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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:39 pm
by Ryccia
Naushantiya wrote:Pakistan has always been a source of our everlasting miseries, it is the prime exporter of terrorism throughout the globe and supported movements Islamic separatists and even aided north korea in developing nuclear weapons. Pakistan has attacked India thrice and generally committed genocide towards Hindus and other communities, yet we allow people from these kind of countries inside our border and let them work in our film industry, while at the same time Pakistan has a ban on Indian films, I think it is high time that we ban any actor of Pakistani origin from working in an Indian film and expel all cricketers of Pakistan. These people ban our films and we give them so much leeway. If they ban our films than why should we let their actors work in our movies and work in their third class movie industry. They also eat up revenues from our films, I hate the idea of allowing somebody from Pakistan working in an Indian movie.

So NSG should India ban pakistani actors and films like they have banned our films ?

The same films where we employ their horrible actors


This is discrimination, so, no. Not all pakistanis are against you. This will only make you more like Pakistan because:

1. This is discrimination, and this will be a similarity that you will have.
2. You are doing the same thing to them for revenge.

And also, India is a secular country, right?

Furthermore...

Give Kashmir to Pakistan. Im not a Pakistani, but I believe that Kashmir is the source of all your conflict, and the Kashmiri people want to unite with Pakistan. So, if you want your hostilities to cease, give Kashmir to Pakistan. Is the right thing to do.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:40 pm
by Amuaplye
Naushantiya wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:Explain why and your source for all of these facts.


Isn't Mr jinnah being obvious

Presidential address by Muhammad Ali Jinnah to the Muslim League

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/prit ... _1940.html

Who is this "Mr. Jinnah"?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:41 pm
by Nelson R Mandela
Naushantiya wrote:Pakistan has always been a source of our everlasting miseries, it is the prime exporter of terrorism throughout the globe and supported movements Islamic separatists and even aided north korea in developing nuclear weapons. Pakistan has attacked India thrice and generally committed genocide towards Hindus and other communities, yet we allow people from these kind of countries inside our border and let them work in our film industry, while at the same time Pakistan has a ban on Indian films, I think it is high time that we ban any actor of Pakistani origin from working in an Indian film and expel all cricketers of Pakistan. These people ban our films and we give them so much leeway. If they ban our films than why should we let their actors work in our movies and work in their third class movie industry. They also eat up revenues from our films, I hate the idea of allowing somebody from Pakistan working in an Indian movie.

So NSG should India ban pakistani actors and films like they have banned our films ?

The same films where we employ their horrible actors

Even though India is culturally a rival with Pakistan, I see no reason movies in either nation should be banned. Banning the movies from either side would only add more gas to the flame that you happen to claim existing.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:41 pm
by Salus Maior
The Huskar Social Union wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Bollywood isn't that good either.

Yeah the Bollywood films ive seen have been pretty shit.

Or just flat out random as fuck... which im still trying to decide is good or bad.

Anyway no India should not ban them.


It's probably due to cultural differences. For instance, Japanese films and humor I find to be the weirdest shit out there...But, apparently, there's people who like it.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:41 pm
by Naushantiya
Ryccia wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:Pakistan has always been a source of our everlasting miseries, it is the prime exporter of terrorism throughout the globe and supported movements Islamic separatists and even aided north korea in developing nuclear weapons. Pakistan has attacked India thrice and generally committed genocide towards Hindus and other communities, yet we allow people from these kind of countries inside our border and let them work in our film industry, while at the same time Pakistan has a ban on Indian films, I think it is high time that we ban any actor of Pakistani origin from working in an Indian film and expel all cricketers of Pakistan. These people ban our films and we give them so much leeway. If they ban our films than why should we let their actors work in our movies and work in their third class movie industry. They also eat up revenues from our films, I hate the idea of allowing somebody from Pakistan working in an Indian movie.

So NSG should India ban pakistani actors and films like they have banned our films ?

The same films where we employ their horrible actors


This is discrimination, so, no. Not all pakistanis are against you. This will only make you more like Pakistan because:

1. This is discrimination, and this will be a similarity that you will have.
2. You are doing the same thing to them for revenge.

