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Autism
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Asperger's Syndrome
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PDD-NOS
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Postby Utrinque Paratus » Thu May 28, 2015 2:53 am

Joelyria wrote:
Utrinque Paratus wrote:Fucking Aspergers has killed my ambition to serve in the military. Thanks a fucking lot. :mad:


Could become a secret agent or an assassin instead.


Not really my style. :p
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu May 28, 2015 3:11 am

I feel I may have some ASD. Never gone to check it though. Might go for an adult ASD diagnosis after my exams are over for peace of mind.
It's either some limited high-functioning part of the ASD spectrum, or really bad anxiety.

I did get diagnosed for ADHD as a small child. The diagnosis was "he's just a bit lively".

@above, why? Is there a disqualification in place for those with ASD?
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Postby Utrinque Paratus » Thu May 28, 2015 3:16 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:I feel I may have some ASD. Never gone to check it though. Might go for an adult ASD diagnosis after my exams are over for peace of mind.
It's either some limited high-functioning part of the ASD spectrum, or really bad anxiety.

I did get diagnosed for ADHD as a small child. The diagnosis was "he's just a bit lively".

@above, why? Is there a disqualification in place for those with ASD?


Yeah, in the UK military there is an automatic disqualification for those with Aspergers and Autism. Shit sucks.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu May 28, 2015 3:46 am

Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I feel I may have some ASD. Never gone to check it though. Might go for an adult ASD diagnosis after my exams are over for peace of mind.
It's either some limited high-functioning part of the ASD spectrum, or really bad anxiety.

I did get diagnosed for ADHD as a small child. The diagnosis was "he's just a bit lively".

@above, why? Is there a disqualification in place for those with ASD?


Yeah, in the UK military there is an automatic disqualification for those with Aspergers and Autism. Shit sucks.

That seems discriminatory to me. I can understand the rationale- many autistic people would struggle to cope in a combat environment- but I don't think a blanket ban is necessary or fair. Surely there must be some sort of campaign to change this?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu May 28, 2015 3:49 am

Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I feel I may have some ASD. Never gone to check it though. Might go for an adult ASD diagnosis after my exams are over for peace of mind.
It's either some limited high-functioning part of the ASD spectrum, or really bad anxiety.

I did get diagnosed for ADHD as a small child. The diagnosis was "he's just a bit lively".

@above, why? Is there a disqualification in place for those with ASD?


Yeah, in the UK military there is an automatic disqualification for those with Aspergers and Autism. Shit sucks.

Well shit. I was looking to join the reserves.
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Postby Utrinque Paratus » Thu May 28, 2015 4:05 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Yeah, in the UK military there is an automatic disqualification for those with Aspergers and Autism. Shit sucks.

That seems discriminatory to me. I can understand the rationale- many autistic people would struggle to cope in a combat environment- but I don't think a blanket ban is necessary or fair. Surely there must be some sort of campaign to change this?


There has been, but they never come to anything that much and the MoD always seems to shrug them off and ignore them. As for the whole discriminatory thing, they say autistics would struggle to follow orders and could not cope under stress, which is kinda true for a lot of them but not me. I work brilliantly under stress.

Imperializt Russia wrote:Well shit. I was looking to join the reserves.


Tell me about it mate, I wanted to join the Paras but meh, shit happens I guess. :(
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Postby Colonial Rhodesia » Thu May 28, 2015 2:46 pm

Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I feel I may have some ASD. Never gone to check it though. Might go for an adult ASD diagnosis after my exams are over for peace of mind.
It's either some limited high-functioning part of the ASD spectrum, or really bad anxiety.

I did get diagnosed for ADHD as a small child. The diagnosis was "he's just a bit lively".

@above, why? Is there a disqualification in place for those with ASD?


