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by Organized States » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:07 am
by Connori Pilgrims » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:14 am
Vikingardr wrote:Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain has kicked protesters out of a budget hearing, calling them “low-life scum.”
The upheaval came Thursday on Capitol Hill after members of an anti-war group calling itself Code Pink approached a witness table where former secretaries of state Henry Kissinger, Madeleine Albright and George P. Shultz were testifying. The protesters carried signs calling the 91-year-old Kissinger a war criminal.
“Arrest Henry Kissinger for war crimes!” the protesters chanted.
McCain shot back, “Get out of here, you low-life scum.”
Capitol Police removed the protesters from the room.
Source as well as video of event
This is absolutely disgraceful of McCain for defending a war criminal. I've lost the tiny amount of respect I've had for McCain, which wasn't very much.
Some background info on Kissinger's crimes if those are unaware: In Chile, Kissinger helped Augusto Pinochet overthrow the democratically elected Socialist government of Salvador Allende, sent thousands of political dissidents to their deaths, and installed a military dictatorship (fascism). From 1969 through 1973, Kissinger, working for Richard Nixon, oversaw the slaughter in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, which led to the deaths of millions of people. Many thousands more died from the affects of massive doses of Agent Orange and from unexploded US bombs that cover the countryside. Later, in 1975, while working for President Gerald Ford, Kissinger pre-approved the Indonesian dictator Suharto’s bloody invasion of the small island of East Timor. This illegal act of aggression was carried out with weapons furnished by the US. By the time the Indonesian occupation finally ended in 1999, 200,000 Timorese – 30 percent of the population – had been wiped out (in other words, genocide).
Kissinger is a war criminal, for starting illegal wars, overthrowing elected leaders, dropping chemical weapons, or committing slaughter and genocide against those helpless. Sadly, he will most likely not be charged, and history, at least in America, will forget his heinous war crimes and crimes against Humanity.
What are your thoughts on McCain calling the protesters "low life scum"? Also, what are your thoughts on Henry Kissinger?
I think both are scum, personally.
by Tsaraine » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:57 am
by Alyakia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:16 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:He's right.
Kissinger was and is a brilliant statesman and foreign policy genius. The real shame is his mind wasn't utilized more.
by The Greater Aryan Race » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:20 am
Alyakia wrote:Mike the Progressive wrote:He's right.
Kissinger was and is a brilliant statesman and foreign policy genius. The real shame is his mind wasn't utilized more.
is there any war criminal or mass murderer, anywhere, that you won't defend?
well, specifically ones that are on your side. is that the key issue? whether they're on your side, or at least say they are?
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:So, uh... Is this another one of those threads where everyone is supposed to feel outraged and circle-jerk in agreement of how injust and terrible the described incident is?
Because if it is, I'm probably going to say something mean and contrary just to contradict the majority.
by Imperialpowersofkorea » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:25 am
by Mike the Progressive » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:29 am
Alyakia wrote:Mike the Progressive wrote:He's right.
Kissinger was and is a brilliant statesman and foreign policy genius. The real shame is his mind wasn't utilized more.
is there any war criminal or mass murderer, anywhere, that you won't defend?
well, specifically ones that are on your side. is that the key issue? whether they're on your side, or at least say they are?
by Ifreann » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:29 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:Alyakia wrote:
is there any war criminal or mass murderer, anywhere, that you won't defend?
well, specifically ones that are on your side. is that the key issue? whether they're on your side, or at least say they are?
War criminal or mass murderer are terms that can be (and are) thrown around so liberally, so loosely that technically every leader of every nation who has overseen military action is one.
by Alyakia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:34 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:Alyakia wrote:
is there any war criminal or mass murderer, anywhere, that you won't defend?
well, specifically ones that are on your side. is that the key issue? whether they're on your side, or at least say they are?
War criminal or mass murderer are terms that can be (and are) thrown around so liberally, so loosely that technically every leader of every nation who has overseen military action is one.
by Earl of Sandwich IV » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:59 am
by Apparatchikstan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:11 am
by Robert Magoo » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:39 am
by Divitaen » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:42 am
by The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:45 am
by Risottia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:48 am
by Margno » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:10 am
by Saiwania » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:31 am
Connori Pilgrims wrote:As for McCain, he should really retire. Politics is a young man's game.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:58 am
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:00 pm
Divitaen wrote:Kissinger was honestly a terrible Secretary of State and advisor. He is arguably responsible, at least in part, for many of the US's worst foreign policy moves, including letting in the Shah that started the Iran hostage crisis, and of course who can forget the Vietnam War. And of course the intervention in Chile that installed right-wing dictator Augusto Pinochet. The protestors were right, Kissinger is a terrible leader and like most US foreign policy officials has blood on his hands. McCain was being a usual jingoistic idiot.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Hanzhong (Ancient) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:02 pm
by Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:02 pm
Robert Magoo wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Indeed. It's like the people who want Jefferson hated because he owned slaves. His time; you would have been strange to not have some. Now we believe that's a bad thing......
Slavery was always wrong. The thing is that Jefferson treated his slaves relatively well, and if he hadn't kept them, they would have likely ended up in worse hands elsewhere.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:08 pm
Hanzhong wrote:Cavorting with Ukrainian neo-Nazis, and now this. McCain should salvage what remains of his dignity and retire to the Old Senator's Home.
Kissinger of course, should appear before an international tribunal for war crimes.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Alyakia » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:13 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Robert Magoo wrote:Slavery was always wrong. The thing is that Jefferson treated his slaves relatively well, and if he hadn't kept them, they would have likely ended up in worse hands elsewhere.
That doesn't deny the fact that we cannot apply current morality to the past.
Historians often refrain from it. You cannot judge a person's actions once they are gone and declare them evil scum. You can, however, give honest disapproval of such actions and ensure people remember these things so it never happens again.
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