prussia-Steinbach]

You're late.

Bloody hell. My point still stands, I guess. I have reason to suspect that a large chunk of those socialists know little about the ideology, and just want more environmentalism, more welfare, less war, etc. They're everywhere in Seattle. They claim to be socialist, or even marxist, but vote Democratic, think Starbucks is a model corporation, etc etc.

Of course. It drives me crazy. I'd still prefer them to Republicans.

[Llamalandia]

Ok. But misinformation is a huge part of the political process. I mean like it or not, but rush limbaugh or donald trump claiming for instance that obama wasn't born in the USA doesn't make it true, but it makes enough people believe it to have an impact on voters. In the Obama example not enough to change the outcome, but socialism is viewed so negatively here that it pretty much gurantees Sanders will never be elected president.

Already fucking demonstrated McCarthyism isn't our national ideology anymore Llamalandia.

Really? not sure what that is even supposed to mean exactly, but whatever. Neither communism not socialism nor social democracy has much hope of gaining significant electoral sucess in this country despite a few populist reactions against the tea party.

[Llamalandia]

You're late.

Bloody hell. My point still stands, I guess. I have reason to suspect that a large chunk of those socialists know little about the ideology, and just want more environmentalism, more welfare, less war, etc. They're everywhere in Seattle. They claim to be socialist, or even marxist, but vote Democratic, think Starbucks is a model corporation, etc etc.

Lol, after #Race Together, I think even latte liberals find starbucks to be full of shit.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Already fucking demonstrated McCarthyism isn't our national ideology anymore Llamalandia.

Really? not sure what that is even supposed to mean exactly, but whatever. Neither communism not socialism nor social democracy has much hope of gaining significant electoral sucess in this country despite a few populist reactions against the tea party.

I can't wait for a decade or so - maybe less - in the future, when we have universal healthcare and other ebul commie policies. I'm going to be so happy.

[Aalmark]

Bloody hell. My point still stands, I guess. I have reason to suspect that a large chunk of those socialists know little about the ideology, and just want more environmentalism, more welfare, less war, etc. They're everywhere in Seattle. They claim to be socialist, or even marxist, but vote Democratic, think Starbucks is a model corporation, etc etc.

Lol, after #Race Together, I think even latte liberals find starbucks to be full of shit.

Lord knows I can't "race together", I'm a fat ass.

[Jagellion]

I like Bernie sanders, but I don't think he will win since he is independent. Anyway there is a new guy mike o'malley. He is a democrat from Maryland

[Romalae]

I like Bernie sanders, but I don't think he will win since he is independent.

He's running as a Democrat.

[Llamalandia]

Really? not sure what that is even supposed to mean exactly, but whatever. Neither communism not socialism nor social democracy has much hope of gaining significant electoral sucess in this country despite a few populist reactions against the tea party.

I can't wait for a decade or so - maybe less - in the future, when we have universal healthcare and other ebul commie policies. I'm going to be so happy.

Lol keep dreaming. Besides, when that day comes, there are plenty of second amendment gun notes ready to kick off a revolution. I'm half serious. fortunately america always has and always will hate commies.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I can't wait for a decade or so - maybe less - in the future, when we have universal healthcare and other ebul commie policies. I'm going to be so happy.

Lol keep dreaming. Besides, when that day comes, there are plenty of second amendment gun notes ready to kick off a revolution. I'm half serious. fortunately america always has and always will hate commies.

You're saying Americans will revolt because everyone gets healthcare and I'm the one dreaming. K bud.

People said the same thing about gay marriage and blacks voting. Get on the right side of history. Conservatives live in the past and they're dying out, thank Satan.

[Atlanticatia]

Bloody hell. My point still stands, I guess. I have reason to suspect that a large chunk of those socialists know little about the ideology, and just want more environmentalism, more welfare, less war, etc. They're everywhere in Seattle. They claim to be socialist, or even marxist, but vote Democratic, think Starbucks is a model corporation, etc etc.

Lol, after #Race Together, I think even latte liberals find starbucks to be full of shit.

Am I a 'latte liberal' if I am on the political centre-left and drink starbucks?

[Romalae]

Lol, after #Race Together, I think even latte liberals find starbucks to be full of shit.

Am I a 'latte liberal' if I am on the political centre-left and drink starbucks?

Absolutely, that enables you to be lumped in with the stereotype.

[Glorious KASSRD]

I can't wait for a decade or so - maybe less - in the future, when we have universal healthcare and other ebul commie policies. I'm going to be so happy.

Lol keep dreaming. Besides, when that day comes, there are plenty of second amendment gun notes ready to kick off a revolution. I'm half serious. fortunately america always has and always will hate commies.

No. Just no. America will not have another civil war. The authoritarian conservative is dying out in the US. Libertarians and Liberals are the overwhelming majority amongst the young.

[Llamalandia]

Lol keep dreaming. Besides, when that day comes, there are plenty of second amendment gun notes ready to kick off a revolution. I'm half serious. fortunately america always has and always will hate commies.

No. Just no. America will not have another civil war. The authoritarian conservative is dying out in the US. Libertarians and Liberals are the overwhelming majority amongst the young.

Well, the libertarians will be among the ones doing the fighting. Hell we taxation and we generally love guns. Plus, the young have always been more liberal than the older generations. but they change with time. What is that saying, if youre conservative when you are under thirty you have no heart and if youre liberal when youre over thirty you have no brain. Something like that.

[Llamalandia]

Lol keep dreaming. Besides, when that day comes, there are plenty of second amendment gun notes ready to kick off a revolution. I'm half serious. fortunately america always has and always will hate commies.

