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Which do you say?

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, or other applicable holiday greetings based on the persons religion
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Happy holidays, seasons greetings, or other generic secular greetings
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:21 pm

It only matters to people who are bound and determined to be offended.

"Have a great holiday" is one size fits all. I seriously don't care if someone wishes me a Happy Passover, Happy Easter, or a great Vernal Equinox. It's the thought that counts.

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Postby Manisdog » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:25 pm

Modi cancelled Christmas, I think it is a good thing because I doubt that christian countries would celebrate Diwali or even know what it means that being said I don't want Diwali to be a holiday too

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Postby Planita » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:28 pm

Tyrinth wrote:I'm not even religious, and to me all of this, "Oh, you can't say Christmas! It's, 'Happy holidays,'" stuff is just ridiculous.

Acknowledging Christmas does not mean disregarding the other holidays. They can all exist in harmony.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:29 pm

Tyrinth wrote:I'm not even religious, and to me all of this, "Oh, you can't say Christmas! It's, 'Happy holidays,'" stuff is just ridiculous.

Acknowledging Christmas does not mean disregarding the other holidays. They can all exist in harmony.


And conversely, acknowledging the other holidays does not mean "a war on christmas" ;)
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Postby The Derpy Dominion » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:31 pm

Who cares, say whatever you want. It is stupid how everyone gets offended by this crap.
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:36 pm

Happy Holidays is about as jolly as eating a boiled egg without the yolk.

I'd rather just say nothing that circulate that PC pablum.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:40 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Happy Holidays is about as jolly as eating a boiled egg without the yolk.

I'd rather just say nothing that circulate that PC pablum.


Because if christianity can not be the only thing getting respect and attention nobody should get it.
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Postby 0507011209200118090114 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:51 pm

I believe that If it isn't Christmas day, there is no legitimate reason to exclaim "Merry Christmas". The month of December, however, is a month of major holidays all bearing a similar theme, rendering "Happy Holidays" as the more appropriate phrase.

This is an opinion produced not by political correctness, but by reason and logic.

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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:59 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Happy Holidays is about as jolly as eating a boiled egg without the yolk.

I'd rather just say nothing that circulate that PC pablum.


Because if christianity can not be the only thing getting respect and attention nobody should get it.


There's an example. You would not attack me if I were saying Happy Chanukkah. "Nobody should get it?" I don't get it. If I KNOW you do not celebrate a particular holiday, I will not burden you with an unwanted greeting. But otherwise, why should I be untrue to my own roots?
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Postby Penguin Union Nation » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:03 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Happy Holidays is about as jolly as eating a boiled egg without the yolk.

I'd rather just say nothing that circulate that PC pablum.


People have been saying "happy holidays" for longer than political correctness really took hold. Plenty of devout Christians found no problem with "happy holidays" for decades until fundamentalist right-wingers made it a sticking point because they saw their grip on society loosening.

Actually "happy holidays" has been used as far back as the late 1800s. So, yeah, the whole "happy holidays" controversy is complete and utter nonsense.
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Postby Antarctican Cardinals » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:14 pm

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Burleson 2 wrote:It's time to stop worrying about being sensitive to a rare few, and worry about honoring God in the way he deserves to be.


Oh yes, because nothing says 'getting back to our Christian roots' quite like a holiday that revolves around an immortal fairy prince who delivers presents from his magical kingdom at the North Pole and with the aid of an army of elves and flying reindeer.

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Postby Benuty » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:45 pm

The Lotophagi wrote:
Burleson 2 wrote:It's time to stop worrying about being sensitive to a rare few, and worry about honoring God in the way he deserves to be.


Oh yes, because nothing says 'getting back to our Christian roots' quite like a holiday that revolves around an immortal fairy prince who delivers presents from his magical kingdom at the North Pole and with the aid of an army of elves and flying reindeer.

I guarentee you in 2,000 years people will intermix Jesus Christ, and Santa Claus as theological canon. Thus Heaven is in the North Pole.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:49 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Happy Holidays is about as jolly as eating a boiled egg without the yolk.

I'd rather just say nothing that circulate that PC pablum.

Yep, because nothing says "Scrooge" quite like making sure everyone is included.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:57 pm

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In all actuality it doesn't really matter at all over here. Most people probably use "kerstdagen" ("Christmas days") and "feestdagen" (holidays) somewhat interchangeably. I don't really use either, because we don't really celebrate Christmas in my direct family.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:12 pm

Hi,

Regarding your forum thread "Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays", I don't celebrate it at all and I am no Scrooge for refusing to do so. ;)

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Postby Israel XVI » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:06 pm

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Israel XVI wrote:Either way. Whatever floats your boat is okay, which I really couldn't care less for.