Yeah, in the UK military there is an automatic disqualification for those with Aspergers and Autism. Shit sucks.
I am American but I look to Britain as my second home along with Rhodesia but I would never be able to fight for them because I would be turned down which is some Bullshit
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Postby Dain II Ironfoot » Thu May 28, 2015 5:24 pm

Colonial Rhodesia wrote:
Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Yeah, in the UK military there is an automatic disqualification for those with Aspergers and Autism. Shit sucks.
I am American but I look to Britain as my second home along with Rhodesia but I would never be able to fight for them because I would be turned down which is some Bullshit


You shouldn't. I love my country but i would never enter military service becouse i know i will fight for greedy politicians and money isntead of the country. If my country would be attacked, then i'd just join a militia of some sort and if i would feel the need to fight elsewhere i'd just go and fight there by other means.
I recently started a search on how to join the fight against IS, but have yet come up empty handed. Kurds don't accept people without combat experience and if i'd apply at Hezbollah i wouldn't be able to return to my country once the job is done :(

Anyhow, the point i'm trying to make is that one shouldn't follow the government of his/her country so blindly. I'd rather see people deciding on their own wether something is worth fighting for.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 28, 2015 11:03 pm

Don't have it myself, but one of my brothers is several autistic. Well, he has a sort of pervasive delay disorder, on the autistic spectrum. He's funny as hell, and I fucking love him. Has made me really defensive of disabled people.

Back when I was in school, on the bus, this eighth grader wouldn't stop telling him to shut up - my brother was several seats up, talking to himself and humming as he does, bothering no one else - even after I told him to quit. I told him he better stop one more time, firmly. A couple minutes later, he decided to do it again. So I reached over the seat in front of me, grabbed his shirt, slammed him against the window and told him if he ever fucked with my brother again I'd beat the living shit out of him.

He'd been bullying my brother for over a year, and that stopped it. But what also ended up happening was he told his dad, who happened to be a cop, about it, and brought him to my house, threatening legal action, acting all self-righteous like he hadn't done shit wrong. Until my autistic brother saw him, cowered, and said he was scared. That kind of turned the tide.

I got suspended from the bus for a while but that kid has been polite as shit to me and my brother since. So I'm satisfied.
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Postby Dain II Ironfoot » Fri May 29, 2015 1:24 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Don't have it myself, but one of my brothers is several autistic. Well, he has a sort of pervasive delay disorder, on the autistic spectrum. He's funny as hell, and I fucking love him. Has made me really defensive of disabled people.

Back when I was in school, on the bus, this eighth grader wouldn't stop telling him to shut up - my brother was several seats up, talking to himself and humming as he does, bothering no one else - even after I told him to quit. I told him he better stop one more time, firmly. A couple minutes later, he decided to do it again. So I reached over the seat in front of me, grabbed his shirt, slammed him against the window and told him if he ever fucked with my brother again I'd beat the living shit out of him.

He'd been bullying my brother for over a year, and that stopped it. But what also ended up happening was he told his dad, who happened to be a cop, about it, and brought him to my house, threatening legal action, acting all self-righteous like he hadn't done shit wrong. Until my autistic brother saw him, cowered, and said he was scared. That kind of turned the tide.

I got suspended from the bus for a while but that kid has been polite as shit to me and my brother since. So I'm satisfied.


Job well done, some people indeed need a proper lesson before they start to act normal. Those complaining about assault should back off, bullying is often far worse then a hit against a window, people often tend to underestimate the emotional consiquenses of bullying.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 1:44 am

Dain II Ironfoot wrote:Job well done, some people indeed need a proper lesson before they start to act normal. Those complaining about assault should back off, bullying is often far worse then a hit against a window, people often tend to underestimate the emotional consiquenses of bullying.

Have there been complaints?

It's not as if it was overly violent. I just scared him, basically. It was dealt with and there was no legal action or anything. Not like I even gave him a bump or bruise - he probably hurt me more by twisting the skin on my arm. Not to mention the emotional trauma he caused my autistic brother.
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Postby Dain II Ironfoot » Fri May 29, 2015 2:02 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Dain II Ironfoot wrote:Job well done, some people indeed need a proper lesson before they start to act normal. Those complaining about assault should back off, bullying is often far worse then a hit against a window, people often tend to underestimate the emotional consiquenses of bullying.

Have there been complaints?

It's not as if it was overly violent. I just scared him, basically. It was dealt with and there was no legal action or anything. Not like I even gave him a bump or bruise - he probably hurt me more by twisting the skin on my arm. Not to mention the emotional trauma he caused my autistic brother.


The cop right?