You're saying Americans will revolt because everyone gets healthcare and I'm the one dreaming. K bud.

People said the same thing about gay marriage and blacks voting. Get on the right side of history. Conservatives live in the past and they're dying out, thank Satan.

When you take money from some people and redistrubute it to others to pay for that healthcare then yeah. Plus, I was more referring to other ebul communist and communistic like pollicies, like a guranteed basic income or some such nonsense.

[Llamalandia]

Lol, after #Race Together, I think even latte liberals find starbucks to be full of shit.

Am I a 'latte liberal' if I am on the political centre-left and drink starbucks?

I think so,. You have to be far left and only brew your own organic fair trade coffee to be a real liberal.

[Arlenton]

I wonder if the GOP will help fund Bernie, sorta like the Nader thing in 2000.

[Llamalandia]

I wonder if the GOP will help fund Bernie, sorta like the Nader thing in 2000.

I've almost thought of registering as a dem just to vote in the primary, oh, but alas, I doubt anyone can beat the Hillary machine in the primary and likely not in the general either.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

You're saying Americans will revolt because everyone gets healthcare and I'm the one dreaming. K bud.

People said the same thing about gay marriage and blacks voting. Get on the right side of history. Conservatives live in the past and they're dying out, thank Satan.

When you take money from some people and redistrubute it to others to pay for that healthcare then yeah. Plus, I was more referring to other ebul communist and communistic like pollicies, like a guranteed basic income or some such nonsense.

Man, the future is going to be terrible, everyone having the right to life and other such commie bullshit.

[Llamalandia]

When you take money from some people and redistrubute it to others to pay for that healthcare then yeah. Plus, I was more referring to other ebul communist and communistic like pollicies, like a guranteed basic income or some such nonsense.

Man, the future is going to be terrible, everyone having the right to life and other such commie bullshit.

Right to life is great. Right to steal or "tax" people to maintain that life, not so much. I agree to not kill you or take your stuff if you agree not to kill me or take my stuff or have the big bad govt do it for you.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Man, the future is going to be terrible, everyone having the right to life and other such commie bullshit.

Right to life is great. Right to steal or "tax" people to maintain that life, not so much. I agree to not kill you or take your stuff if you agree not to kill me or take my stuff or have the big bad govt do it for you.

I'm pretty sure I could destroy you in a debate on the merits of the merits of the capitalist system but this isn't the place.

Ayn Rand has been discredited as a philosopher and theorist, by the way.

[Romalae]

Plus, the young have always been more liberal than the older generations. but they change with time. What is that saying, if youre conservative when you are under thirty you have no heart and if youre liberal when youre over thirty you have no brain. Something like that.

I believe it was Winston Churchill who said that.

But no, actually, research has shown that this is a myth:

Prevailing stereotypes of older people hold that their attitudes are inflexible or that aging tends to promote increasing conservatism in sociopolitical outlook. In spite of mounting scientific evidence demonstrating that learning, adaptation, and reassessment are behaviors in which older people can and do engage, the stereotype persists. We use U.S. General Social Survey data from 25 surveys between 1972 and 2004 to formally assess the magnitude and direction of changes in attitudes that occur within cohorts at different stages of the life course. We decompose changes in sociopolitical attitudes into the proportions attributable to cohort succession and intracohort aging for three categories of items: attitudes toward historically subordinate groups, civil liberties, and privacy. We find that significant intracohort change in attitudes occurs in cohorts-in-later- stages (age 60 and older) as well as cohorts-in-earlier-stages (ages 18 to 39), that the change for cohorts-in-later-stages is frequently greater than that for cohorts-in-earlier-stages, and that the direction of change is most often toward increased tolerance rather than increased conservatism. These findings are discussed within the context of population aging and development.

[Arlenton]

I wonder if the GOP will help fund Bernie, sorta like the Nader thing in 2000.

I've almost thought of registering as a dem just to vote in the primary, oh, but alas, I doubt anyone can beat the Hillary machine in the primary and likely not in the general either.

You're probably right, but then there's always the midterms. Clinton is likely to be only Democrat to not preside over a Democrat majority in the House, since Andrew Johnson.

[Atlanticatia]

Man, the future is going to be terrible, everyone having the right to life and other such commie bullshit.

Right to life is great. Right to steal or "tax" people to maintain that life, not so much. I agree to not kill you or take your stuff if you agree not to kill me or take my stuff or have the big bad govt do it for you.

I think ensuring people can put food on the table, have a good job, and be able to go to the doctor is way more important than someone keeping all the money they quote-on-quote 'earn'.

[Llamalandia]

I've almost thought of registering as a dem just to vote in the primary, oh, but alas, I doubt anyone can beat the Hillary machine in the primary and likely not in the general either.

You're probably right, but then there's always the midterms. Clinton is likely to be only Democrat to not preside over a Democrat majority in the House, since Andrew Johnson.

Umm, obama is already doing that and has been for a while now. but yeah, the republicans aren't going to let anything get done, hurray, I guess. Eh, really better when govt does nothing at all, they generally just make things worse in my opinion.

[Llamalandia]

Right to life is great. Right to steal or "tax" people to maintain that life, not so much. I agree to not kill you or take your stuff if you agree not to kill me or take my stuff or have the big bad govt do it for you.

I think ensuring people can put food on the table, have a good job, and be able to go to the doctor is way more important than someone keeping all the money they quote-on-quote 'earn'.

I don't. That said, plenty of people are and should be charitable. Just because I don't like the govt helping the poor doesn't mean I don't think the poor ought to be helped.