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What should be our priority in space?

The Moon.
15
15%
Mars.
17
18%
Asteroids.
4
4%
Scientific research.
41
42%
Profit (commercial activity).
7
7%
National Security.
1
1%
Other.
10
10%
We should not be going into space.
2
2%
 
Total votes : 97

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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:54 am

We should have a space war program this would certainly scare Pakistan
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:57 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:We should have a space war program this would certainly scare Pakistan


Unless you're putting weapons into space, then I'm sure they won't care. India already has their own space program and I don't think they care.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:58 am

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:We should have a space war program this would certainly scare Pakistan


Unless you're putting weapons into space, then I'm sure they won't care. India already has their own space program and I don't think they care.


The Pakistanis would be pretty scared if we develop space weapons
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:00 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Unless you're putting weapons into space, then I'm sure they won't care. India already has their own space program and I don't think they care.


The Pakistanis would be pretty scared if we develop space weapons


Which is illegal anyway so it probably won't happen. Plus there are more important things in space like asteroids filled to the brim with minerals. I've heard the US is going to try hauling a large asteroid into orbit around the Earth to mine.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:02 am

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
The Pakistanis would be pretty scared if we develop space weapons


Which is illegal anyway so it probably won't happen. Plus there are more important things in space like asteroids filled to the brim with minerals. I've heard the US is going to try hauling a large asteroid into orbit around the Earth to mine.

You do realize that Pakistan is not a country that really cares about legality too, I think we should be capable too wage an all front war with Pakistan that is we should have the powers to punish Pakistan from air,land,sea and outerspace
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:05 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Which is illegal anyway so it probably won't happen. Plus there are more important things in space like asteroids filled to the brim with minerals. I've heard the US is going to try hauling a large asteroid into orbit around the Earth to mine.

You do realize that Pakistan is not a country that really cares about legality too, I think we should be capable too wage an all front war with Pakistan that is we should have the powers to punish Pakistan from air,land,sea and outerspace


If they did it would be likely that said weapon would be shot down by the US or other nation from the UN Security Council.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:07 am

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:You do realize that Pakistan is not a country that really cares about legality too, I think we should be capable too wage an all front war with Pakistan that is we should have the powers to punish Pakistan from air,land,sea and outerspace


If they did it would be likely that said weapon would be shot down by the US or other nation from the UN Security Council.

You do realize that we are taking steps by developing anti-satellite weaponry, I think their would be a time, when we could finally utilize space and that day we would truly punish Pakistan
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:08 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Unless you're putting weapons into space, then I'm sure they won't care. India already has their own space program and I don't think they care.


The Pakistanis would be pretty scared if we develop space weapons


Why single out Pakistan? Besides, their are much better reasons for the space program than deploying weaponry or fighting a war.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:09 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
The Pakistanis would be pretty scared if we develop space weapons


Why single out Pakistan? Besides, their are much better reasons for the space program than deploying weaponry or fighting a war.

Pakistan is the ancestral enemy...
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:12 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Why single out Pakistan? Besides, their are much better reasons for the space program than deploying weaponry or fighting a war.

Pakistan is the ancestral enemy...


Of who?

And it seems a bit odd to use the term "ancestral enemy" for a country that's existed for less than a century.
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:13 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
If they did it would be likely that said weapon would be shot down by the US or other nation from the UN Security Council.

You do realize that we are taking steps by developing anti-satellite weaponry, I think their would be a time, when we could finally utilize space and that day we would truly punish Pakistan


Go and start a war with them then. But the treaty specifically states no WMD's in space.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:14 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Pakistan is the ancestral enemy...


Of who?

And it seems a bit odd to use the term "ancestral enemy" for a country that's existed for less than a century.

I think you should read your history a little bit, I will not explain it to here but I can within a telegram, anyways Pakistan is the greatest and biggest enemy of India and we should focus our space programme for military use
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:15 am

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:You do realize that we are taking steps by developing anti-satellite weaponry, I think their would be a time, when we could finally utilize space and that day we would truly punish Pakistan


Go and start a war with them then. But the treaty specifically states no WMD's in space.

If Pakistan can sell nuclear weapons to north korea, why can't we put in WMD's in space ?
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:18 am

Well I know my main goal in the Kerbal Space Program...

