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What do you do?

Order the guards to open fire, I get to be a dictator!
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56%
*Sigh* Stand down... this is going to hurt.
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Screw the system, I'm taking the third option! -Points gun to head and pulls trigger-
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Hold on, isn't there a spare helicopter somewhere nearby that I could use to escape? Preferably one not made of solid gold...
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Total votes : 126

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Eastern Equestria
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:44 pm

I'm going to have to go with the option that involves me not getting slaughtered.

Wisconsin9 wrote:Fuck, I'm not dying for them. I am, however, perfectly willing and in fact quite eager to GTFO and disappear as soon as I can do so without being lynched.

Although one thing I'd do beforehand is make absolutely sure that the son of a bitch who ran away and threw me under the bus is as dead as a fucking doornail. Maybe string his body up from a flagpole outside my palace. I can't think of anything that would do a better job of letting people know that shit's changing.


He died when his solid gold helicopter crashed, remember?

I'm not sure how much of an effect stringing up the eviscerated, unrecognizable remnants of his corpse would have.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:47 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:I'm going to have to go with the option that involves me not getting slaughtered.

Wisconsin9 wrote:Fuck, I'm not dying for them. I am, however, perfectly willing and in fact quite eager to GTFO and disappear as soon as I can do so without being lynched.

Although one thing I'd do beforehand is make absolutely sure that the son of a bitch who ran away and threw me under the bus is as dead as a fucking doornail. Maybe string his body up from a flagpole outside my palace. I can't think of anything that would do a better job of letting people know that shit's changing.


He died when his solid gold helicopter crashed, remember?

I'm not sure how much of an effect stringing up the eviscerated, unrecognizable remnants of his corpse would have.

He isn't dead until I've seen the body.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:51 pm

I would shout to the guards.

''Kill them. Kill them all I command it!''

After the Rebels disperse, I will sit on the Iron Throne and father children named Lannister.

I will spend my time as dictator practicing sword fighting, reciting Valyrian poetry, and drinking with thieves and harlots. Whenever there is a rebellion, I will call the banners and ride out to lead my hosts while riding a white horse.

To celebrate my name day every year, I will host tournaments. If anyone disobeys my government they shall be stripped of all lands and titles and declared an enemy of the Crown.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:51 pm

Sell off all the country's valuables on eBay, buy an island, retire in peace, and just let the country burn. They'll sort themselves out eventually.
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:00 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:I'm going to have to go with the option that involves me not getting slaughtered.



He died when his solid gold helicopter crashed, remember?

I'm not sure how much of an effect stringing up the eviscerated, unrecognizable remnants of his corpse would have.

He isn't dead until I've seen the body.


Plot twist: The dictator is the transcendental space goat, and there is no body because his human form was but an ephemeral ruse used in a plot to troll the fuck out of you.

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Postby Roma Byzantina » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:02 pm

"Open fire!"
Time to punish the families and then institute reform. I'm fair but harsh, as a good Dictator should be. Also really harsh punishments for crinimals. Time to Hammurabi it up! The reign of the Holy Basileus begins! I'd also try to transition to Democracy in my later years.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:03 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:He isn't dead until I've seen the body.


Plot twist: The dictator is the transcendental space goat, and there is no body because his human form was but an ephemeral ruse used in a plot to troll the fuck out of you.

Take one of the people killed in the fight, have their corpse mangled beyond recognition (ideally this will have been already done in the battle), say it's the dictator's, and split before anyone gets around to doing a DNA test.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:07 pm

Well, I decided to become the dictator, I better do my fucking job as the dictator.

Down with the Rebels!
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:10 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:
Plot twist: The dictator is the transcendental space goat, and there is no body because his human form was but an ephemeral ruse used in a plot to troll the fuck out of you.

Take one of the people killed in the fight, have their corpse mangled beyond recognition (ideally this will have been already done in the battle), say it's the dictator's, and split before anyone gets around to doing a DNA test.


Eh, good enough for me.

