Supreme Court to Decide on Same-Sex Marriage

[The United Territories of Providence]

I think it's roughly close to a fifty-five - fourty-five chance, the way I personally see it.
The fifty-five being a slight tilt towards deciding to legalize it.

Then why would they have not just ignored the cases as they did before. It's more like 90-10.

You say that, but the court likes to surprise us....Citizens United....

[Estva]

Then why would they have not just ignored the cases as they did before. It's more like 90-10.

You say that, but the court likes to surprise us....Citizens United....

Was not surprising. People seem to forget that the flip of citizens united is regulation of all election funds from any non-profit group down to the $1.

[Herskerstad]

I think it's roughly close to a fifty-five - fourty-five chance, the way I personally see it.
The fifty-five being a slight tilt towards deciding to legalize it.

Then why would they have not just ignored the cases as they did before. It's more like 90-10.

Yeah, given that Anthony Kennedy is virtually only one with a disputed vote, and that I certainly would not consider him a moralist, it is likely going to lean towards a progressive victory.

[Southern Hampshire]

A hypothetical barrier-raise would hurt more than the current barrier-blockade for the few.

Homosexuals cannot procreate. Children are a requirement for marriage, or at least a massive incentive for such.

Really? The two lesbian ladies whose son I was talking to over the weekend would beg to differ.

As I have posted earlier, the notion of two lesbians having a biological child is very recent.

Still, does not solve anything for gay men.

On the other hand, it has been clearly proven that gay marriage is wrong and immoral through the use of magnets. So you all lose and your arguments suck.

[Divitaen]

Really? The two lesbian ladies whose son I was talking to over the weekend would beg to differ.

As I have posted earlier, the notion of two lesbians having a biological child is very recent.

Still, does not solve anything for gay men.

On the other hand, it has been clearly proven that gay marriage is wrong and immoral through the use of magnets. So you all lose and your arguments suck.

I want to post a rebuttal, but I can't even tell if this is satire.

[Neutraligon]

As I have posted earlier, the notion of two lesbians having a biological child is very recent.

Still, does not solve anything for gay men.

On the other hand, it has been clearly proven that gay marriage is wrong and immoral through the use of magnets. So you all lose and your arguments suck.

I want to post a rebuttal, but I can't even tell if this is satire.

I read that article a while back and was both very sad at the state of science in some places and highly amused at the stupidity of it.

[Mike the Progressive]

Really? The two lesbian ladies whose son I was talking to over the weekend would beg to differ.

As I have posted earlier, the notion of two lesbians having a biological child is very recent.

Still, does not solve anything for gay men.

On the other hand, it has been clearly proven that gay marriage is wrong and immoral through the use of magnets. So you all lose and your arguments suck.

What? haha That's really funny and really sad.

[New Italian Republic]

Okay reading the ballots there are a lot of idiots here
Same sex marriage= Same sex Intercourse and that (BLEH) = No reproduction rate = DEATH OF HUMANITY
Lord save me and the 14 people that actually have common sense

this is what i feel the people who passed this law keep doing:

[Divitaen]

I want to post a rebuttal, but I can't even tell if this is satire.

I read that article a while back and was both very sad at the state of science in some places and highly amused at the stupidity of it.

Its honestly retarded. To call it 'science' kills my brain cells. I cannot understand the lengths to which homophobes would go to these days.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Okay reading the ballots there are a lot of idiots here
Same sex marriage= Same sex Intercourse and that (BLEH) = No reproduction rate = DEATH OF HUMANITY
Lord save me and the 14 people that actually have common sense

this is what i feel they keep doing to me:
(Image)

>Says letting gays marry will make everyone gay
>Implies everyone is secretly gay and only holds back because they have to
>Says no gays anywhere have ever had kids
>Implies that he is smarter than everyone who doesn't agree
>Uses horribly broken english
>2legit2quit

[The Alexanderians]

>Says no gays anywhere have ever had kids

To be completely fair it's very likely that they have outside help

[The Nuclear Fist]

>Says no gays anywhere have ever had kids

To be completely fair it's very likely that they have outside help

That would be a fair point were it not retarded.