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Postby Arcanda » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:19 am

Establish colonies on the Moon with cattle herds and wheat fields under some kind of bubbles.Sell houses.Create a real estate market for the Moon.With the money taken from that, build bigger spaceships to go to Mars.Repeat the same thing until we've colonized the entire Solar System.

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:19 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Of who?

And it seems a bit odd to use the term "ancestral enemy" for a country that's existed for less than a century.

I think you should read your history a little bit, I will not explain it to here but I can within a telegram, anyways Pakistan is the greatest and biggest enemy of India and we should focus our space programme for military use


Oh, I know about the dispute between Pakistan and India- another pathetic example of religious and nationalist intolerance by the sound of it. Regardless, Pakistan is one relatively new and little country. Your perspective is frighteningly narrow if you look at all the wonder and potential of the rest of the universe and conclude that the only or main reason to go their is to fight Pakistan. Besides, attacking Pakistan would risk a nuclear war that might leave India in ruins as well.

Anyway, this is getting rather off-topic.
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:19 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Go and start a war with them then. But the treaty specifically states no WMD's in space.

If Pakistan can sell nuclear weapons to north korea, why can't we put in WMD's in space ?


Well unless you would find it acceptable for any other space capable nation to do the same then I see no problem. Then everyone would have to worry about getting hit by some horrible orbital weapon.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:21 am

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:If Pakistan can sell nuclear weapons to north korea, why can't we put in WMD's in space ?


Well unless you would find it acceptable for any other space capable nation to do the same then I see no problem. Then everyone would have to worry about getting hit by some horrible orbital weapon.

Pakistan's space programme and missile programme are integrated, If they could do it they would have done it, the thing is, we need to do it before they do it.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:22 am

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Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:I think you should read your history a little bit, I will not explain it to here but I can within a telegram, anyways Pakistan is the greatest and biggest enemy of India and we should focus our space programme for military use


Oh, I know about the dispute between Pakistan and India- another pathetic example of religious and nationalist intolerance by the sound of it. Regardless, Pakistan is one relatively new and little country. Your perspective is frighteningly narrow if you look at all the wonder and potential of the rest of the universe and conclude that the only or main reason to go their is to fight Pakistan. Besides, attacking Pakistan would risk a nuclear war that might leave India in ruins as well.

Anyway, this is getting rather off-topic.

I think our space programme would be better off developing space weapons than going to mars
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:23 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Well unless you would find it acceptable for any other space capable nation to do the same then I see no problem. Then everyone would have to worry about getting hit by some horrible orbital weapon.

Pakistan's space programme and missile programme are integrated, If they could do it they would have done it, the thing is, we need to do it before they do it.


You'd be better off investing in missile defence technology, I would think. That way you might be able to intercept their nukes rather than enjoying mutually assured destruction.
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:23 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Well unless you would find it acceptable for any other space capable nation to do the same then I see no problem. Then everyone would have to worry about getting hit by some horrible orbital weapon.

Pakistan's space programme and missile programme are integrated, If they could do it they would have done it, the thing is, we need to do it before they do it.


They haven't done it because they signed the Outer Space Treaty. Even the North Koreans signed it.
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Postby Bentrada » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:25 am

UAWC wrote:Our atmosphere will fade like that of Mars once the Earth's core stops spinning due to loss of magnetic force.


I think you mean magnetic field. An atmosphere doesn't just 'fade'.

UAWC wrote:Planets like what? Mars is too close to the sun for us to survive its death.


You are thinking in the very long term. I don't think we should be worrying about the Sun's death.

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:25 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Oh, I know about the dispute between Pakistan and India- another pathetic example of religious and nationalist intolerance by the sound of it. Regardless, Pakistan is one relatively new and little country. Your perspective is frighteningly narrow if you look at all the wonder and potential of the rest of the universe and conclude that the only or main reason to go their is to fight Pakistan. Besides, attacking Pakistan would risk a nuclear war that might leave India in ruins as well.

Anyway, this is getting rather off-topic.

I think our space programme would be better off developing space weapons than going to mars


If your options are Create a new civilization that may thrive and enrich humanity for thousands of years or more or Build something to kill Pakistanis and you pick Option B, then I'm really not sure how to respond in a way that would be acceptable to the moderators here.
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Postby Bentrada » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:25 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:I think our space programme would be better off developing space weapons than going to mars


Uh, no.

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