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Postby Hastiaka » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:14 pm

Perhaps the old dictator has a panic room? Anyways, i'd order the palace guards to lock the doors with every table,chair,refrigerator,cabinets and computers that the old dictator had. And go the deepest room of the palace and surround myself with the guards.

or i give the grand-thingamajig to a stripper guard next to me.

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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:15 pm

Hastiaka wrote:Perhaps the old dictator has a panic room? Anyways, i'd order the palace guards to lock the doors with every table,chair,refrigerator,cabinets and computers that the old dictator had. And go the deepest room of the palace and surround myself with the guards.

or i give the grand-thingamajig to a stripper guard next to me.


I would probably also have a personal pistol with you just incase they somehow manage to kill your guards. Quickly shooting yourself will be no where near as unpleasant as what the rebels would do to you.
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Postby Hastiaka » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:16 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Hastiaka wrote:Perhaps the old dictator has a panic room? Anyways, i'd order the palace guards to lock the doors with every table,chair,refrigerator,cabinets and computers that the old dictator had. And go the deepest room of the palace and surround myself with the guards.

or i give the grand-thingamajig to a stripper guard next to me.


I would probably also have a personal pistol with you just incase they somehow manage to kill your guards. Quickly shooting yourself will be no where near as unpleasant as what the rebels would do to you.


that's why i had the second option in the first place :p

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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:18 pm

Hastiaka wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
I would probably also have a personal pistol with you just incase they somehow manage to kill your guards. Quickly shooting yourself will be no where near as unpleasant as what the rebels would do to you.


that's why i had the second option in the first place :p


They're probably going to kill everyone in the room, in a very violent way.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Alistan
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Postby Alistan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:23 pm

The steps I would do is:

1)Do a speech on why the country needs to reform

2) Order the military to stand down, on the condition to let the local police restore order to cities.

3)Issue decrees that abolishes the dictator's laws

4)Negotiate with the revolutionaries on what they specifically want (mostly likely a new constitution)

5)Order the creation of a Assembly of the Constitution (the one creates the constitution)

6)Meanwhile, declare the after-dictatorship a Reform Era

7)Resign as dictator so for elections to happen

8) If elected, build a modern state.
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Postby Hastiaka » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:26 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Hastiaka wrote:
that's why i had the second option in the first place :p


They're probably going to kill everyone in the room, in a very violent way.


Haven't really thought of that.

Quick, thingumabob! let's go to the spare helicopter that's just there anyway!

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Postby Zathganastan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:34 pm

Alistan wrote:The steps I would do is:

1)Do a speech on why the country needs to reform

2) Order the military to stand down, on the condition to let the local police restore order to cities.

3)Issue decrees that abolishes the dictator's laws

4)Negotiate with the revolutionaries on what they specifically want (mostly likely a new constitution)

5)Order the creation of a Assembly of the Constitution (the one creates the constitution)

6)Meanwhile, declare the after-dictatorship a Reform Era

7)Resign as dictator so for elections to happen

8) If elected, build a modern state.


You forgot the part where the revolutionaries aren't willing to negotiate with you and will likely shoot you on sight.
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Postby Esceen » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:34 pm

How to be A Benevolent Dictator:

1) Kill Rebels

2) Crush rest of rebellion

3) Tyrannical Regime for a couple of months

4) Install civil rights but keep glorious military autocracy

5) Crush dissent with secret police

Also make sure to give food to your people. Just have a good economy, enough jobs and enough food and your people will settle down

It also helps to brainwash next generation of Children in Government Funded schools to become patriots

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Postby Esceen » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:37 pm

Alistan wrote:The steps I would do is:

1)Do a speech on why the country needs to reform

2) Order the military to stand down, on the condition to let the local police restore order to cities.

3)Issue decrees that abolishes the dictator's laws

4)Negotiate with the revolutionaries on what they specifically want (mostly likely a new constitution)

5)Order the creation of a Assembly of the Constitution (the one creates the constitution)

6)Meanwhile, declare the after-dictatorship a Reform Era

7)Resign as dictator so for elections to happen

8) If elected, build a modern state.


