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Alyakia wrote:

Ikania wrote:Not everywhere, but if you're gonna fly a flag at a public university then it's a good idea for it to be American.

actually it appears they want to avoid flying the flag of any nation

not that they can fly a flag inside one room

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:

Alyakia wrote:
actually it appears they want to avoid flying the flag of any nation

not that they can fly a flag inside one room

Just bring a flagpole and that'll be good.
*nod*

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:And to this, I say whatever, because it's one room

The Grim Reaper wrote:

Occupied Deutschland wrote:This proposal was authored by Matthew GUEVERA.
As people with the last name Guevara have been involved in mass killings and the infringement of human rights, not to mention the popularization and spread of militaristic dictatorship, I don't think his proposal should be allowed in the Student Council room nor acted upon. Since doing so could be viewed as an endorsement of such activities, or a noncontention with them that is antithetical to the ideas of life, liberty, and freedom.

I share my name with a cricket player, but I suck at cricket. Pretty sure Matthew's never committed genocide.

Alyakia wrote:

Ikania wrote:Not everywhere, but if you're gonna fly a flag at a public university then it's a good idea for it to be American.

actually it appears they want to avoid flying the flag of any nation

not that they can fly a flag inside one room

Occupied Deutschland wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:
I share my name with a cricket player, but I suck at cricket. Pretty sure Matthew's never committed genocide.

Yes, but people might get that impression because of the symbolism associated with that name.

Just as you obviously shouldn't be allowed to ever be introduced in public. You might be associated with the cricket player, and therefore the legacy of British imperialism. *nod*

Oneracon wrote:

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:And to this, I say whatever, because it's one room

The accurate title of this thread is: "California college student government removes all flags from one student government work room"

But that wouldn't serve OP's ideological "ebul lieberals" agenda.

The Grim Reaper wrote:

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Just bring a flagpole and that'll be good.
*nod*

I assume by fly they mean just display in general. Like those little ones you can hang.

Occupied Deutschland wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:
I share my name with a cricket player, but I suck at cricket. Pretty sure Matthew's never committed genocide.

Yes, but people might get that impression because of the symbolism associated with that name.

Just as you obviously shouldn't be allowed to ever be introduced in public. You might be associated with the cricket player, and therefore the legacy of British imperialism. *nod*

Alyakia wrote:

Occupied Deutschland wrote:Yes, but people might get that impression because of the symbolism associated with that name.

Just as you obviously shouldn't be allowed to ever be introduced in public. You might be associated with the cricket player, and therefore the legacy of British imperialism. *nod*

get a better analogy

like, seriously

Urran wrote:It's unpatriotic and absolutely outrageous.

Urran wrote:It's unpatriotic and absolutely outrageous.

Sheltopolis wrote:This is just beyond bullshit. I hope the liberals on this site will agree with me that while America is certainly guilty of its fair share of crimes and has often overstepped its constitutional boundaries, it has also done many wonderful things for this world, such as ending World War II and defeating Nazi Germany, the Civil Rights Movement and equality for minorities, putting man on the moon, the Industrial revolution, and standing as a bastion of free speech and enterprise throughout its 200-some year history.

Oneracon wrote:

Sheltopolis wrote:
They banned it from the campus lobby, which is the central part of the campus.

That's not what the article says. It was neither banned nor related to the campus lobby.

Sheltopolis wrote:Srsly....

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/03/06/uc-irvine-students-vote-to-remove-american-flag-from-campus-lobby/

“(F)lags construct paradigms of conformity and sets homogenized standards for others to obtain which in this country typically are idolized as freedom, equality and democracy.”

Scomagia wrote:I agree. The Flag is a symbol of authority, conformity, and group-think.

United North Atlantic States wrote:

Sheltopolis wrote:This is just beyond bullshit. I hope the liberals on this site will agree with me that while America is certainly guilty of its fair share of crimes and has often overstepped its constitutional boundaries, it has also done many wonderful things for this world, such as ending World War II and defeating Nazi Germany, the Civil Rights Movement and equality for minorities, putting man on the moon, the Industrial revolution, and standing as a bastion of free speech and enterprise throughout its 200-some year history.

Why the hell would liberals disagree with that?

Luminesa wrote:This is ridiculous.

Multiculturalism is not a bad thing. But this is sheer nonsense. I mean...what do I say to this?

Somebody wanna help me out? I'm at a loss for words.

Sheltopolis wrote:I'd rather not quibble about which room it was in. This story is not the end of the world but it is quite disappointing to see young college students disown the American flag. I feel this is a recurring trend among youth. And I find it quite ironic that these students claim to uphold free speech and inclusion, yet don't want American flags in their work room or what not. Perhaps they want to ban all flags, but that'd be kind of silly don't you think?

Sheltopolis wrote:

Oneracon wrote:That's not what the article says. It was neither banned nor related to the campus lobby.

I'd rather not quibble about which room it was in. This story is not the end of the world but it is quite disappointing to see young college students disown the American flag. I feel this is a recurring trend among youth. And I find it quite ironic that these students claim to uphold free speech and inclusion, yet don't want American flags in their work room or what not. Perhaps they want to ban all flags, but that'd be kind of silly don't you think?

Sheltopolis wrote:
I'd rather not quibble about which room it was in. This story is not the end of the world but it is quite disappointing to see young college students disown the American flag. I feel this is a recurring trend among youth. And I find it quite ironic that these students claim to uphold free speech and inclusion, yet don't want American flags in their work room or what not. Perhaps they want to ban all flags, but that'd be kind of silly don't you think?

Perhaps they want to ban all flags

A portion of the resolution reads: “(F)lags construct paradigms of conformity and sets homogenized standards for others to obtain which in this country typically are idolized as freedom, equality and democracy.”

Authored by student Matthew Guevara, the resolution goes on to state that since “the American flag has been flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism,” its display “does not express only selective aspects of its symbolism but the entire spectrum of its interpretation.”

Geilinor wrote:

Scomagia wrote:I agree. The Flag is a symbol of authority, conformity, and group-think.

So flags have to be abolished now? Or is it just this flag?