NationStates' Transgender Thread

[Val Halla]

I have. I don't think there's much he can do

What did he say when you asked him?

He didn't really say anything. When I did, I was emotional and I said a lot

[Grenartia]

What did he say when you asked him?

He didn't really say anything. When I did, I was emotional and I said a lot

He had to have said something.

[Val Halla]

He didn't really say anything. When I did, I was emotional and I said a lot

He had to have said something.

Not in response to that

[Grenartia]

He had to have said something.

Not in response to that

Well, ask again, and get one.

[Val Halla]

Not in response to that

Well, ask again, and get one.

I might. Worry is, Dad will cancel GIDS

[Grenartia]

Well, ask again, and get one.

I might. Worry is, Dad will cancel GIDS

That's the point of asking, is to make it so that you can get it without them.

[Val Halla]

I might. Worry is, Dad will cancel GIDS

That's the point of asking, is to make it so that you can get it without them.

Oh, you can't.

[Grenartia]

That's the point of asking, is to make it so that you can get it without them.

Oh, you can't.

Says who?

[Val Halla]

Oh, you can't.

Says who?

Says everyone, GIDS included

[Grenartia]

Says who?

Says everyone, GIDS included

Why do they say it?

[Val Halla]

Says everyone, GIDS included

Why do they say it?

Because it's the truth?

[Grenartia]

Why do they say it?

Because it's the truth?

You know what I was getting at.

[Val Halla]

Because it's the truth?

You know what I was getting at.

Well, evidently not.

[Nature-Spirits]

It was un fucking called for. Not only that, but they were talking shit about me the whole time. They took me to the exact kind of thing my counsellor said not to take me to.

Which is?

Yeah, maybe it is unfucking called for. But in the years since it happened to me (actually, it only took me a month to realize it), I've realized they can get fucked with a rusty acid lubed cactus for all I care. And maybe they're right. Maybe I'm not part of their family. Why would I want to be? I'm still considered family to the family members of mine who actually fucking give a shit about me.

Precisely. Personally, I've disowned literally an entire side of my family (i.e. my paternal family), as well as certain elements of my maternal family. Toxic people who don't care about me don't deserve my love and attention. *shrug* It's as simple as that. And I mean, yeah, it's different when you actually have to live with the people, but I still don't see why you would view them as anything more than roommates or landlords.

You know what I was getting at.

Well, evidently not.

Look. There's no way that you absolutely need a parent to sign off on it. Where I am, you can get HRT without parental approval once you're 16; there's gotta be a similar policy in the UK.

[Val Halla]

Which is?

Yeah, maybe it is unfucking called for. But in the years since it happened to me (actually, it only took me a month to realize it), I've realized they can get fucked with a rusty acid lubed cactus for all I care. And maybe they're right. Maybe I'm not part of their family. Why would I want to be? I'm still considered family to the family members of mine who actually fucking give a shit about me.

Precisely. Personally, I've disowned literally an entire side of my family (i.e. my paternal family), as well as certain elements of my maternal family. Toxic people who don't care about me don't deserve my love and attention. *shrug* It's as simple as that. And I mean, yeah, it's different when you actually have to live with the people, but I still don't see why you would view them as anything more than roommates or landlords.

Well, evidently not.

Look. There's no way that you absolutely need a parent to sign off on it. Where I am, you can get HRT without parental approval once you're 16; there's gotta be a similar policy in the UK.

Ok. I'm pretty sure you can't get hrt until you're 18. Only blockers.

And there isn't. Trans therapy is the one exception.

[Nature-Spirits]

Precisely. Personally, I've disowned literally an entire side of my family (i.e. my paternal family), as well as certain elements of my maternal family. Toxic people who don't care about me don't deserve my love and attention. *shrug* It's as simple as that. And I mean, yeah, it's different when you actually have to live with the people, but I still don't see why you would view them as anything more than roommates or landlords.


Look. There's no way that you absolutely need a parent to sign off on it. Where I am, you can get HRT without parental approval once you're 16; there's gotta be a similar policy in the UK.

Ok. I'm pretty sure you can't get hrt until you're 18. Only blockers.

And there isn't. Trans therapy is the one exception.

... Blockers are pretty useless when puberty's practically over. But okay.

I think you should do more research on that before coming to a conclusion and thinking everything's hopeless. Seriously, ask the guy you talked to about the specifics. It can't hurt to at least ask.

[Val Halla]

Ok. I'm pretty sure you can't get hrt until you're 18. Only blockers.

And there isn't. Trans therapy is the one exception.

... Blockers are pretty useless when puberty's practically over. But okay.

I think you should do more research on that before coming to a conclusion and thinking everything's hopeless. Seriously, ask the guy you talked to about the specifics. It can't hurt to at least ask.

The guy has told me. He told me blockers. And trans therapy is the one thing you can't do for yourself 16-18. He told me that too

[Nature-Spirits]

... Blockers are pretty useless when puberty's practically over. But okay.

I think you should do more research on that before coming to a conclusion and thinking everything's hopeless. Seriously, ask the guy you talked to about the specifics. It can't hurt to at least ask.

The guy has told me. He told me blockers. And trans therapy is the one thing you can't do for yourself 16-18. He told me that too

Well, either way, I would ask again, just to be sure. It can't hurt.

[Val Halla]

The guy has told me. He told me blockers. And trans therapy is the one thing you can't do for yourself 16-18. He told me that too

Well, either way, I would ask again, just to be sure. It can't hurt.

I am sure... I think I know what he said. I'm lucky to be even going, though lack of family support will stop me

[Nature-Spirits]

Well, either way, I would ask again, just to be sure. It can't hurt.

I am sure... I think I know what he said. I'm lucky to be even going, though lack of family support will stop me

Still, I would ask again. I don't see why you're so hesitant to confirm. The worst that can happen is that your suspicions will be confirmed. The best that can happen is that he'll tell you that you actually don't need your family as much as you thought.

[Val Halla]

I am sure... I think I know what he said. I'm lucky to be even going, though lack of family support will stop me

Still, I would ask again. I don't see why you're so hesitant to confirm. The worst that can happen is that your suspicions will be confirmed. The best that can happen is that he'll tell you that you actually don't need your family as much as you thought.

Fine, if only to prove my point. I know what he said

[Nature-Spirits]

Still, I would ask again. I don't see why you're so hesitant to confirm. The worst that can happen is that your suspicions will be confirmed. The best that can happen is that he'll tell you that you actually don't need your family as much as you thought.

Fine, if only to prove my point. I know what he said

Thank you. Even if you're right (which you very while might be), it really can't do you any harm to just ask.

[Val Halla]

Fine, if only to prove my point. I know what he said

Thank you. Even if you're right (which you very while might be), it really can't do you any harm to just ask.

The letter makes it clear to me

[Nature-Spirits]

Well.

I can't say I'm surprised; Caitlyn is far richer than the vast majority of trans people, so really, saying that she lives in a bubble seems to be quite an accurate description.

[Vassenor]

Well.

I can't say I'm surprised; Caitlyn is far richer than the vast majority of trans people, so really, saying that she lives in a bubble seems to be quite an accurate description.

Maybe we need to stop putting her on a plinth as a shining example. Since the vast majority of individuals don't have access to the same resources for SRS and related procedures that she did.