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Plane Crashes in French Alps.

Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:04 am

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... rench-alps

A passenger plane for the airline Germanwings flying from Barcelona to Dusseldorf has crashed in southern France, officials have confirmed.

The Airbus A320 making the flight for Lufthansa’s lowcost arm, Germanwings, crashed near the small mountain village of Barcelonette in the southern Alps. It had made a distress call at 10.47am then disappeared off the radar at around 11.20am, Le Figaro reported.

The French TV station iTele said there had been at least 142 passengers and six crew-members on board.

Airbus said it is aware of the reports of a crash but could not confirm.


So, NSG, what do you think?

I personally find it absurd we'd have a plane flying over the Alps carrying passengers. The weather conditions alone would be a uber red flag.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:05 am

That's horrible....yet again horrible news for the aviation industry...

Also your notion that flying over mountains is misinformed

The average cruising altitude for commercial flights is 12,000 m (35,000 ft) give or take a few 1000m. The height of the Mount Blanc (highest mountain in the Swiss Alps) is 4 810m. Conditions at 12 000m will not affect an aircraft even if it happens to be 7 000m above a mountain.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:06 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:That's horrible....yet again horrible news for the aviation industry...


They've perfected the dissepearing plane act, I guess they're practicing the Snow-Yeti pickup act.
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Postby Hastiaka » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:09 am

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We should really fix these Aviation issues. If these crashes keeps on going on, i'll never ever ride a plane again.
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Postby Hirota » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:11 am

The Enclave Government wrote:I personally find it absurd we'd have a plane flying over the Alps carrying passengers. The weather conditions alone would be a uber red flag.
Do you know how many flights go over the Alps on a daily basis and we never see any crashes?

I find it absurd you seem to think one crash means we shouldn't be flying over mountains.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:12 am

Hirota wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:I personally find it absurd we'd have a plane flying over the Alps carrying passengers. The weather conditions alone would be a uber red flag.
Do you know how many flights go over the Alps on a daily basis and we never see any crashes?

I find it absurd you seem to think one crash means we shouldn't be flying over mountains.


I'm not exactly a aviation expert, but surely if you'd go over high mountains you'd either A, cause a avalanche on the mountain below, or B suffer some type of abnormality.
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High capacity planes means you need fewer crashes to cause more deaths.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:13 am

The Enclave Government wrote:I'm not exactly a aviation expert, but surely if you'd go over high mountains you'd either A, cause a avalanche on the mountain below, or B suffer some type of abnormality.

....................no
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:14 am

Edgy Opinions wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:I'm not exactly a aviation expert, but surely if you'd go over high mountains you'd either A, cause a avalanche on the mountain below, or B suffer some type of abnormality.

....................no



I don't exactly have aviation knowledge. What would I know.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:16 am

The Enclave Government wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:....................no



My aviation specialties is getting Poland into space, not flying planes over mountains ok.

POLAND CAN INTO SPACE


At first I took you seriously because you had over 2000 posts...We have a possible tragic accident and you have to demean the situation and belittle it in Polandball?
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Postby Laanvia » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:17 am

The Enclave Government wrote:I personally find it absurd we'd have a plane flying over the Alps carrying passengers. The weather conditions alone would be a uber red flag.

Did you really just say that? Really?
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Postby The Enclave Government » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:17 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:

My aviation specialties is getting Poland into space, not flying planes over mountains ok.

POLAND CAN INTO SPACE


At first I took you seriously because you had over 2000 posts...We have a possible tragic accident and you have to demean the situation and belittle it in Polandball?


In bad taste, yes. I'm sorry, it's 7 AM here.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:21 am

The Enclave Government wrote:I don't exactly have aviation knowledge. What would I know.

International traveling planes tend to go in near-stratospheric altitude, at least 4000m. Most mountains in the French Alps aren't that tall.
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Postby Torisakia » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:22 am

At least it wasn't Malaysian or shot down this time.

