New Greek elections

[Southern Hampshire]

It doesn't make the argument an inherently bad one.

Did it ever work out?

Did authoritarianism in places of communist rises work out? Well, yeah, plenty of instances. Chile, Italy, Hong Kong.

Will a fascist Greece be succesful?

No it won't. But it will break Greece less than a communist Greece.

[European Socialist Republic]

Vote for the 'National Hope' Party.

Too late. The election is already over.

[Jackonia]

Only because they are Royalist.

[Southern Hampshire]

Only because they are Royalist.

Who do they intend to put on the throne?

[Greater-London]

Who do they intend to put on the throne?

King Constantine II is still alive, so have him back?

[European Socialist Republic]

Only because they are Royalist.

Greece has no money to pay for a royal family.

[Geilinor]

Democracy only works when people aren't stupid.

So Greeks are stupid?

[Greater-London]

Greece has no money to pay for a royal family.

Royals are only as expensive as you want them to be. They needn't be more than a president.

[Geilinor]

Greece has no money to pay for a royal family.

They needn't be more than a president.

Or you keep the word "president".

[Jackonia]

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Only because they are Royalist.

Who do they intend to put on the throne?

No idea. Their Websites in Greek. Can't read Greek.

[Greater-London]

Or you keep the word "president".

You could, you can call them whatever you want. Not that I'm advocating the restoration of the Greek monarch.

[Baltenstein]

Who do they intend to put on the throne?

King Constantine II is still alive, so have him back?

He's a moron.

I'd also like to point out that because ANEL is opposed to austerity, some have said that SYRIZA should team up with them. It won't happen, ANEL is very, very socially and culturally conservative.

ANEL's anti-austerity stance is the reason Tsipras has established an informal link with them since 2012. He has said that there are "worlds" between him and Panos Kammenos on most topics, but that they find some common ground on their rejection of austerity, hinting that some government cooperation might be possible.
To be honest, I don't like this. It's a minus point, but on the other hand, Tsipras has to find a coalition partner to secure those 150+ seats. Personally, I'd prefer To Potami, but it will be up to Tsipras.

[European Socialist Republic]

They needn't be more than a president.

Or you keep the word "president".

Or Greece could sell noble titles.

[Sebastianbourg]

Did it ever work out?
Will a fascist Greece be succesful?

Fascism will never be succesful.

I'm not declaring my support for such a cause; I was simply trying to say something is not inherently bad or wrong because Hitler said it. In most cases, it'll will probably be wrong but definitely not in all.

[Southern Hampshire]

Democracy only works when people aren't stupid.

So Greeks are stupid?

Their political choices are.

Who do they intend to put on the throne?

King Constantine II is still alive, so have him back?

It's a bit weird taking someone back after he was subjected to a referendum which basically told him to 'gtfo' though, isn't it?

I also find the concept of coming up to a commoner and saying 'Hey, you're our new King and your children shall have privileges' a bit weird. I mean, it wasn't really a tradition. I'll give you the exception that he was King before. Still find it weird though.

[Baltenstein]

Greece already had a Fascist regime twice; we don't need a third try.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

On a related note, there is a plan for former (or soon to be reinstated) workers to storm the Radiomegaron building and reinstate ERT: SYRIZA is promising that ERT will return, but I think they're likely to put such a declaration in the Government Gazette first, like what ND did when they announced the closure of ERT.

[Chestaan]

Except the problem is that Greek debt is denominated in euro, not a hypothetical Greek controlled currency. Printing money would do nothing to lower the debt.

Printing money = more inflation = lessens debt burdens, the same way smaller supply of money = more deflation = raises debt burden. IIRC. But yeah, it's not exactly going to cancel all Greek debt, and the size of the deficit would hugely outweigh the inflation, so it doesn't do much, after all.

I'm more talking about the traditional way of paying off debt by putting the printing press into overdrive. If Greece leaves the euro they can print money, but that will only cause inflation in a hypothetical new Greek currency, not in euro. Greek government bonds are denominated in euros, so devaluing a Greek currency wouldn't affect the debt at all.

[Camelza]

Greece already had a Fascist regime twice; we don't need a third try.

Nor is it realistic enough to be even considered.

[Natapoc]

Greece already had a Fascist regime twice; we don't need a third try.

Syriza is not fascist and most Greek people don't support Golden Dawn.

Austerity is what has fueled increased support for the fascist parties and so as long as Syriza fulfills their campaign promises you should see a decline in support for Golden Dawn over time.

[Natapoc]

Printing money = more inflation = lessens debt burdens, the same way smaller supply of money = more deflation = raises debt burden. IIRC. But yeah, it's not exactly going to cancel all Greek debt, and the size of the deficit would hugely outweigh the inflation, so it doesn't do much, after all.

I'm more talking about the traditional way of paying off debt by putting the printing press into overdrive. If Greece leaves the euro they can print money, but that will only cause inflation in a hypothetical new Greek currency, not in euro. Greek government bonds are denominated in euros, so devaluing a Greek currency wouldn't affect the debt at all.

The debt only exists as long as Greece decides it exists. There is no need to print more money to pay for it. Greece has tremendous leverage especially right now.

[Busen]

He's a moron.

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What did he wrong that you consider him a moron?

I mean from poistion of the Greeks it is much better having a monarch than an unelected president.

[Camelza]

Did it ever work out?

Did authoritarianism in places of communist rises work out? Well, yeah, plenty of instances. Chile, Italy, Hong Kong.

Chile; Only if you consider rape-dogs and tremendous social division a success.
Italy; Fascism in Italy is responsible for everything that Italy lost( infrastructures, human lives, dignity) during the war that fascism dragged Italy in.
Hong-Kong was never fascist.

[European Socialist Republic]

He's a moron.

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What did he wrong that you consider him a moron?

I mean from poistion of the Greeks it is much better having a monarch than an unelected president.

The monarch is unelected. The president is elected by the parliament.

[Greater-London]

It's a bit weird taking someone back after he was subjected to a referendum which basically told him to 'gtfo' though, isn't it?

I also find the concept of coming up to a commoner and saying 'Hey, you're our new King and your children shall have privileges' a bit weird. I mean, it wasn't really a tradition. I'll give you the exception that he was King before. Still find it weird though.

Oh I agree. To be fair I think opinions on him in Greece have eased over time; he was too involved with the Military Junta and getting rid of him created a break with the past. Similar to the referendum on the monarchy in Italy.

Not that you need to have him though, he has children and grandchildren I think as well.

If your going to have a monarch he (or his family) are the only ones. Not that I advocate the restoration of the monarchy in Greece.