And also, India is a secular country, right?

Furthermore...

Give Kashmir to Pakistan. Im not a Pakistani, but I believe that Kashmir is the source of all your conflict, and the Kashmiri people want to unite with Pakistan. So, if you want your hostilities to cease, give Kashmir to Pakistan. Is the right thing to do.



Bullshit only 2% of Kashmiris want to join Pakistan

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 982710.cms

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:43 pm
by Sungai Pusat
Naushantiya wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:...yes, because banning films from another country is certainly the best way of dealing with such a conflict. Clearly.


It would send them a message that they are not welcome here

Certainly, it would. I mean, just considering the hundreds of films that could potentially flood into Pakistan every year, I'd say that the same could happen in reverse and if they banned Pakistani films, it would have just as big of an effect.

Oh wait. The government doesn't give a shit and they're coming out of a ghetto of filming. And one of those films that was realised was realised to critical acclaim... with a nomination for an Oscar.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:43 pm
by Salus Maior
Ryccia wrote:

And also, India is a secular country, right?


From what I've heard, no. The government seems to have a heavy Hindu bias. Of course, considering I'm rather uneducated about India, I'm probably wrong.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:44 pm
by Naushantiya
Amuaplye wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:
Isn't Mr jinnah being obvious

Presidential address by Muhammad Ali Jinnah to the Muslim League

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/prit ... _1940.html

Who is this "Mr. Jinnah"?


I am sorry but this is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard, please google jinnah, this is extremely ignorant of you

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:45 pm
by Arana
Naushantiya wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:Who is this "Mr. Jinnah"?


I am sorry but this is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard, please google jinnah, this is extremely ignorant of you

Yeah, how dare you not immediately recognize the names of Pakistani politicians from the 1940s?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:46 pm
by Naushantiya
Salus Maior wrote:
Ryccia wrote:

And also, India is a secular country, right?


From what I've heard, no. The government seems to have a heavy Hindu bias. Of course, considering I'm rather uneducated about India, I'm probably wrong.


The constitution prohibits the BJP from making this into a hindu state, anything like that would be reversed, anways our hopes for a hindu country died 1100 years, it's just a miracle we survived thousand years of servitude and shame

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:46 pm
by Nelson R Mandela
Ryccia wrote:And also, India is a secular country, right?

India is most certainly not secular.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:47 pm
by MERIZoC
Because….reasons.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:48 pm
by Salus Maior
Nelson R Mandela wrote:
Ryccia wrote:And also, India is a secular country, right?

India is most certainly not secular.


Erm, just because a large number of the population practices a religion, does not mean that the government is not secular.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:48 pm
by Naushantiya
Nelson R Mandela wrote:
Ryccia wrote:And also, India is a secular country, right?

India is most certainly not secular.

Lol this was funny, India is secular as per the constitution of India

This was again an ignorant western assumption

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:48 pm
by Page
Naushantiya wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
From what I've heard, no. The government seems to have a heavy Hindu bias. Of course, considering I'm rather uneducated about India, I'm probably wrong.


The constitution prohibits the BJP from making this into a hindu state, anything like that would be reversed, anways our hopes for a hindu country died 1100 years, it's just a miracle we survived thousand years of servitude and shame


Your nation has a Hindu majority. Whatever you think about Pakistan, don't you think Hindus are inherently more privileged in India than Muslims?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:48 pm
by Ryccia
Naushantiya wrote:
Ryccia wrote:
This is discrimination, so, no. Not all pakistanis are against you. This will only make you more like Pakistan because:

1. This is discrimination, and this will be a similarity that you will have.
2. You are doing the same thing to them for revenge.

And also, India is a secular country, right?

Furthermore...

Give Kashmir to Pakistan. Im not a Pakistani, but I believe that Kashmir is the source of all your conflict, and the Kashmiri people want to unite with Pakistan. So, if you want your hostilities to cease, give Kashmir to Pakistan. Is the right thing to do.



Bullshit only 2% of Kashmiris want to join Pakistan

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 982710.cms


Oh really? I thought differently. Anyway, I still say that Kashmir is the source of all your hatred. You should really resolve this.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:49 pm
by Salus Maior
Naushantiya wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
From what I've heard, no. The government seems to have a heavy Hindu bias. Of course, considering I'm rather uneducated about India, I'm probably wrong.