Ah, it should have hurt him in my opinion though. But then, over here in my nation assault charges are rarely made by younger people so most of the time you can beat somebody up and walk free.
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Postby Autrael » Fri May 29, 2015 3:11 am

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri May 29, 2015 3:20 am

Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I feel I may have some ASD. Never gone to check it though. Might go for an adult ASD diagnosis after my exams are over for peace of mind.
It's either some limited high-functioning part of the ASD spectrum, or really bad anxiety.

I did get diagnosed for ADHD as a small child. The diagnosis was "he's just a bit lively".

@above, why? Is there a disqualification in place for those with ASD?


Yeah, in the UK military there is an automatic disqualification for those with Aspergers and Autism. Shit sucks.


I know someone who went right through Cadets and then learnt about that.
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Postby Glorious KASSRD » Fri May 29, 2015 6:02 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Don't have it myself, but one of my brothers is several autistic. Well, he has a sort of pervasive delay disorder, on the autistic spectrum. He's funny as hell, and I fucking love him. Has made me really defensive of disabled people.

Back when I was in school, on the bus, this eighth grader wouldn't stop telling him to shut up - my brother was several seats up, talking to himself and humming as he does, bothering no one else - even after I told him to quit. I told him he better stop one more time, firmly. A couple minutes later, he decided to do it again. So I reached over the seat in front of me, grabbed his shirt, slammed him against the window and told him if he ever fucked with my brother again I'd beat the living shit out of him.

He'd been bullying my brother for over a year, and that stopped it. But what also ended up happening was he told his dad, who happened to be a cop, about it, and brought him to my house, threatening legal action, acting all self-righteous like he hadn't done shit wrong. Until my autistic brother saw him, cowered, and said he was scared. That kind of turned the tide.

I got suspended from the bus for a while but that kid has been polite as shit to me and my brother since. So I'm satisfied.

Thank you, for defending an autistic bring bullied. I wish someone had done the same for me.

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Postby Utrinque Paratus » Fri May 29, 2015 6:51 am

Dain II Ironfoot wrote:
Colonial Rhodesia wrote:I am American but I look to Britain as my second home along with Rhodesia but I would never be able to fight for them because I would be turned down which is some Bullshit


You shouldn't. I love my country but i would never enter military service becouse i know i will fight for greedy politicians and money isntead of the country. If my country would be attacked, then i'd just join a militia of some sort and if i would feel the need to fight elsewhere i'd just go and fight there by other means.
I recently started a search on how to join the fight against IS, but have yet come up empty handed. Kurds don't accept people without combat experience and if i'd apply at Hezbollah i wouldn't be able to return to my country once the job is done :(

Anyhow, the point i'm trying to make is that one shouldn't follow the government of his/her country so blindly. I'd rather see people deciding on their own wether something is worth fighting for.


Kurds DO accept people without combat experience...although it preferred, but they offer basic training.
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Postby Utrinque Paratus » Fri May 29, 2015 6:54 am

Dain II Ironfoot wrote:
Colonial Rhodesia wrote:I am American but I look to Britain as my second home along with Rhodesia but I would never be able to fight for them because I would be turned down which is some Bullshit


You shouldn't. I love my country but i would never enter military service becouse i know i will fight for greedy politicians and money isntead of the country. If my country would be attacked, then i'd just join a militia of some sort and if i would feel the need to fight elsewhere i'd just go and fight there by other means.
I recently started a search on how to join the fight against IS, but have yet come up empty handed. Kurds don't accept people without combat experience and if i'd apply at Hezbollah i wouldn't be able to return to my country once the job is done :(

Anyhow, the point i'm trying to make is that one shouldn't follow the government of his/her country so blindly. I'd rather see people deciding on their own wether something is worth fighting for.