I never said gays didn't have outside help. Humans aren't whiptail lizards, we can't produce children with homosexual sex. But it's not uncommon for one (or both) partners having cbildren via any manner of ulterior methods. Thus, gays still often have kids.

[Divitaen]

To be completely fair it's very likely that they have outside help

That would be a fair point were it not retarded.

I never said gays didn't have outside help. Humans aren't whiptail lizards, we can't produce children with homosexual sex. But it's not uncommon for one (or both) partners having cbildren via any manner of ulterior methods. Thus, gays still often have kids.

Homosexuals have been raising children even before laws were adopted recognising their existence. Gay families will always be around, like it or not. Whether through adoption, custody or divorce. Not to mention IvF means that even same-sex couples can have children.

[The Nuclear Fist]

That would be a fair point were it not retarded.

I never said gays didn't have outside help. Humans aren't whiptail lizards, we can't produce children with homosexual sex. But it's not uncommon for one (or both) partners having cbildren via any manner of ulterior methods. Thus, gays still often have kids.

Homosexuals have been raising children even before laws were adopted recognising their existence. Gay families will always be around, like it or not. Whether through adoption, custody or divorce. Not to mention IvF means that even same-sex couples can have children.

I wasn't arguing that gays raising children was a new thing. I certainly wasn't arguing that it was a bad thing.

[The Alexanderians]

To be completely fair it's very likely that they have outside help

That would be a fair point were it not retarded.

I never said gays didn't have outside help. Humans aren't whiptail lizards, we can't produce children with homosexual sex. But it's not uncommon for one (or both) partners having cbildren via any manner of ulterior methods. Thus, gays still often have kids.

I'm sorry...what makes it retarded? The rest of your post seems to indicate that you were agreeing with me.

[New Italian Republic]

Okay reading the ballots there are a lot of idiots here
Same sex marriage= Same sex Intercourse and that (BLEH) = No reproduction rate = DEATH OF HUMANITY
Lord save me and the 14 people that actually have common sense

this is what i feel they keep doing to me:
(Image)

>Says letting gays marry will make everyone gay
>Implies everyone is secretly gay and only holds back because they have to
>Says no gays anywhere have ever had kids
>Implies that he is smarter than everyone who doesn't agree
>Uses horribly broken english
>2legit2quit

I am not implying that i am smarter i am just saying that if you do not think it through then you are dumb

[Edgy Opinions]

>Says no gays anywhere have ever had kids

To be completely fair it's very likely that they have outside help

Why do people neglect that trans people are already recognized?

[The Alexanderians]

To be completely fair it's very likely that they have outside help

Why do people neglect that trans people are already recognized?

Because that would have little to do with the current discussion. Sure Transsexuals can also be Homosexual, but they're not the topic of discussion at the moment, homosexuals are. Besides they can't have post op children anyway they're sterile, even more if it's a relationship with a MtF/M or FtM/F then it's a straight relationship.

[Edgy Opinions]

Why do people neglect that trans people are already recognized?

Because that would have little to do with the current discussion. Sure Transsexuals can also be Homosexual, but they're not the topic of discussion at the moment, homosexuals are. Besides they can't have post op children anyway they're sterile, even more if it's a relationship with a MtF/M or FtM/F then it's a straight relationship.

No.

People can change legal gender without surgeries in many places (particularly when it comes to intersex people), transition generally doesn't make trans men sterile (maybe the womb might shoot down in a very long term), and the infertility of trans women is often reversible.

So yes, there are biological children of legally same-sex couples.

Also, cis/trans. The dgab-to-actual gender language represents only a portion of trans people.

[The Nuclear Fist]

>Says letting gays marry will make everyone gay
>Implies everyone is secretly gay and only holds back because they have to
>Says no gays anywhere have ever had kids
>Implies that he is smarter than everyone who doesn't agree
>Uses horribly broken english
>2legit2quit

I am not implying that i am smarter i am just saying that if you do not think it through then you are dumb

Having a terminal lack of self awareness doesn't get you out of having posted rhetoric that logically implied you are smarter than others. Had you bothered to try and comprehend what I was writing, or even do a cursory amount of research into the subject, that might have dawned on you.