Though I still prefer that Christmas be referred as more secularist than it originally did due to the fact that we use non-christian symbols more than christian symbols.

Didn't you hear? Kirk Cameron sorted that all out.

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Postby Malavya » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:12 pm

I say Merry Christmas.
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Postby Zakuvia » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:40 pm

I feel that Happy Holidays is all well and good, but don't ban people for saying Merry (insert specific religious event). Let's face facts, the government doesn't close once in December for 'the Holidays', it closes for Christmas Day. Let that simply be put out. Merry Christmas. There is nothing offensive in this statement whatsoever, other than people with severe persecution complexes hanging on everything from the Crusades to Slavery.

It honestly goes both ways, with the fundamentalists saying that Merry Christmas should be chiseled in immovable stone on every federal building, to anarchical atheists saying that even mentioning that there are holidays is a personal invasion of their choice to not choose.

Can't we all just get along. Like, y'know, with some peace on Earth, and good will to mankind?
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Postby Greater Secular States » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:56 pm

Personally, I prefer Happy Holidays, I don't mind if anyone says Merry Christmas or Happy Hanuhhak. I just correct them sometimes, but I say happy holidays.
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Postby Gezi Park » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:00 pm

I celebrate both, and I'm not a Christianity or anything. I think Christmas is not all that a religious thing, it's not even derived from Christianity
itself, but from pagan traditions. It has become popular amongst many people in regardless to their religious beliefs. I also think Hanukkah should evolve into such a thing as well, we have relatives of Jewish descent and we celebrate it along with them, quite fun.

I don't mind saying "Merry Christmas", it's sounds nice.

Looking forward to partying like crazy 8)
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Postby Benuty » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:28 pm

Gezi Park wrote:I celebrate both, and I'm not a Christianity or anything. I think Christmas is not all that a religious thing, it's not even derived from Christianity
itself, but from pagan traditions. It has become popular amongst many people in regardless to their religious beliefs. I also think Hanukkah should evolve into such a thing as well, we have relatives of Jewish descent and we celebrate it along with them, quite fun.

I don't mind saying "Merry Christmas", it's sounds nice.

Looking forward to partying like crazy 8)


Kind of hard to turn an event concerning religious rebels from Judea involved in the defense of Jerusalem, and centering itself of cleansing the Second Temple as secular.

I hardly wish for the secular Hebrews (aka Canaanites) to turn a purely religious holiday into theirs. They have Israel for that.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:32 pm

Gezi Park wrote:I celebrate both, and I'm not a Christianity or anything. I think Christmas is not all that a religious thing, it's not even derived from Christianity
itself, but from pagan traditions. It has become popular amongst many people in regardless to their religious beliefs. I also think Hanukkah should evolve into such a thing as well, we have relatives of Jewish descent and we celebrate it along with them, quite fun.

I don't mind saying "Merry Christmas", it's sounds nice.

Looking forward to partying like crazy 8)


On the issue of Christmas's origins...given it started as a feast for the Christian liturgical year in the 4th Century C.E that in, and of itself is incredibly hard to dispute.

I mean sure as it became a "celebratory buffet" of different cultural traditions from more polytheistic areas then sure you could argue a split occurred allowing for a more appropriate universality (and therefore secular approach) to be taken into account.
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Postby Scyobayrynn » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:00 pm

Seasonally appropriate greeting for you to whomever.

If you are an Atheist lets say, and we meet and I say "Merry Christmas and you reply Seasons Greetings" or maybe you are feeling especially tolerant that day and you say "Happy Holidays" since the word word Holiday is derived from Holy Day, I know many Atheists dislike its use.

I am not going to be pissed you didnt share my particular religious pick.

Or if a Jew looks at me and says "Happy Chanukkah" I might reply "Merry Christmas" -- but the real point here isnt "Oh people are pushing their religion/non-religion on me bahbawwwbah bwhabububububub".
Its people for one brief period for WHATEVER reason wanting perfect strangers to have a good day.
I think the best solution is when someone offers well wishes of any type, we keep our trollface dickhead opinions to our selves and be happy for a few positive waves being broadcast in a world its so seldom they are.

So Merry Christmas, Merry Milad un Nabi, Happy Chanikkah, Happy Kwanzaa, Merry Saturnalia, Happy belated Bodhi Day, Merry Pancha Ganapati, Merry Malkh, Have a Festive Festivus!, Happy Modraniht, Glorious Yalda, Happy Boxing Day etc etc


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Postby UBS » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:03 pm

i have a middle ground. HAPPY SHUT THE HELL UP

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Postby UBS » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:03 pm

i mean really who cares what you say

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