Bernie Sanders 2016!

[Ashworth-Attwater]

Sanders is a joke.

[Atlanticatia]

Any thoughts on Martin O'Malley's announcement? I think he is trying to position himself as the electable left-of-Hillary candidate.

[Llamalandia]

Any thoughts on Martin O'Malley's announcement? I think he is trying to position himself as the electable left-of-Hillary candidate.

Meh, non player really. I doubt he will even be able to beat sanders to be honest. Might be trying for the VP slot but he knows he can't win the nod..or he is totally insane.

[Geilinor]

Any thoughts on Martin O'Malley's announcement? I think he is trying to position himself as the electable left-of-Hillary candidate.

I like him, but unfortunately it seems to be a little too late.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

Any thoughts on Martin O'Malley's announcement? I think he is trying to position himself as the electable left-of-Hillary candidate.

He's got even less support than Sanders.

[Libreng]

Any thoughts on Martin O'Malley's announcement? I think he is trying to position himself as the electable left-of-Hillary candidate.

O'Malley is an interesting guy. I'm not sure he will be able to amass support against Clinton though.

[Glorious KASSRD]

Any thoughts on Martin O'Malley's announcement? I think he is trying to position himself as the electable left-of-Hillary candidate.

O'Malley is an interesting guy. I'm not sure he will be able to amass support against Clinton though.

Why is everyone saying Clinton is going to win for sure? I've yet to see a single person on this site, real life, YouTube, or anywhere else support her, so how is she doing well?

[Romalae]

O'Malley is an interesting guy. I'm not sure he will be able to amass support against Clinton though.

Why is everyone saying Clinton is going to win for sure? I've yet to see a single person on this site, real life, YouTube, or anywhere else support her, so how is she doing well?

I always wondered this as well. Silent majority, I guess?

[Libreng]

O'Malley is an interesting guy. I'm not sure he will be able to amass support against Clinton though.

Why is everyone saying Clinton is going to win for sure? I've yet to see a single person on this site, real life, YouTube, or anywhere else support her, so how is she doing well?

Polls by Gallup, Rasmussen, CNN, Fox, USA Today, and others all show Clinton as the clear frontrunner for the race.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Elizabeth Warren is electable and the rank-and-file like her.

If she runs and somehow gets the nomination, she'll get destroyed by us Republicans. I've yet to see a poll of her stacked up against a GOP candidate that she wins.

Funny, since even Bernie Sanders has more support than every Republican candidate.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

O'Malley is an interesting guy. I'm not sure he will be able to amass support against Clinton though.

Why is everyone saying Clinton is going to win for sure? I've yet to see a single person on this site, real life, YouTube, or anywhere else support her, so how is she doing well?

I find that hard to believe, since I've been seeing Clinton supporters everywhere, IRL and on here. Every poll puts her at the front, and when you compare her to dark horse Bernie and the nutjob Republicans it isn't even a question anymore. Clinton's going to be the next president.

[Libreng]

If she runs and somehow gets the nomination, she'll get destroyed by us Republicans. I've yet to see a poll of her stacked up against a GOP candidate that she wins.

Funny, since even Bernie Sanders has more support than every Republican candidate.

I'm not doubting your claim or anything, but find a better source.

[Llamalandia]

If she runs and somehow gets the nomination, she'll get destroyed by us Republicans. I've yet to see a poll of her stacked up against a GOP candidate that she wins.

Funny, since even Bernie Sanders has more support than every Republican candidate.

Yeah, because there are far fewer dem canidates running. If there were more people in the dem field then yeah, I'd agree a 15% showing would be impressive. But there's like 8 Republicans officially I believe and even more who are all but saying they want to run. It is an apples and oranges comparison here. These are primary pol results not general election polls.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Funny, since even Bernie Sanders has more support than every Republican candidate.

I'm not doubting your claim or anything, but find a better source.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-even ... aseID=2228

[Glorious KASSRD]

Why is everyone saying Clinton is going to win for sure? I've yet to see a single person on this site, real life, YouTube, or anywhere else support her, so how is she doing well?

I find that hard to believe, since I've been seeing Clinton supporters everywhere, IRL and on here. Every poll puts her at the front, and when you compare her to dark horse Bernie and the nutjob Republicans it isn't even a question anymore. Clinton's going to be the next president.

Where, if I may ask? I've seen people say she's going to win, or that she's better than the Republicans, but no one who's really supported her. Sure, I have checked polls, but no one I have talked too or seen on this site.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Funny, since even Bernie Sanders has more support than every Republican candidate.

Yeah, because there are far fewer dem canidates running. If there were more people in the dem field then yeah, I'd agree a 15% showing would be impressive. But there's like 8 Republicans officially I believe and even more who are all but saying they want to run. It is an apples and oranges comparison here. These are primary pol results not general election polls.

Yet somehow I still doubt something like a Cruz-Warren race would result in a Republican landslide victory.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I find that hard to believe, since I've been seeing Clinton supporters everywhere, IRL and on here. Every poll puts her at the front, and when you compare her to dark horse Bernie and the nutjob Republicans it isn't even a question anymore. Clinton's going to be the next president.

Where, if I may ask? I've seen people say she's going to win, or that she's better than the Republicans, but no one who's really supported her.

I'm not going to scower the forums searching for a person deliberately saying "I support Clinton over everyone else." But there are plenty of polls out there you can google for yourself.

[Llamalandia]

Yeah, because there are far fewer dem canidates running. If there were more people in the dem field then yeah, I'd agree a 15% showing would be impressive. But there's like 8 Republicans officially I believe and even more who are all but saying they want to run. It is an apples and oranges comparison here. These are primary pol results not general election polls.

