Some Republicans Propose Declaring Idaho A 'Christian State'

[Burleson 2]

I was just about to ask you that, but then I came up with a better question.

Have you ever heard of a constitution? Or America for that matter?

Burleson doesn't care about the constitution, we need to be good God fearing protestant fundamentalists!

I'm Catholic, get your facts straight.

[Nerotysia]

I see no difference.

Well one of them is famous for being a religion of production peace...

Not really, no.

[Tsaraine]

This is blatantly and obviously unconstitutional in the USA, as it violates the "Establishment clause". The thing is, I'd be willing to bet that the people proposing this bill know that. They don't expect it to pass, but by proposing it, they can tell their base "Hey, we're super godly! Look at these evil secularists preventing us from having Idaho be officially godly and just! Oppression of Christians is real, and you need to fight it by coming and voting for us, the godly side, against the evil secularists!"

[Washington Resistance Army]

Burleson doesn't care about the constitution, we need to be good God fearing protestant fundamentalists!

I'm Catholic, get your facts straight.

Really? Cuz everything about you screams fundamentalist.

Alright, let me redact that. We need to be good God fearing Catholic pseudo-fundamentalists who don't give an iota of a fuck about the constitution!

[Lakimina]

I see no difference.

Well one of them is famous for being a religion of production peace...

You really should stop acting you know what Islam is, because you don't.

[Nerotysia]

This is blatantly and obviously unconstitutional in the USA, as it violates the "Establishment clause". The thing is, I'd be willing to bet that the people proposing this bill know that. They don't expect it to pass, but by proposing it, they can tell their base "Hey, we're super godly! Look at these evil secularists preventing us from having Idaho be officially godly and just! Oppression of Christians is real, and you need to fight it by coming and voting for us, the godly side, against the evil secularists!"

I feel like that summarizes the entire Republican Party at this point.

[Lakimina]

Burleson doesn't care about the constitution, we need to be good God fearing protestant fundamentalists!

I'm Catholic, get your facts straight.

At least we know you're still a god fearing fundamentalist.

Or don't know what the Constitution is.

[Saint Kitten]

Burleson doesn't care about the constitution, we need to be good God fearing protestant fundamentalists!

I'm Catholic, get your facts straight.

Well that's relevant to the conversation

[Gold Harbor]

Well one of them is famous for being a religion of production peace...

Not really, no.

So you a admit it's not peaceable?

[Nerotysia]

Not really, no.

So you a admit it's not peaceable?

Very few major religions are peaceable. The two largest Abrahamic religions certainly aren't.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Not really, no.

So you a admit it's not peaceable?

You could argue there are few, if any, religions that are peaceful. There are even Buddhist militants for fucks sake. But that doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand.

[Lakimina]

Not really, no.

So you a admit it's not peaceable?

To say Islam is peaceful is like saying religion is peaceful

[Nerotysia]

So you a admit it's not peaceable?

To say Islam is peaceful is like saying religion is peaceful

He's not talking about Islam. He's still wrong though.

[The Nexus of Man]

So you a admit it's not peaceable?

You could argue there are few, if any, religions that are peaceful. There are even Buddhist militants for fucks sake. But that doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand.

Christianity is peaceful at heart. So is Islam. And Buddhism. And Judaism.

This is blatantly and obviously unconstitutional in the USA, as it violates the "Establishment clause". The thing is, I'd be willing to bet that the people proposing this bill know that. They don't expect it to pass, but by proposing it, they can tell their base "Hey, we're super godly! Look at these evil secularists preventing us from having Idaho be officially godly and just! Oppression of Christians is real, and you need to fight it by coming and voting for us, the godly side, against the evil secularists!"

So, why would you feed their ego, eh?

[Nerotysia]

You could argue there are few, if any, religions that are peaceful. There are even Buddhist militants for fucks sake. But that doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand.

Christianity is peaceful at heart. So is Islam. And Buddhism. And Judaism.

They don't act like it.

[Lakimina]

To say Islam is peaceful is like saying religion is peaceful

He's not talking about Islam. He's still wrong though.

Then which one?

[The Nexus of Man]

Christianity is peaceful at heart. So is Islam. And Buddhism. And Judaism.

They don't act like it.

A lot of people don't follow those dogmas. That does not make the religion violent.

[The Nexus of Man]

So you a admit it's not peaceable?

To say Islam is peaceful is like saying religion is peaceful

Which it is. In the core doctrines.

[Nerotysia]

They don't act like it.

A lot of people don't follow those dogmas. That does not make the religion violent.

Arguably it does. Also there are plenty of violent and capricious things written into the holy texts themselves.

[The Nexus of Man]

A lot of people don't follow those dogmas. That does not make the religion violent.

Arguably it does. Also there are plenty of violent and capricious things written into the holy texts themselves.

And most of them are invalidated by later scriptures, texts, doctrines, Gospels, etc.

With your logic, democracy is a force of evil because people can exploit it.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

You could argue there are few, if any, religions that are peaceful. There are even Buddhist militants for fucks sake. But that doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand.

Christianity is peaceful at heart. So is Islam. And Buddhism. And Judaism.

This is blatantly and obviously unconstitutional in the USA, as it violates the "Establishment clause". The thing is, I'd be willing to bet that the people proposing this bill know that. They don't expect it to pass, but by proposing it, they can tell their base "Hey, we're super godly! Look at these evil secularists preventing us from having Idaho be officially godly and just! Oppression of Christians is real, and you need to fight it by coming and voting for us, the godly side, against the evil secularists!"

So, why would you feed their ego, eh?

Are you suggesting that we have to let them have a Christian state and violate the constitution and the very bedrock of the country so that we don't incur the very minor possibility that a couple people are going to scream "Persecution!"
lol fuck all the noise that just came out of your mouth

[Greed and Death]

If they do this would that mean any non Christian is exempt from Idaho law?
You know what, I'm going to say yes.

Actually, that proposal seems to be supposed to be symbolic only, with no consequences for the law.

It is not even a government body just a political party central committee.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Christianity is peaceful at heart. So is Islam. And Buddhism. And Judaism.

They don't act like it.

Er, as a Muslim, yes I do. Don't lump me and the vast majority of Muslims in with the few fundamentalist whackjobs. We don't support them.

[Genivaria]

They're not this dumb.If this proposal passes, I think they'll respect every point of the Constitution and do everything to not break it.Otherwise, I'm sure that if they did break it, they'd be under fire within a day and wouldn't be able to maintain their "Christian State" anymore.

Most people are actually not in favor of this proposal, but wary of being called "Un-Christian"...

That's about how liberal Muslins in Saudi Arabia feel.

[Nerotysia]

They don't act like it.

Er, as a Muslim, yes I do. Don't lump me and the vast majority of Muslims in with the few fundamentalist whackjobs. We don't support them.

It's not really just a few fundie wackjobs. http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the- ... -overview/

But of course that doesn't mean all Muslims. That's a strawman.