by Evil the Great » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:04 am
by Badakhishan » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:26 am
by Evil the Great » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:26 am
by Evil the Great » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:28 am
Badakhishan wrote:More "ALL MUUZLEEMZ ARE EBIL"
This man has no idea what ISLAM means.
1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”
4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national jurisconsult.
5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida 5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d. 464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking money, killing people or violating what God has made it unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those who harm you and is said to have commanded, “Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]
10. The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise if they believe and do good works, and commends Christians as the best friends of Muslims. I wrote elsewhere, “Dangerous falsehoods are being promulgated to the American public. The Quran does not preach violence against Christians.
by Sebastianbourg » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:51 am
Evil the Great wrote:I hope you guys don't believe I'm a conspirationist when I mentioned the Radical Party's freemasons. These guys were right.
by Badakhishan » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:55 am
Lordieth wrote:Clearly this is a time for reactionary laws that restrict civil liberties.
by Sebastianbourg » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:56 am
by Valaran » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:05 am
Evil the Great wrote:Nobody gives a shit? That's a major problem. We're most likely the country that has the biggest number of citizens in ISIS...
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Iwassoclose » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:06 am
While politicians from the FN suggested taking away the french citizenship of those gone to fight in Syria, and arresting those who come home, the rest of the so-called political elite is being silent, even denying that there is a problem related to Islam within the french society, and that answers should be quicly looked for.
by Evil the Great » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:16 am
Valaran wrote:For the record the nation with the most foreign fighters in IS is Tunisia.
Sebastianbourg wrote:Not all all. I hold Freemasons in high regard.
Iwassoclose wrote:One should only have to look at Denmark to look at what happens when they deny the problem and act like everything is alright when people come back from Syria/Iraq.
by The Kievan People » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:19 am
Evil the Great wrote:Nobody gives a shit? That's a major problem. We're most likely the country that has the biggest number of citizens in ISIS...
by Earl of Sandwich IV » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:21 am
by Evil the Great » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:24 am
The Kievan People wrote:It's not really surprising that it happened and it will happen again... so what is there to say?
by Badakhishan » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:26 am
Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:It's a major problem that the mainstream parties in europe have never seriously dealt with muslim immigration. People who are concerned about radical Islam and mass immigration have always been mocked by them. That's why the radical right is able to step in.
by Valaran » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:26 am
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Martean » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:27 am
by Valaran » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:28 am
Badakhishan wrote:Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:It's a major problem that the mainstream parties in europe have never seriously dealt with muslim immigration. People who are concerned about radical Islam and mass immigration have always been mocked by them. That's why the radical right is able to step in.
Haha.
No.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Fortschritte » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:30 am
Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:It's a major problem that the mainstream parties in europe have never seriously dealt with muslim immigration. People who are concerned about radical Islam and mass immigration have always been mocked by them. That's why the radical right is able to step in.
by Fortschritte » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:30 am
by Evil the Great » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:31 am
Valaran wrote:
Ah, ok.
Yeah, from just the Western nations (excluding Russia) France does have the highest number of IS fighters
by Badakhishan » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:31 am
Fortschritte wrote:Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:It's a major problem that the mainstream parties in europe have never seriously dealt with muslim immigration. People who are concerned about radical Islam and mass immigration have always been mocked by them. That's why the radical right is able to step in.
Muslim immigration is not a problem. Radicalism is, and curbing immigration will not stop radicalism. The radical right, on the other hand, is a problem since it uses fearmongering and populism to win votes.
by Valaran » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:32 am
Fortschritte wrote:Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:It's a major problem that the mainstream parties in europe have never seriously dealt with muslim immigration. People who are concerned about radical Islam and mass immigration have always been mocked by them. That's why the radical right is able to step in.
Muslim immigration is not a problem. Radicalism is, and curbing immigration will not stop radicalism. The radical right, on the other hand, is a problem since it uses fearmongering and populism to win votes.
Evil the Great wrote:Valaran wrote:
Ah, ok.
Yeah, from just the Western nations (excluding Russia) France does have the highest number of IS fighters
Yep, indeed Russians don't really see themselves as westerners. Most of their IS fighters are from the Caucasus. And Chechnya.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Fortschritte » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:33 am
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