Yet somehow I still doubt something like a Cruz-Warren race would result in a Republican landslide victory.

Probably not, though, I imagine, Cruz would still come away with the W, not that I'm a particular Cruz fan mind you. But hell I'll bet even Santorum or or *shudder* fiorina could beat out sanders without even trying.

[Romalae]

So has this thread become the equivalent to the 2016 Republican Primary thread? If so, should the title and OP be changed to reflect that? If not, should another thread be created?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Yet somehow I still doubt something like a Cruz-Warren race would result in a Republican landslide victory.

Probably not, though, I imagine, Cruz would still come away with the W, not that I'm a particular Cruz fan mind you. But hell I'll bet even Santorum or or *shudder* fiorina could beat out sanders without even trying.

No way, those fuckers would burn themselves to the ground to the point where not a single moderate or sane person would vote for them. Bernie'd win by default.

[Llamalandia]

Probably not, though, I imagine, Cruz would still come away with the W, not that I'm a particular Cruz fan mind you. But hell I'll bet even Santorum or or *shudder* fiorina could beat out sanders without even trying.

No way, those fuckers would burn themselves to the ground to the point where not a single moderate or sane person would vote for them. Bernie'd win by default.

Sorry but that sounds somewhat delusional. I mean, America may not like social conservativism but it absolutely reviles socialism at least nominally. Sanders would get owned no matter who he faced. Warren would have a decent shot against either of them, but I don't think eve nshe could win.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

No way, those fuckers would burn themselves to the ground to the point where not a single moderate or sane person would vote for them. Bernie'd win by default.

Sorry but that sounds somewhat delusional. I mean, America may not like social conservativism but it absolutely reviles socialism at least nominally. Sanders would get owned no matter who he faced. Warren would have a decent shot against either of them, but I don't think eve nshe could win.

Bull shit, my friend.

36% of Americans view the word "socialism" positively. When you add in the fact that Bernie isn't actually a socialist, he's a social democrat with views that a lot of Americans, and probably a majority of self-described liberals, plus all progressives, could get behind, it's not hard to believe that he'd win against a woman who ran her company into the fucking ground and flat-out sounds stupid whenever she talks, and a papist who wears sweater vests and whose name means anal sex froth.

[Llamalandia]

Sorry but that sounds somewhat delusional. I mean, America may not like social conservativism but it absolutely reviles socialism at least nominally. Sanders would get owned no matter who he faced. Warren would have a decent shot against either of them, but I don't think eve nshe could win.

Bull shit, my friend.

36% of Americans view the word "socialism" positively. When you add in the fact that Bernie isn't actually a socialist, he's a social democrat with views that a lot of Americans, and probably a majority of self-described liberals, plus all progressives, could get behind, it's not hard to believe that he'd win against a woman who ran her company into the fucking ground and flat-out sounds stupid whenever she talks, and a papist who wears sweater vests and whose name means anal sex froth.

n Vermont, Bernie Sanders to become the country’s first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate. Running as an independent, Sanders won 65% of the vote, easily beating his Republican opponent Rich Tarrant. We speak with Sanders about what it means to the country’s first socialist senator.

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/8/vermonts_bernie_sanders_becomes_first_socialist

He's self identified as a socialist. maybe not by European standards though even there judging by his rhetoric I think many would apply the label.
But yeah, even if that 36% figure is accurate how many of them vote or would vote? Besides you turn off all moderates and centrists which is the key to dem electoral victory.

[Sciongrad]

Bull shit, my friend.

36% of Americans view the word "socialism" positively. When you add in the fact that Bernie isn't actually a socialist, he's a social democrat with views that a lot of Americans, and probably a majority of self-described liberals, plus all progressives, could get behind, it's not hard to believe that he'd win against a woman who ran her company into the fucking ground and flat-out sounds stupid whenever she talks, and a papist who wears sweater vests and whose name means anal sex froth.

n Vermont, Bernie Sanders to become the country’s first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate. Running as an independent, Sanders won 65% of the vote, easily beating his Republican opponent Rich Tarrant. We speak with Sanders about what it means to the country’s first socialist senator.

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/8/vermonts_bernie_sanders_becomes_first_socialist

He's self identified as a socialist. maybe not by European standards though even there judging by his rhetoric I think many would apply the label.
But yeah, even if that 36% figure is accurate how many of them vote or would vote? Besides you turn off all moderates and centrists which is the key to dem electoral victory.

He can call himself whatever he wants. He is demonstrably not a socialist. Even Sanders conflates socialism with social democracy. Anyone aware of the distinction can clearly see that Sanders is a social democrat.

[Llamalandia]

Sorry but that sounds somewhat delusional. I mean, America may not like social conservativism but it absolutely reviles socialism at least nominally. Sanders would get owned no matter who he faced. Warren would have a decent shot against either of them, but I don't think eve nshe could win.

Bull shit, my friend.

36% of Americans view the word "socialism" positively. When you add in the fact that Bernie isn't actually a socialist, he's a social democrat with views that a lot of Americans, and probably a majority of self-described liberals, plus all progressives, could get behind, it's not hard to believe that he'd win against a woman who ran her company into the fucking ground and flat-out sounds stupid whenever she talks, and a papist who wears sweater vests and whose name means anal sex froth.

He might do ok, against fiorina, but I doubt he'd best her. If nothing else she'd play the gender card and cry her eyes out at a debate or something. I'm really no fan of either of these people and absolutely loath Fiorina, but I am at least realistic in my appraisals of their chances. Liz Warrren could likely give both of them a pretty decent fight though.