The constitution prohibits the BJP from making this into a hindu state, anything like that would be reversed, anways our hopes for a hindu country died 1100 years, it's just a miracle we survived thousand years of servitude and shame


Just because the constitution "forbids" it, doesn't mean that there isn't a bias.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:50 pm
by Naushantiya
Page wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:
The constitution prohibits the BJP from making this into a hindu state, anything like that would be reversed, anways our hopes for a hindu country died 1100 years, it's just a miracle we survived thousand years of servitude and shame


Your nation has a Hindu majority. Whatever you think about Pakistan, don't you think Hindus are inherently more privileged in India than Muslims?


The constitution does not recognize any official priviledges, and to answer your question, it depends upon the social standings, which vary from community to community just like in hindus

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:50 pm
by Naushantiya
Salus Maior wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:
The constitution prohibits the BJP from making this into a hindu state, anything like that would be reversed, anways our hopes for a hindu country died 1100 years, it's just a miracle we survived thousand years of servitude and shame


Just because the constitution "forbids" it, doesn't mean that there isn't a bias.

The BJP cannot make anti xyz laws as the courts would overule such laws
why are we arguing over the stupid

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:51 pm
by Page
Naushantiya wrote:
Page wrote:
Your nation has a Hindu majority. Whatever you think about Pakistan, don't you think Hindus are inherently more privileged in India than Muslims?


The constitution does not recognize any official priviledges, and to answer your question, it depends upon the social standings, which vary from community to community just like in hindus


The US Constitution is officially secular but Christians here are privileged and they enact their religious will on secular law often.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:51 pm
by MERIZoC
Naushantiya wrote:
Ryccia wrote:
This is discrimination, so, no. Not all pakistanis are against you. This will only make you more like Pakistan because:

1. This is discrimination, and this will be a similarity that you will have.
2. You are doing the same thing to them for revenge.

And also, India is a secular country, right?

Furthermore...

Give Kashmir to Pakistan. Im not a Pakistani, but I believe that Kashmir is the source of all your conflict, and the Kashmiri people want to unite with Pakistan. So, if you want your hostilities to cease, give Kashmir to Pakistan. Is the right thing to do.



Bullshit only 2% of Kashmiris want to join Pakistan

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 982710.cms

Yeah, that's a load of shit.
Which is one reason why the Kashmiri perspective on life in Kashmir is quite different to that of the tourists. Kashmiris have learnt to live with both political violence and the Indian intelligence agencies. If you are talking politics in a café in Srinagar and a stranger sits at the next table - you stop talking. If a foreign journalist asks you how many people in the Kashmir Valley support union with Pakistan, off the record you say 25% but on the record you adjust the number down to 10%.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26847362

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:51 pm
by Dyakovo
Amuaplye wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:
Isn't Mr jinnah being obvious

Presidential address by Muhammad Ali Jinnah to the Muslim League

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/prit ... _1940.html

Who is this "Mr. Jinnah"?

He was Pakistan's first Governor-general.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:53 pm
by Naushantiya
Page wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:
The constitution does not recognize any official priviledges, and to answer your question, it depends upon the social standings, which vary from community to community just like in hindus


The US Constitution is officially secular but Christians here are privileged and they enact their religious will on secular law often.

The Indian constitution is superior to the government and all such laws can be declared ultra vires as they go against the fundamental principles of the constitution as per the interpretation of the court

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:53 pm
by Naushantiya
Page wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:
The constitution does not recognize any official priviledges, and to answer your question, it depends upon the social standings, which vary from community to community just like in hindus


The US Constitution is officially secular but Christians here are privileged and they enact their religious will on secular law often.

The Indian constitution is superior to the government and all such laws can be declared ultra vires as they go against the fundamental principles of the constitution as per the interpretation of the court

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:53 pm
by Nelson R Mandela
Salus Maior wrote:


Erm, just because a large number of the population practices a religion, does not mean that the government is not secular.

But you never specified if the Indian government was secular, just India in general.