Don't tell people what to do, I want to join the military as it runs in the family and It appeals to me. I don't give a flying shit about these "greedy politicians", that's not my business and doesn't bother me.
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Postby Dain II Ironfoot » Fri May 29, 2015 7:09 am

Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Dain II Ironfoot wrote:
You shouldn't. I love my country but i would never enter military service becouse i know i will fight for greedy politicians and money isntead of the country. If my country would be attacked, then i'd just join a militia of some sort and if i would feel the need to fight elsewhere i'd just go and fight there by other means.
I recently started a search on how to join the fight against IS, but have yet come up empty handed. Kurds don't accept people without combat experience and if i'd apply at Hezbollah i wouldn't be able to return to my country once the job is done :(

Anyhow, the point i'm trying to make is that one shouldn't follow the government of his/her country so blindly. I'd rather see people deciding on their own wether something is worth fighting for.


Don't tell people what to do, I want to join the military as it runs in the family and It appeals to me. I don't give a flying shit about these "greedy politicians", that's not my business and doesn't bother me.


:palm:
It is your buisness if you join the military, but hey, if you want to join the army, go ahead, i won't stop you.
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Postby Utrinque Paratus » Fri May 29, 2015 7:10 am

Dain II Ironfoot wrote:
Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Don't tell people what to do, I want to join the military as it runs in the family and It appeals to me. I don't give a flying shit about these "greedy politicians", that's not my business and doesn't bother me.


:palm:
It is your buisness if you join the military, but hey, if you want to join the army, go ahead, i won't stop you.


Well unfortunately I can't, I don't qualify for service in the British Army due to my EXTREMELY mild Aspergers. They refused to even take me for a medical assessment. It should be on a case by case basis instead of outright discrimination.

I'll try the Foreign Legion.
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Postby Colonial Rhodesia » Fri May 29, 2015 2:19 pm

Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Dain II Ironfoot wrote:
:palm:
It is your buisness if you join the military, but hey, if you want to join the army, go ahead, i won't stop you.


Well unfortunately I can't, I don't qualify for service in the British Army due to my EXTREMELY mild Aspergers. They refused to even take me for a medical assessment. It should be on a case by case basis instead of outright discrimination.

I'll try the Foreign Legion.

I actually have a plan to take back Zimbabwe and free it's people from Mugabe as a Aspie I have been told it will never happen would you guys fight for Rhodesia if you had the chance to?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 3:01 pm

Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Dain II Ironfoot wrote:
:palm:
It is your buisness if you join the military, but hey, if you want to join the army, go ahead, i won't stop you.


Well unfortunately I can't, I don't qualify for service in the British Army due to my EXTREMELY mild Aspergers. They refused to even take me for a medical assessment. It should be on a case by case basis instead of outright discrimination.

I'll try the Foreign Legion.

Unless you're from a rather impoverished background, don't count on making it, even if you score perfectly. FFL tends to be pretty specific in who it takes - largely people with nowhere to go and nothing left. If you're middle class, with a clean record and from a Western country, I'd say you really shouldn't bother.
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Postby Dain II Ironfoot » Fri May 29, 2015 3:06 pm

Colonial Rhodesia wrote:
Utrinque Paratus wrote:
Well unfortunately I can't, I don't qualify for service in the British Army due to my EXTREMELY mild Aspergers. They refused to even take me for a medical assessment. It should be on a case by case basis instead of outright discrimination.

I'll try the Foreign Legion.

I actually have a plan to take back Zimbabwe and free it's people from Mugabe as a Aspie I have been told it will never happen would you guys fight for Rhodesia if you had the chance to?


Sure, why not. Mugabe is an ass anyways.
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Postby Colonial Rhodesia » Fri May 29, 2015 3:07 pm

Dain II Ironfoot wrote:
Colonial Rhodesia wrote:I actually have a plan to take back Zimbabwe and free it's people from Mugabe as a Aspie I have been told it will never happen would you guys fight for Rhodesia if you had the chance to?


Sure, why not. Mugabe is an ass anyways.

tell me your skills and your age please and T.G. your friends P.S. I am 15
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 3:11 pm

Colonial Rhodesia wrote:
Dain II Ironfoot wrote:
Sure, why not. Mugabe is an ass anyways.

tell me your skills and your age please and T.G. your friends P.S. I am 15

Am I allowed to laugh now?
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Postby Colonial Rhodesia » Fri May 29, 2015 3:12 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Colonial Rhodesia wrote:tell me your skills and your age please and T.G. your friends P.S. I am 15

Am I allowed to laugh now?

hell yes you are :rofl: we all Rhodesians
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