It's shit logic, at that. Precisely for the reasons I pointed out.

But here we are. One of us irritated and the other metaphorically standing around with their dick in their hand and claiming to have discovered the logical way to wear pants.

[The Alexanderians]

Because that would have little to do with the current discussion. Sure Transsexuals can also be Homosexual, but they're not the topic of discussion at the moment, homosexuals are. Besides they can't have post op children anyway they're sterile, even more if it's a relationship with a MtF/M or FtM/F then it's a straight relationship.

No.

People can change legal gender without surgeries in many places (particularly when it comes to intersex people), transition generally doesn't make trans men sterile (maybe the womb might shoot down in a very long term), and the infertility of trans women is often reversible.

So yes, there are biological children of legally same-sex couples.

Also, cis/trans. The dgab-to-actual gender language represents only a portion of trans people.

Same-sex and same-gender would be two different thing then. Gender is an identity based on cultural perceptions and resulting personal perceptions of such, sex is based on genetics OR physical characteristics (depends on who you ask). Also please source the part about post ops having children as I doubt very highly that a genetic male (Post op female) could produce viable eggs even with a womb or that a genetic woman (post op male) could produce sperm at all.

[Edgy Opinions]

Same-sex and same-gender would be two different thing then. Gender is an identity based on cultural perceptions and resulting personal perceptions of such, sex is based on genetics OR physical characteristics (depends on who you ask). Also please source the part about post ops having children as I doubt very highly that a genetic male (Post op female) could produce viable eggs even with a womb or that a genetic woman (post op male) could produce sperm at all.

Sex here is used for what you are according to the law. And it's also a very complex mess that isn't actually perfectly objective at all.

That isn't same-sex at all. I mean a trans man and a cis man, or a trans woman and a cis woman. It's foolish to refer to trans people by their DGAB, homosexual relationships in the case of binary folks always refer to their gender identity.

[The Alexanderians]

Same-sex and same-gender would be two different thing then. Gender is an identity based on cultural perceptions and resulting personal perceptions of such, sex is based on genetics OR physical characteristics (depends on who you ask). Also please source the part about post ops having children as I doubt very highly that a genetic male (Post op female) could produce viable eggs even with a womb or that a genetic woman (post op male) could produce sperm at all.

Sex here is used for what you are according to the law. And it's also a very complex mess that isn't actually perfectly objective at all.

That isn't same-sex at all. I mean a trans man and a cis man, or a trans woman and a cis woman. It's foolish to refer to trans people by their DGAB, homosexual relationships in the case of binary folks always refer to their gender identity.

You still haven't provided a source. DGAB according to a quick search is a type of red-dot sight or an acronym meaning "Don't get a boner" so I have no idea what you're actually trying to tell me and this

homosexual relationships in the case of binary folks always refer to their gender identity.

doesn't make grammatical sense and I don't fully understand what you mean could you please restate it? I'd also like to point out that there isn't a universal lawful way to define sex in that case like you said it's a complex mess so I went with the most common one.

[Neu California]

>Says letting gays marry will make everyone gay
>Implies everyone is secretly gay and only holds back because they have to
>Says no gays anywhere have ever had kids
>Implies that he is smarter than everyone who doesn't agree
>Uses horribly broken english
>2legit2quit

I am not implying that i am smarter i am just saying that if you do not think it through then you are dumb

Okay, explain to us why if we legalize same-sex marriage, all opposite-sex intercourse will stop, because that's what your post suggests

[The Nuclear Fist]

I am not implying that i am smarter i am just saying that if you do not think it through then you are dumb

Okay, explain to us why if we legalize same-sex marriage, all opposite-sex intercourse will stop, because that's what your post suggests

Perhaps he believes the only thing that's stopping him from diving into a vast, sweaty sea of manflesh is the knowledge that he can't settle down once the bow leggedness wears off?