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by Mavorpen » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:47 am
by Shigiel » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:49 am
by Scepez » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:49 am
Wisconsin9 wrote:Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
We have 150 million cows, if they give around 200 litres of milk but if we can improve the quality of cattle than we can get 11k pa litres of milk p.a. We could provide milk to the entire world, we need to end cow slaughter and improve our cattle
We'd probably be better off just not raising cows at all. Livestock are environmentally catastrophic, and there are other sources of calcium.
by Celibrae » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:52 am
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Scepez wrote:
What makes a cow more valuable than say a pig or chicken, on moral grounds?
We have 150 million cows, if they give around 200 litres of milk but if we can improve the quality of cattle than we can get 11k pa litres of milk p.a. We could provide milk to the entire world, we need to end cow slaughter and improve our cattle
by Wisconsin9 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:53 am
by Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:54 am
Timsvill wrote:Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
We have 150 million cows, if they give around 200 litres of milk but if we can improve the quality of cattle than we can get 11k pa litres of milk p.a. We could provide milk to the entire world, we need to end cow slaughter and improve our cattle
What if we have certain cow's designated to be milk cows and food cows. Give the cow's 4 year's of life. Fatten them up. Then kill them peacefully. Just give them a ejection that puts them to sleep. Save the cow's from going through the pain. And we would have more milk cows then food cows.
by Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:55 am
Timsvill wrote:Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
We have 150 million cows, if they give around 200 litres of milk but if we can improve the quality of cattle than we can get 11k pa litres of milk p.a. We could provide milk to the entire world, we need to end cow slaughter and improve our cattle
What if we have certain cow's designated to be milk cows and food cows. Give the cow's 4 year's of life. Fatten them up. Then kill them peacefully. Just give them a ejection that puts them to sleep. Save the cow's from going through the pain. And we would have more milk cows then food cows.
by Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:55 am
Timsvill wrote:Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
We have 150 million cows, if they give around 200 litres of milk but if we can improve the quality of cattle than we can get 11k pa litres of milk p.a. We could provide milk to the entire world, we need to end cow slaughter and improve our cattle
What if we have certain cow's designated to be milk cows and food cows. Give the cow's 4 year's of life. Fatten them up. Then kill them peacefully. Just give them a ejection that puts them to sleep. Save the cow's from going through the pain. And we would have more milk cows then food cows.
by Ifreann » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:55 am
by Wisconsin9 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:57 am
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Timsvill wrote:What if we have certain cow's designated to be milk cows and food cows. Give the cow's 4 year's of life. Fatten them up. Then kill them peacefully. Just give them a ejection that puts them to sleep. Save the cow's from going through the pain. And we would have more milk cows then food cows.
Beef actually requires more food grain, as per peta :
It takes up to 13 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of meat, and even fish on fish farms must be fed up to 5 pounds of wild-caught fish to produce 1 pound of farmed fish flesh.
http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used ... resources/
While Cows that that give milk eat grass that is more economically sustainable than, grass fed beef is more expensive , I don't think fatten up cows is really a good idea
by Petrokovia » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:59 am
by Desperate Measures » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:01 am
Ifreann wrote:Ifreann wrote:I wouldn't expect that PETA actually manages to protect any animals.
Oh, and I will also note that PETA would object just as strenuously to farming cows for milk instead of meat. Or farming them at all. Or keeping them as pets. Or doing anything except letting them roam free.
by Gun Manufacturers » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:02 am
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by Petrokovia » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:04 am
Gun Manufacturers wrote:The theory of protecting animals is good, but the way that they go about it is batshit insane. Treating animals ethically is fine, but putting out comics attempting to turn children against their parents is wrong. Their taking of animals into their shelters almost solely to euthanize them, instead of attempting to find the adoptable ones homes is wrong. Their equating the AKC with the KKK is wrong. Their equating meat eaters with Nazis is wrong.
by Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:18 am
Scepez wrote:Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
We have 150 million cows, if they give around 200 litres of milk but if we can improve the quality of cattle than we can get 11k pa litres of milk p.a. We could provide milk to the entire world, we need to end cow slaughter and improve our cattle
The world has about 1.3 billion cows, which is more than enough to give people their milk. (Doesn't really effect me though, cause I absolutely hate milk. It's disgusting, but that's another topic.) They're all worth the same, and besides, if you're going to defend one, defend all of em.
by Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:20 am
Wisconsin9 wrote:Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Beef actually requires more food grain, as per peta :
It takes up to 13 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of meat, and even fish on fish farms must be fed up to 5 pounds of wild-caught fish to produce 1 pound of farmed fish flesh.
http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used ... resources/
While Cows that that give milk eat grass that is more economically sustainable than, grass fed beef is more expensive , I don't think fatten up cows is really a good idea
Depends on the animal and quality of the feed. Cows use more than other animals, but if the feed is good quality it can be as low as four pounds. Which will still be required even if we're not slaughtering them. At the end of the day, it's a net reduction in the amount of food available.
by Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:22 am
by Ifreann » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:22 am
Desperate Measures wrote:
I'm sure it will go very well if we just returned all the cows to the wild.
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Scepez wrote:
The world has about 1.3 billion cows, which is more than enough to give people their milk. (Doesn't really effect me though, cause I absolutely hate milk. It's disgusting, but that's another topic.) They're all worth the same, and besides, if you're going to defend one, defend all of em.
I really don't care about what people eat outside india, some people even eat dogs and snakes, should I bother about them ?
by Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:23 am
Ifreann wrote:Desperate Measures wrote:I'm sure it will go very well if we just returned all the cows to the wild.
I don't see what could possibly go wrong.Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:I really don't care about what people eat outside india, some people even eat dogs and snakes, should I bother about them ?
Thread's about PETA, not India.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:24 am
Gun Manufacturers wrote:The theory of protecting animals is good, but the way that they go about it is batshit insane. Treating animals ethically is fine, but putting out comics attempting to turn children against their parents is wrong. Their taking of animals into their shelters almost solely to euthanize them, instead of attempting to find the adoptable ones homes is wrong. Their equating the AKC with the KKK is wrong. Their equating meat eaters with Nazis is wrong.
by Fartsniffage » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:26 am
by Desperate Measures » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:30 am
by Fartsniffage » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:32 am
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