You'd probably get assassinated by your own supporters and they would claim the revolutionaries did it, if you even survived the first negotiations in the first place

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Postby Alistan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:41 pm

Esceen wrote:
Alistan wrote:The steps I would do is:

1)Do a speech on why the country needs to reform

2) Order the military to stand down, on the condition to let the local police restore order to cities.

3)Issue decrees that abolishes the dictator's laws

4)Negotiate with the revolutionaries on what they specifically want (mostly likely a new constitution)

5)Order the creation of a Assembly of the Constitution (the one creates the constitution)

6)Meanwhile, declare the after-dictatorship a Reform Era

7)Resign as dictator so for elections to happen

8) If elected, build a modern state.


You'd probably get assassinated by your own supporters and they would claim the revolutionaries did it, if you even survived the first negotiations in the first place


Kill everyone who is deemed a threat to the regime.
Side with the revolutionaries
Kill the people who want the dictatorship back in place
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Postby Esceen » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:45 pm

Alistan wrote:
Esceen wrote:
You'd probably get assassinated by your own supporters and they would claim the revolutionaries did it, if you even survived the first negotiations in the first place


Kill everyone who is deemed a threat to the regime.
Side with the revolutionaries
Kill the people who want the dictatorship back in place


But the revolutionaries are a threat to the regime and your supporters want the regime in place. Technically, you are a threat to the regime and you where never the original dictator anyway so I see a scenario where you die anyway

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Postby Zathganastan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:48 pm

Alistan wrote:
Esceen wrote:
You'd probably get assassinated by your own supporters and they would claim the revolutionaries did it, if you even survived the first negotiations in the first place


Kill everyone who is deemed a threat to the regime.
Side with the revolutionaries
Kill the people who want the dictatorship back in place


All that would accomplish is making everything worst for yourself. As the Revolutionaries want the regime gone and aren't going to just let the one person who now personifies said regime live. While all attempting to kill off your old regime followers would do is turn what little support you had against you.
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The Allied states Military, zathganastans pride and Joy:
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Air force: 10,000,000 air force personal
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:21 am

Obviously I'd have my guards open fire. I mean, let's think about this- these revolutionaries are prepared to shoot everyone in the palace. Forget about my miserable life, potentially hundreds of innocent, unarmed servants could be killed just because they took a job at the dictator's palace to try and feed their kids. How is that fair? What sort of leader would I be if I let people who had faithfully served me and my predecessor, and were counting on me for protection, be mowed down in cold blood so that I could save the lives of a bloodthirsty lynch mob?

Once reinforcements had arrived, I would suppress the rebellion brutally and rule with an iron fist, making myself the focus of the nation's hatred, while simultaneously organising a fake counter-insurgency with my most loyal agent as its mysterious and charismatic leader. I would then organise my own staged assassination in broad daylight, observed by a huge crowd of my people. With the evil dictator seemingly dead, the country would rejoice and rally around my alleged killer, while my younger sister (who I would drag around in chains a bit before hand so no one thought we were on the same side) would succeed me as Empress and constitutional monarch.

Alternatively, there's the Aerys Targaryen solution; blow up the entire capital and be reborn as a dragon. Sounds kinda fun.
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Postby Wulfenia » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:06 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:would succeed me as Empress and constitutional monarch.


So you chose to go with neither tyranny nor democracy, but aristocracy?

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:07 am

Wulfenia wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:would succeed me as Empress and constitutional monarch.


So you chose to go with neither tyranny nor democracy, but aristocracy?

Plato would be proud.

We clearly haven't met. Hi, I'm Old Tyrannia. I like monarchism and anime references.
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Postby Wulfenia » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:09 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
So you chose to go with neither tyranny nor democracy, but aristocracy?

Plato would be proud.

We clearly haven't met. Hi, I'm Old Tyrannia. I like monarchism and anime references.


We have both of those in common.
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