The Archregimancy wrote:Oh, I'm quite familiar with Scientology precepts, thanks; though we undoubtedly have very different reasons for doing so, I'm quite with you for finding Scientology's core beliefs to be... somewhat unusual. In so far as I've engaged with this thread, I've been trying for that subtle combination of polite and faux naive.
I linked that specific video because it has Hubbard actually speaking, so the OP can't claim it's all lies.
The Archregimancy wrote:Oh, I'm quite familiar with Scientology precepts, thanks; though we undoubtedly have very different reasons for doing so, I'm quite with you for finding Scientology's core beliefs to be... somewhat unusual. In so far as I've engaged with this thread, I've been trying for that subtle combination of polite and faux naive.
I linked that specific video because it has Hubbard actually speaking, so the OP can't claim it's all lies.
To be quite honest, the OP has long since left. And I'm not going to say anything more drastic than a polite observation or a respectful statement of my non-association with the organization.
Because, well, I'm a bit frightened of them.
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The Archregimancy wrote:Scientology, however, demands that you spend years in the organisation and spend vast sums of cash before you can achieve the inner rank of Operating Thetan and discover the 'revealed truths'. I find that .... odd.
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The Archregimancy wrote:Oh, I'm quite familiar with Scientology precepts, thanks; though we undoubtedly have very different reasons for doing so, I'm quite with you for finding Scientology's core beliefs to be... somewhat unusual. In so far as I've engaged with this thread, I've been trying for that subtle combination of polite and faux naive.
I linked that specific video because it has Hubbard actually speaking, so the OP can't claim it's all lies.
To be quite honest, the OP has long since left. And I'm not going to say anything more drastic than a polite observation or a respectful statement of my non-association with the organization.
Because, well, I'm a bit frightened of them.
so you do not want to be labeled a Untermensch by fanatics? Why not... it could be fun.
The Archregimancy wrote:Oh, I'm quite familiar with Scientology precepts, thanks; though we undoubtedly have very different reasons for doing so, I'm quite with you for finding Scientology's core beliefs to be... somewhat unusual. In so far as I've engaged with this thread, I've been trying for that subtle combination of polite and faux naive.
I linked that specific video because it has Hubbard actually speaking, so the OP can't claim it's all lies.
To be quite honest, the OP has long since left. And I'm not going to say anything more drastic than a polite observation or a respectful statement of my non-association with the organization.
Because, well, I'm a bit frightened of them.
so you do not want to be labeled a Untermensch by fanatics? Why not... it could be fun.
All I know is that they have... "resources". Uh... Oh God, I've said too much!
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UAWC wrote:Once, I heard this story about a guy who had schizophrenia in a Scientologist family. His mother would not let him get meds. One day when he was all whacked out, he got out of the shower and stabbed his mother about 75 times. I could be wrong about the number of stabs, but...yeah.
Indeed. Manic Depression is a farce. As they preach; you only need exercise and take vitamins and there is their technology that will fix it......
Scientolgists have the technology? Will they rebuild me? Make me faster, better, stronger?
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Just remember, no one likes an asshole. Don't make me serious. You wouldn't like me when I'm serious.
Saaturia wrote:To be quite honest, the OP has long since left. And I'm not going to say anything more drastic than a polite observation or a respectful statement of my non-association with the organization.
Because, well, I'm a bit frightened of them.
Pity, I was going to propose American Wang Car has to mud wrestle Kilo Mike Alpha and last 5 rounds to earn his local street preacher spot.
I'd put money down on KMA, as I don't think AMC can hope to match KMA's stamina.
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American Wang Car wrote:I was a heavy cocaine user for 20 years and Scientology saved my life. You don't have to belief everything what you read in the media 'bout Scientology, most of it is untrue. About the things that are true, I can tell you that there are bad apples in every big organisation or club. Are all the forum people here honest, cute and lovely? No, they are not. Some people are big liars!
That's awesome that you're off drugs! I'm glad you're clean and sober!
I have nothing against Scientology, rather I have a huge issue with the Church Of Scientology and David Miscavige.
I live in central Florida and have many Scientologist friends. I have even read a few books by LRH. However, I am a Nyingmapa Tibetan Buddhist. But I recognize the parallels between Scientology and Buddhism, seeing as LRH spent a lot of time in Asia, learning from monks and what not...
Again, I'm happy for your sobriety, and that Scientology has helped you.
My only advice is: THINK FOR YOURSELF.
Also, You can get a lot of The Tech online FOR FREE
Personally some scientology beliefs are whacko but every religion has crap only religious weirdos can believe. Like how can their not be mnetal disabilities.
I have Asperger Syndronme,Are You Calling Me A Sinning Liar?
The Archregimancy wrote:From a purely theological perspective, one of the things I find curious about Scientology is that most modern belief systems can't wait to tell you the 'good news' about their revelation from the very beginning. It would be hard to imagine converts to Christianity, Islam, or Buddhism (taking just three examples) converting without knowing from the beginning that Jesus is the Son of God who died for our sins / Allah is the One True God and Mohammed [PBUH] is His Prophet / a negation of being and an end to suffering awaits those who achieve enlightenment; except for certain fringe groups, paying large sums of cash for the privilege of being told this is rarely a requirement.
Scientology, however, demands that you spend years in the organisation and spend vast sums of cash before you can achieve the inner rank of Operating Thetan and discover the 'revealed truths'. I find that .... odd.
But perhaps I'm being cynical.
I'm not sure if there is a psychological term for it, but people do value things they had to pay for, more than the same thing they got for free.
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Tanya Plibersek Mon 22 Feb 2010 wrote:"Tony is the 'Mark Latham' of the Liberal Party.
Rambhutan wrote:Wow, is this the return of Valentin 'Valentinasia' Selezynov? Do we finally geto to hear the full theory of how the moon was used to seed life on earth?
The possibility of puppetry has been considered, but no, Valentasia isn't the prime suspect. Pity too. He was delightfully entertaining.
Both openly declared that they had bad coke habits before getting into Scientology. The slightly stilted English is like Val's (ie, acceptable but sometimes word order is like the grammar of French).
And I'm sure you've considered the homophone of American Wang Car ... Valentinasia also liked to tease US Americans.
Without any modly powers (ie, completely guessing) my cookie is on Hairless Kittens imitating Valentinasia.
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Mean Feat wrote:The Latham of the Liberals. Tony Abbott.
Tanya Plibersek Mon 22 Feb 2010 wrote:"Tony is the 'Mark Latham' of the Liberal Party.
Rambhutan wrote:Wow, is this the return of Valentin 'Valentinasia' Selezynov? Do we finally geto to hear the full theory of how the moon was used to seed life on earth?
The possibility of puppetry has been considered, but no, Valentasia isn't the prime suspect. Pity too. He was delightfully entertaining.
Both openly declared that they had bad coke habits before getting into Scientology. The slightly stilted English is like Val's (ie, acceptable but sometimes word order is like the grammar of French).
And I'm sure you've considered the homophone of American Wang Car ... Valentinasia also liked to tease US Americans.
Without any modly powers (ie, completely guessing) my cookie is on Hairless Kittens imitating Valentinasia.
Moot point. He's DoS for another issue. Btw, HK was my prime suspect.
I'm gonna lock this.
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