Considering the place it crashed in, we can go ahead and say that it crashed into a mountain. But, of course, it'll be blown out of proportion and a ten month investigation will be done on it.
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Edgy Opinions wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:I don't exactly have aviation knowledge. What would I know.

International traveling planes tend to go in near-stratospheric altitude, at least 4000m. Most mountains in the French Alps aren't that tall.


I was under the impression the mountains would change air pressure.
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Postby The Wolven League » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:22 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:

My aviation specialties is getting Poland into space, not flying planes over mountains ok.

POLAND CAN INTO SPACE


At first I took you seriously because you had over 2000 posts...We have a possible tragic accident and you have to demean the situation and belittle it in Polandball?

Let us people with dark senses of humor have them okay :(
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Postby Respawn » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:22 am

The king of Spain is visiting France today, which is interesting because the flight took off from Barcelona and crashed in Barcelonnette.

Spooky.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:24 am

Respawn wrote:The king of Spain is visiting France today, which is interesting because the flight took off from Barcelona and crashed in Barcelonnette.

Spooky.

And we really needed that with a fitting flag.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:26 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:The height of the Mount Blanc (highest mountain in the Swiss Alps) is 4 810m.


France and Italy will likely be exceptionally surprised to hear that Mont Blanc has moved to Switzerland.

The highest mountain in the Swiss Alps, as opposed to the Alps generally, is Monte Rosa, at 4634 m.
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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:26 am

The Enclave Government wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/24/german-a320-airbus-plane-crashes-french-alps

A passenger plane for the airline Germanwings flying from Barcelona to Dusseldorf has crashed in southern France, officials have confirmed.

The Airbus A320 making the flight for Lufthansa’s lowcost arm, Germanwings, crashed near the small mountain village of Barcelonette in the southern Alps. It had made a distress call at 10.47am then disappeared off the radar at around 11.20am, Le Figaro reported.

The French TV station iTele said there had been at least 142 passengers and six crew-members on board.

Airbus said it is aware of the reports of a crash but could not confirm.


So, NSG, what do you think?

I personally find it absurd we'd have a plane flying over the Alps carrying passengers. The weather conditions alone would be a uber red flag.


I think it's an aircraft accident!

The Alps aren't that high. Passenger aircraft like the A320 can easily fly higher than any mountain, including Mont Blanc in the Alps.

Could be an issue with costcutting, ie not climbing to a safe altitude to save fuel on short hop, but "don't fly over the Alps" is absurd.

Planes fly over the Andes and the Himalaya range. Many more fly over the Rocky Mountain range in the US. Flying over mountains is not inherantly unsafe.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:28 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:The height of the Mount Blanc (highest mountain in the Swiss Alps) is 4 810m.

France and Italy will likely be exceptionally surprised to hear that Mont Blanc has moved to Switzerland.

The highest mountain in the Swiss Alps, as opposed to the Alps generally, is Monte Rosa, at 4634 m.

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Postby Viridisolum » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:41 am

I'm very concerned about flying in these times.

Planes suddenly are crashing one after the other between periods of time.

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Postby Hirota » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:43 am

The Enclave Government wrote:I was under the impression the mountains would change air pressure.
Okay. It's a risk in small, single or two manned aircraft, not really in larger commercial aircraft like the A320
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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:48 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:The height of the Mount Blanc (highest mountain in the Swiss Alps) is 4 810m.


France and Italy will likely be exceptionally surprised to hear that Mont Blanc has moved to Switzerland.

The highest mountain in the Swiss Alps, as opposed to the Alps generally, is Monte Rosa, at 4634 m.


I would consider that an hilariously pedantic point. If I had made it myself.

Fuck Switzerland. If they want naming rights of the "Swiss Alps" they can apply for EU membership. Otherwise their Alps are "European Alps", "Alps (other) interstitial with European Alps" or "Frosty ConesTM".
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