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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:25 am

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Ifreann wrote:Can you explain to use why you want people who look like women to be made to use the same bathroom as you?


Because they're of the male sex?


So?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:29 am

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Ifreann wrote:Can you explain to use why you want people who look like women to be made to use the same bathroom as you?


Because they're of the male sex?

Why does that matter to you? Do you tend to sex* people when they're trying to excrete waste near you?



*sex, verb, to determine the sex of.
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Postby Orles » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:38 am

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The Grey Wolf wrote:
Because they're of the male sex?

Why does that matter to you? Do you tend to sex* people when they're trying to excrete waste near you?



*sex, verb, to determine the sex of.

I, for one, get very uncomfortable when I'm looking at someone else's genitals while in a public bathroom and they don't resemble mine.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:42 am

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Ifreann wrote:Why does that matter to you? Do you tend to sex* people when they're trying to excrete waste near you?



*sex, verb, to determine the sex of.

I, for one, get very uncomfortable when I'm looking at someone else's genitals while in a public bathroom and they don't resemble mine.

I feel like there may be a simpler solution to this problem than allowing students finding themselves in such a position to sue their school.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:47 am

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Orles wrote:I, for one, get very uncomfortable when I'm looking at someone else's genitals while in a public bathroom and they don't resemble mine.

I feel like there may be a simpler solution to this problem than allowing students finding themselves in such a position to sue their school.

Keep the lights turned off and add tons of handrails and bits of string?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:48 am

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Ifreann wrote:I feel like there may be a simpler solution to this problem than allowing students finding themselves in such a position to sue their school.

Keep the lights turned off and add tons of handrails and bits of string?

Now you're talking.
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Postby Orles » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:50 am

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Ifreann wrote:I feel like there may be a simpler solution to this problem than allowing students finding themselves in such a position to sue their school.

Keep the lights turned off and add tons of handrails and bits of string?

Better put those handrails higher than normal or some confusion may be had.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:53 am

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Edgy Opinions wrote:Oh, the irony. Male and female as lexical items come from French for man and woman.


I am not saying you are wrong, because I don't know, but how did the word 'male' derive from the word 'homme' ?

Male is formed of mal-, the stem of Latin mās, a synonym for homô, the more common Latin word for what was, originally, a human being (later male human beings). Female is from Latin fēmālis, an adjective related to fēmina, classical Latin for woman.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:53 am

I, for one, believe that we should have the right to cup each other's balls (without warning) to make sure there are no trannies lurking in the shadows!
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:54 am

New Frenco Empire wrote:I, for one, believe that we should have the right to cup each other's balls (without warning) to make sure there are no trannies lurking in the shadows!

Only if your hands are warm.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:56 am

Orles wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why does that matter to you? Do you tend to sex* people when they're trying to excrete waste near you?



*sex, verb, to determine the sex of.

I, for one, get very uncomfortable when I'm looking at someone else's genitals while in a public bathroom and they don't resemble mine.

Why do you look? Just get in a damned stall.
New Frenco Empire wrote:I, for one, believe that we should have the right to cup each other's balls (without warning) to make sure there are no trannies lurking in the shadows!

I believe anyone who actually does this should get a kick.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:57 am

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
Orles wrote:I, for one, get very uncomfortable when I'm looking at someone else's genitals while in a public bathroom and they don't resemble mine.

Why do you look? Just get in a damned stall.
New Frenco Empire wrote:I, for one, believe that we should have the right to cup each other's balls (without warning) to make sure there are no trannies lurking in the shadows!

I believe anyone who actually does this should get a kick.

Hmm...you're lookin' a shade of trans, motherfucker! Stay out of my bathroom! I'm too busy inspecting genitals to put up with this shit!
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:01 am

New Frenco Empire wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Why do you look? Just get in a damned stall.

I believe anyone who actually does this should get a kick.

Hmm...you're lookin' a shade of trans, motherfucker! Stay out of my bathroom! I'm too busy inspecting genitals to put up with this shit!

:? Well then...I'd better stuff some marbles in my underwear. That'll give the inspector a surprise.
"You have four balls?!"
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:04 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Can you explain to use why you want people who look like women to be made to use the same bathroom as you?


Because they're of the male sex?

So you see a woman in the bathroom and freak out because LAWS! But then you pull their pants down and are relieved - thank God there is penis. And this is okay...?
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Postby Orles » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:09 am

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:Hmm...you're lookin' a shade of trans, motherfucker! Stay out of my bathroom! I'm too busy inspecting genitals to put up with this shit!

:? Well then...I'd better stuff some marbles in my underwear. That'll give the inspector a surprise.
"You have four balls?!"
"Yeah. Two of 'em are huge marbles."

