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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
249
32%
Eastern Orthodox
50
7%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East , etc.)
9
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
46
6%
Methodist
33
4%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
77
10%
Baptist
84
11%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, non-denominational, etc.)
100
13%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
28
4%
Other Christian
93
12%
 
Total votes : 769

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Postby Othelos » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:00 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
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Well, as this charge has been leveled at you repeatedly, how bout you research so you know what the fuck you're talking about.

“Thus says Adonai , Do not learn the ways of the heathen”

Paganism is wrong.

So if I decide to worship Zeus, something bad is going to happen?

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:01 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Benuty wrote:Neither are several Jewish festivities.

If you want to stick strictly to the first five books I suggest you adopt Samaritanism. Atleast then it would make more sense, and you wouldn't have to worry about serving two masters.

But thy do appear in the Tanakh


Hanukkah doesn't appear in the Tanakh and yet it is one of the largest Jewish festivals.

Soooooo, yeah.

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Postby Benuty » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:02 pm

Othelos wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote: “Thus says Adonai , Do not learn the ways of the heathen”

Paganism is wrong.

So if I decide to worship Zeus, something bad is going to happen?

Not necessarily since you would be bound by Zeus instead of Adonai (poking fun at Efraim's blatant dualism here).
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:02 pm

Othelos wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote: “Thus says Adonai , Do not learn the ways of the heathen”

Paganism is wrong.

So if I decide to worship Zeus, something bad is going to happen?

Not if you're male...

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Postby Benuty » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:04 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Othelos wrote:So if I decide to worship Zeus, something bad is going to happen?

Not if you're male...

Well...Zeus did have an affair with a mortal man though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_(mythology)
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:09 pm

Benuty wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Not if you're male...

Well...Zeus did have an affair with a mortal man though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_(mythology)



I'll be damned. Didn't know that one. Then yes, if you Worship Zeus there is a very good chance you will get raped in the face.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:50 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Benuty wrote:Well...Zeus did have an affair with a mortal man though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_(mythology)



I'll be damned. Didn't know that one. Then yes, if you Worship Zeus there is a very good chance you will get raped in the face.

Zeus was a "everything that moved" kind of guy
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:51 pm

Othelos wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote: “Thus says Adonai , Do not learn the ways of the heathen”

Paganism is wrong.

So if I decide to worship Zeus, something bad is going to happen?

I say do it just to spite him.
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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:08 pm

The united states of Saints wrote:
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A. We've shown how you're claim of Sukkot is not in anyway substantiated, but hinges on an assumption based on a misinterpretation of what the word Manger means. (There wasn't any Inn, Peter and Mary most likely stayed in at a relatives house, and he was placed in a feeding trough, not a "booth".

B. No body is actually sure of Jesus' birthday as birthday's weren't even celebrated in the ANE (short of the coming of age). December is an estimate based on prophetic theory that Prophets and Kings die either on the anniversary of their birth, (So Jesus was born on Passover) or on the anniversy of their conception, which would place his birth in December.

C. You're right, Christmas isn't in the Torah, as the Torah was composed hundreds if not thousands of years before Jesus was born. Now in the Gospel, the birth is mentioned, but there is no specific date ascribed to his birth, the closest we get is a year based off the census, which is itself an estimate.

D. No Yeshua wasn't resurrected on Easter. He was resurected 3 days after the passover. Tradition he was killed on friday, was still dead on saturday, and then rose on Sunday. This became known as Pascha, (The New Passover). Easter was actually derived fromof a word in proto-germanic for the month April: Ēosturmōnaþ, which coincides with the Paschal month. Thus the Germans called it Easter. It's no more pagan than Calling Jesus, Christ instead of Messiah. It's the same word in a different language.

If that doesn't get through to him....

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:19 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

I'll be damned. Didn't know that one. Then yes, if you Worship Zeus there is a very good chance you will get raped in the face.

Zeus was a "everything that moved" kind of guy



True, didn't he bang a cow at one point.

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Postby Constaniana » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:40 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Zeus was a "everything that moved" kind of guy



True, didn't he bang a cow at one point.

Feckin' Greeks. Coming over here and taking our jobs and our women, and acting like they own the feckin' place!
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Postby Angleter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:46 am

Constaniana wrote:
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True, didn't he bang a cow at one point.

Feckin' Greeks. Coming over here and taking our jobs and our women, and acting like they own the feckin' place!


