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Postby Celritannia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:31 am

US fails at Capitalism? :eyebrow:

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:36 am

Gauthier wrote:Nothing new. Budweiser keeps genuine Polish Budweiser beer out.

Not Polish, Czech. And Bud is keeping the real deal from the US market for a good reason, since Czech beer is superior to the pathetic swill that is mainstream US beer. Be grateful for microbreweries.
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Postby Olthar » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:37 am

Hershey sucks; Cadbury sucks. I guess I just don't care.
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Good thing I'm back in the UK.

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Postby The Land of Eternal Prosperity » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:46 am

Will this affect US bases?

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:47 am

The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:Will this affect US bases?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume yes, since the commissionary probably buys its stuff from a giant warehouse in the US.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:48 am

Celritannia wrote:US fails at Capitalism? :eyebrow:

No, this is just the next level. Control your market for ultimate profit maximalization. The best way to defeat the competition is to keep them far, far away.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby The Land of Eternal Prosperity » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:49 am

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The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:Will this affect US bases?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume yes, since the commissionary probably buys its stuff from a giant warehouse in the US.

Damn it. Why AAFES, why?

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:00 am

The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume yes, since the commissionary probably buys its stuff from a giant warehouse in the US.

Damn it. Why AAFES, why?


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The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:Damn it. Why AAFES, why?

Better start praying you get posted to a US base in the Glorious British Chocolate Empire!

Wouldn't it be treason for US military personnel to eat Cadbury now? Hershey's lobby in Washington probably made it so.
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:04 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Celritannia wrote:US fails at Capitalism? :eyebrow:

No, this is just the next level. Control your market for ultimate profit maximalization. The best way to defeat the competition is to keep them far, far away.


Like Hershey can compete with names of Cadbury and Nestle :P
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Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:07 am

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Tubbsalot wrote:...no? All that suggests is that their products probably have a longer shelf life than Cadbury's... especially if they have larger quantities of sugar, since sugar doesn't spoil easily.

What it implies is their product has a shorter shelf life than Cadbury products, hence why they have to add preservatives.

Well, no. The fact that they've added preservatives implies they have a longer shelf life, because anything with added preservatives is going to last longer than an equivalent product with none. Adding preservatives doesn't mean your product will spoil within seconds otherwise, it implies you want a longer shelf life - which could easily be due to issues of transport time, preferences of their customers for longer-lasting stock to prevent waste, and blah blah blah.

And even if that weren't the case, just because something spoils quickly doesn't mean there's a problem with the recipe. If you leave warm meat out for a day, you won't want to eat it, but you won't complain about how meat is therefore a terrible food.

I mean, in this particular case, preservatives would have implications somewhere between neutral and bad... I just objected to the logic "has preservatives, therefore is terrible."
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The best way to defeat the competition is to buy all of it and absorb and dismantle it, surely?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:09 am

Celritannia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:No, this is just the next level. Control your market for ultimate profit maximalization. The best way to defeat the competition is to keep them far, far away.

Like Hershey can compete with names of Cadbury and Nestle :P

In the desperate battle for market domination and brand survival, delusions of grandeur are not uncommon.
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Postby The Austria-Hungary » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:12 am

I like Both. Yells " give me all your chocolate!" :twisted:
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:13 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:The best way to defeat the competition is to buy all of it and absorb and dismantle it, surely?


Yeah, an American company attempting that on Cadbury would have to get rejected by the state department as there is no way the UK would allow it. Protectionism works both ways :p
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Imperializt Russia wrote:The best way to defeat the competition is to buy all of it and absorb and dismantle it, surely?


Yeah, an American company attempting that on Cadbury would have to get rejected by the state department as there is no way the UK would allow it. Protectionism works both ways :p

Kraft owns Cadbury though.
We almost had riots in the streets when that went though.

Then Kraft changed the Dairy Milk chocolate in the Creme Eggs (an "Easter" traditional product over here, available for only part of the year) for American-style chocolate, reduced the pack size and kept the price the same, they turned around, sneering like smarmy fucks and told us they were never called "Dairy Milk Creme Eggs".
Now we might have another set of national riots.
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Celritannia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:No, this is just the next level. Control your market for ultimate profit maximalization. The best way to defeat the competition is to keep them far, far away.


Like Hershey can compete with names of Cadbury and Nestle :P

Meh. All three of them suck. Anything that cheap isn't real chocolate.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:14 am

Meh. The chocolates here in Canada are superior than south of the 49th. *proudly eats some Smarties and Kit-Kats while noticing how they taste better*
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Olthar wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Like Hershey can compete with names of Cadbury and Nestle :P

Meh. All three of them suck. Anything that cheap isn't real chocolate.

I wasn't aware chocolate hipsters even existed, but there you go.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:17 am

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Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Yeah, an American company attempting that on Cadbury would have to get rejected by the state department as there is no way the UK would allow it. Protectionism works both ways :p

Kraft owns Cadbury though.
We almost had riots in the streets when that went though.

Then Kraft changed the Dairy Milk chocolate in the Creme Eggs (an "Easter" traditional product over here, available for only part of the year) for American-style chocolate, reduced the pack size and kept the price the same, they turned around, sneering like smarmy fucks and told us they were never called "Dairy Milk Creme Eggs".
Now we might have another set of national riots.


Wait, this happened in the UK or US?
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The UK.
Hence why we're really fucking pissed.
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Celritannia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:No, this is just the next level. Control your market for ultimate profit maximalization. The best way to defeat the competition is to keep them far, far away.


Like Hershey can compete with names of Cadbury and Nestle :P

It could burn those businesses to the ground if Hershey wanted to.
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Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Kraft owns Cadbury though.
We almost had riots in the streets when that went though.

Then Kraft changed the Dairy Milk chocolate in the Creme Eggs (an "Easter" traditional product over here, available for only part of the year) for American-style chocolate, reduced the pack size and kept the price the same, they turned around, sneering like smarmy fucks and told us they were never called "Dairy Milk Creme Eggs".
Now we might have another set of national riots.

Wait, this happened in the UK or US?

The United Kingdom, of course. The quality of Cadbury has been systematically ruined by its new American masters. These vile cultural imperialists won't stop until they manage to sell the lowest quality chocolate for the highest price they can slap on their inferior product.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Olthar » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:22 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Olthar wrote:Meh. All three of them suck. Anything that cheap isn't real chocolate.

I wasn't aware chocolate hipsters even existed, but there you go.

I'm just following all the elitism of this thread to it's logical conclusion.
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