Even better, use small water balloons so that when the Verifiers of Genital Legitimacy pop them you can sue.
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Postby Fremskrittspartiet » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:20 am

If there is one thing I don't understand is why transgender people should be allowed to use the bathroom they feel comfortable with. It's not like they are whipping out their genital and peeing on the wall, so I don't honestly see how a cis person is supposed to become uncomfortable, because they don't know what genital the person who comes in has. How do you know that that woman over there is transgender? You don't.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:26 am

Orles wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote: :? Well then...I'd better stuff some marbles in my underwear. That'll give the inspector a surprise.
"You have four balls?!"
"Yeah. Two of 'em are huge marbles."

Even better, use small water balloons so that when the Verifiers of Genital Legitimacy pop them you can sue.

Brilliant idea. Now all I have to do is move to Kentucky and file a lawsuit.
Fremskrittspartiet wrote:If there is one thing I don't understand is why transgender people should be allowed to use the bathroom they feel comfortable with. It's not like they are whipping out their genital and peeing on the wall, so I don't honestly see how a cis person is supposed to become uncomfortable, because they don't know what genital the person who comes in has. How do you know that that woman over there is transgender? You don't.

Exactly the point! I suppose transphobes have a rather distorted view of the transgendered.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:27 am

Desperate Measures wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Because they're of the male sex?

So you see a woman in the bathroom and freak out because LAWS! But then you pull their pants down and are relieved - thank God there is penis. And this is okay...?

I would say something here, but it would be flamebaiting and I'd get banned.
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Postby Fremskrittspartiet » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:43 am

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
Orles wrote:Even better, use small water balloons so that when the Verifiers of Genital Legitimacy pop them you can sue.

Brilliant idea. Now all I have to do is move to Kentucky and file a lawsuit.
Fremskrittspartiet wrote:If there is one thing I don't understand is why transgender people should be allowed to use the bathroom they feel comfortable with. It's not like they are whipping out their genital and peeing on the wall, so I don't honestly see how a cis person is supposed to become uncomfortable, because they don't know what genital the person who comes in has. How do you know that that woman over there is transgender? You don't.

Exactly the point! I suppose transphobes have a rather distorted view of the transgendered.


It kinda makes me wonder what transphobes do when they go to the toilet...
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:23 am

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Lunatic Goofballs wrote:"That dude has lady parts! That makes me uncomfortable! He should use the ladies' bathroom instead. I'm sure they'll be fine with it."

What a moron.

Now that is stereotyping, LG. Clearly the man is not a mouthbreathing knuckle dragger, he is just a common conservative. I've been told there is a distinct difference between the two.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:27 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:"That dude has lady parts! That makes me uncomfortable! He should use the ladies' bathroom instead. I'm sure they'll be fine with it."

What a moron.

Not even ones who have lady parts tbh, since this is looking at the school system.

At my college (high school senior equiv.) in the UK, there was a trans guy who used the women's toilets, and no-one cared.
Him going in with a group of girls, and using it as a chatting room per stereotype, might have helped with that tbh.
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Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Now that is stereotyping, LG. Clearly the man is not a mouthbreathing knuckle dragger, he is just a common conservative. I've been told there is a distinct difference between the two.

Goofy senses tingling... :unsure:

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Postby Wombocombo » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:29 am

I keep thinking "Well they should use whatever bathroom they want."
Then I realize if I thought I was female, thats an odd statement,I 'd probably use the male bathroom.
I don't use the bathroom because I think I am a gender.
I do it because I have the appropriate down stairs.
Mostly because urinale master race. (That was sarcasm, I am not intentionally implying a master race between sexes)
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Postby Aahmerica » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:41 am

I'm torn on the subject.
I can respect both arguments. I would definitely be a bit uncomfortable if a transexual (not intending to be offensive ) were in the men's room while I was in there as well. I can see some women being uncomfortable with it as well.
At the same time no one chooses their sex, and if a man/women feels they identify as a women/man then so be it, they shouldn't have to be discriminated agaisnt-even if it is unintentional, sort of.
I can see bullying getting worse, imagine being a male, who identifies as as women, had to use the men's room in high school- when that individual enters there are 3 or 4 bigot scum bags, what do you think will happen?


Although if said individual is post op then I have no issue with then using whatever restroom that correlates with their gender.

Guess I'm just a hypocrite.

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Postby Aahmerica » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:42 am

Wombocombo wrote:I keep thinking "Well they should use whatever bathroom they want."
Then I realize if I thought I was female, thats an odd statement,I 'd probably use the male bathroom.
I don't use the bathroom because I think I am a gender.
I do it because I have the appropriate down stairs.
Mostly because urinale master race. (That was sarcasm, I am not intentionally implying a master race between sexes)


Gotta admit standing up to pee is pretty effective.

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