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by Liberty and Linguistics » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:28 am
by Seraven » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:31 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.
An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P
by Seraven » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:39 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.
An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P
by Ifreann » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:50 am
Napkiraly wrote:It would explain why Birmingham has been rather sunny of late.
Northumbrian Confederation wrote:I think the military and the police force would have something to say about this if that happened.
by The Princes of the Universe » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:53 am
by Seraven » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:01 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.
An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P
by Baltenstein » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:53 am
by Liberty and Linguistics » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:10 am
by Autonomous Titoists » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:22 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:02 pm
by Hurdegaryp » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:24 pm
Hirota wrote:Who knew - Fox News has the collective intelligence of your average banana. Daily Fail isn't much better
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by Benuty » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:37 pm
by Hurdegaryp » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:38 pm
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by L Ron Cupboard » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:44 pm
by Benuty » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:49 pm
by Scyobayrynn » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:07 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:.... Well, according to Fox News at least.Britain’s legion of amateur satirists reacted with delight to comments by a “terrorism expert” on America’s Fox News channel who said many parts of the U.K., including its second city Birmingham, were Muslim-only areas.
Steve Emerson, who is described on his website as “one of the leading authorities on Islamic extremist networks,” made the announcement in a Jan. 10 interview with the channel on whether Europe was a safe place for non-Muslims.
“In Britain, it’s not just no-go zones, there are actual cities like Birmingham that are totally Muslim where non-Muslims just simply don’t go in,” Emerson said. “Parts of London, there are actually Muslim religious police that actually beat and actually wound seriously anyone who doesn’t dress according to Muslim, religious Muslim attire.”
This came as a surprise to the 78 percent of Birmingham residents who don’t describe themselves as Muslim, and Emerson was quickly mocked on Twitter. People posted pictures of a Mecca Bingo venue as supposed evidence of Birmingham’s Islamic domination, with the hashtag “#foxnewsfacts”. Someone else claimed the city’s BT Tower was in fact the world’s tallest minaret.
Raheb Othmani, a Tunisian engineer, reworked the offer of support made to Muslims in Australia after a gunman took hostages in Sydney in December: “If you are a non-Muslim and would like to visit Birmingham #illridewithyou”
‘Complete Idiot’
Prime Minister David Cameron, whose Conservative Party held its annual conference in Birmingham last year, weighed in during a television interview today. “When I heard this I choked on my porridge and I thought it must be April Fool’s Day,” Cameron told ITV News. “This guy is clearly a complete idiot. He should actually look at Birmingham and see what a fantastic example it is of bringing people together.”
Emerson subsequently apologized for his remarks. “I have clearly made a terrible error for which I am deeply sorry,” he said in a statement on his website. “There was no excuse for making this mistake and I owe an apology to every resident of Birmingham. I am not going to make any excuses.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-1 ... cmpid=yhoo
It appears that I may have to find somewhere else to live, as apparently the city I currently reside in is no longer safe for non-Muslim citizens. You think they might have at least dropped a leaflet or something. "Hi, this is your friendly neighbourhood Jihadi, we're just calling to let you know that this city is now a Muslim only area. You are politely asked to leave the city within the next forty-eight hours, or else we will be forced to cut your head off. Thank you for your cooperation!"
It seems that, in response to the recent tragedy in France, Islamophobia is once again in vogue here in the Western World. I find it deeply concerning- if not surprising- that Fox News, a major news channel in the United States, is peddling this sort of hysteria over Islam to its citizens. The last thing we need in the wake of events like this is to drive a further wedge between Muslim and non-Muslim citizens in Western countries, and yet that is exactly what the media seems intent on doing. It's cynical exploitation of people's fear to increase ratings and I hate it, but it seems to be par for course in the US- at least here in the UK, the fearmongering and dodgy journalism is mostly confined to the newspapers. Mostly.
Speaking of which, it somewhat offends me that an American, on an American news channel, is presenting the city of Birmingham (as well as areas of London and other parts of the UK by implication) as some sort of ethnic ghetto where it's not safe to walk the streets at night. Well, okay, so there's some truth in that, but after the recent race-related riots in America that we've all seen on the news it's hilariously hypocritical for an American to present the United Kingdom as some sort of wartorn nation divided by ethnic struggles. We're doing just fine, thanks, Steve. Perhaps you should think about getting your own house in order before criticising others.
So, NSG, what do we think? Should the US government regulate what can be said on screen by purported "news" channels more strictly, or is it important to allow freedom of speech even when it's blatant fearmongering lies presented as an expert's opinion? Is the UK and the rest of Europe heading towards the scenario outlined by Mr Emerson? Is now the time to panic, or do we need to just keep calm and carry on?
Also, now I get why you all call it "Faux News."
EDIT: Additional sources for the sceptical:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30773297
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/j ... am-muslims
by Katganistan » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:53 pm
The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:Freedom of speech doesn't allow you to shout fire in a movie theatre.
This is the political pundit equivalent of doing that, which Fox is plenty guilty for.
Spreading fear by your words should still be freedom of speech. And yes, that does include shouting fire in a movie theatre.
by The New Sea Territory » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:10 pm
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by Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:25 am
Katganistan wrote:The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Spreading fear by your words should still be freedom of speech. And yes, that does include shouting fire in a movie theatre.
Yes, well, luckily for the rest of us this idiotic idea was shot down by the Supreme Court in 1919 (Schenck v. United States). If speech presents a clear and present danger to the public -- like causing a panic in which people are hurt killed because someone was a dumbass -- that dumbass is going to face the consequences for his actions.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Hurdegaryp » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:32 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Katganistan wrote:Yes, well, luckily for the rest of us this idiotic idea was shot down by the Supreme Court in 1919 (Schenck v. United States). If speech presents a clear and present danger to the public -- like causing a panic in which people are hurt killed because someone was a dumbass -- that dumbass is going to face the consequences for his actions.
Wasn't this what Orson Welles was threatened with for the War of the Worlds broadcast?
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:52 am
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