They invented gayness!
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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:28 pm

Angleter wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Feckin' Greeks. Coming over here and taking our jobs and our women, and acting like they own the feckin' place!


They invented gayness!


Not to mention that there is an island in Greece called Lesbos. I wonder who lives there?
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Postby Othelos » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:35 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Angleter wrote:
They invented gayness!


Not to mention that there is an island in Greece called Lesbos. I wonder who lives there?

Greeks?

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Postby Benuty » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:44 pm

Othelos wrote:
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Not to mention that there is an island in Greece called Lesbos. I wonder who lives there?

Greeks?

Worshippers of Cybele the mother goddess of the Anatolians for one.
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Postby Efraim-Judah » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:21 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:But thy do appear in the Tanakh


Hanukkah doesn't appear in the Tanakh and yet it is one of the largest Jewish festivals.

Soooooo, yeah.

Hanukkah is a small holiday? Are you confused???
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:28 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Hanukkah doesn't appear in the Tanakh and yet it is one of the largest Jewish festivals.

Soooooo, yeah.

Hanukkah is a small holiday? Are you confused???


"Unlike many Jewish holidays, Hanukkah (also known as the Festival of Lights) is not mentioned in the Bible. The historical events upon which the celebration is based are recorded in Maccabees I and II, two books contained within a later collection of writings known as the Apocrypha. Hanukkah is considered a “minor” Jewish festival"

http://www.reformjudaism.org/hanukkah-history

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Postby Efraim-Judah » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:19 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:Hanukkah is a small holiday? Are you confused???


"Unlike many Jewish holidays, Hanukkah (also known as the Festival of Lights) is not mentioned in the Bible. The historical events upon which the celebration is based are recorded in Maccabees I and II, two books contained within a later collection of writings known as the Apocrypha. Hanukkah is considered a “minor” Jewish festival"

http://www.reformjudaism.org/hanukkah-history

No, neither Reform Judaism nor I are confused.

They said its major...its not
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Postby Menassa » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:33 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Hanukkah doesn't appear in the Tanakh and yet it is one of the largest Jewish festivals.

Soooooo, yeah.

Hanukkah is a small holiday? Are you confused???

You ignored his very valid point... unless, Talmudically, we can assume that you agree with him.
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:56 pm

Angleter wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Feckin' Greeks. Coming over here and taking our jobs and our women, and acting like they own the feckin' place!


They invented gayness!

No, it's the Chinese he's after!
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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:58 pm

Othelos wrote:
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Not to mention that there is an island in Greece called Lesbos. I wonder who lives there?

Greeks?


Nevermind. It was a lame joke. I was trying to point out that Lesbos and lesbian both began with the first four same letters.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:00 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Othelos wrote:Greeks?


Nevermind. It was a lame joke. I was trying to point out that Lesbos and lesbian both began with the first four same letters.

I know, I was joking. It's actually where the word lesbian comes from.

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Postby Menassa » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:21 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:Hanukkah is a small holiday? Are you confused???


"Unlike many Jewish holidays, Hanukkah (also known as the Festival of Lights) is not mentioned in the Bible. The historical events upon which the celebration is based are recorded in Maccabees I and II, two books contained within a later collection of writings known as the Apocrypha. Hanukkah is considered a “minor” Jewish festival"

http://www.reformjudaism.org/hanukkah-history

No, neither Reform Judaism nor I are confused.

I don't see why what Reform Judaism has to say would actually matter to Efraim.
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Postby Angleter » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:40 pm

Menassa wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:
"Unlike many Jewish holidays, Hanukkah (also known as the Festival of Lights) is not mentioned in the Bible. The historical events upon which the celebration is based are recorded in Maccabees I and II, two books contained within a later collection of writings known as the Apocrypha. Hanukkah is considered a “minor” Jewish festival"

http://www.reformjudaism.org/hanukkah-history

No, neither Reform Judaism nor I are confused.

I don't see why what Reform Judaism has to say would actually matter to Efraim.


I think it's become abundantly clear that nothing any religious group has to say matters to Efraim.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:38 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:
"Unlike many Jewish holidays, Hanukkah (also known as the Festival of Lights) is not mentioned in the Bible. The historical events upon which the celebration is based are recorded in Maccabees I and II, two books contained within a later collection of writings known as the Apocrypha. Hanukkah is considered a “minor” Jewish festival"

http://www.reformjudaism.org/hanukkah-history

No, neither Reform Judaism nor I are confused.

They said its major...its not


You're dodging the point

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