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Postby Larthinia » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:07 am

That is horrible. I am sorry for that man. R.I.P.
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Postby Novaya Equestria » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:17 am

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Postby Luziyca » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:13 am

That is quite sad. May he rest in peace.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:37 am

WestRedMaple wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I have no idea what answer you expect beyond what I have already provided.


I didn't say I expected anything. The fact remains that you're still refusing to answer the question. It isn't particularly difficult in my opinion.

And I answered you twice but you didn't like the answer I gave.

How would you equip them to better handle such a situation? What tools, be they procedures, weapons, training, etc, would you provide to better equip them for such a situation?

I want to say the same thing I already have, but I feel like that would upset you.


Nickel Empire wrote:At least he is not suffering anymore.

He could have been alive and not suffering.


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This is tragic for all parties involved, the man, his family, and the officers who had to shoot him.


Salandriagado wrote:
Tasers would be a good start.

Unreliable, limited range, and they can also end up killing people.

Ifreann wrote:I have no idea what answer you expect beyond what I have already provided.


You're basically proposing we give cops psychic powers. You're not actually proposing anything, you're just saying "equip them better" because you seem unable to confront the reality that sometimes police officers have to kill people, both in this thread and in others.

So, because I want the police to be better able to arrest people rather than kill them, I'm expected to know how they could accomplish that? Why would I know that?
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Postby WestRedMaple » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:32 am

Ifreann wrote:And I answered you twice but you didn't like the answer I gave.


You, in fact, did not answer. You STILL haven't.


Ifreann wrote:I want to say the same thing I already have, but I feel like that would upset you.


Novel idea here....why don't you try actually answering the question for once? If you're not going to answer it, then maybe try saying so and even explaining why. If you really just don't feel like interacting, then just don't respond.


This refusing to answer while falsely claiming to have done so is about the lousiest way of going about it

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:37 am

We can't know whether the shooting was justified because we don't know the man's race. Whether the police made choices based on the information they had and acted reasonably or are psychotic murderers entertaining themselves by shooting the unarmed is dictated solely by the color of the victims skin.

Of course since his race wasn't treated as news worthy I'm going to assume he was white.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:43 am

Ifreann wrote:So, because I want the police to be better able to arrest people rather than kill them, I'm expected to know how they could accomplish that? Why would I know that?


I think they make dogs that can drive so you have a designated driver you can also play fetch with. I have no idea how that would work but I'm going to be furious until it happens.
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