Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays

by **Benuty** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:07 pm

Charellia wrote:
Benuty wrote:The War on Christmas is as about as relevant as the debate concerning the legality of abortion.

At least abortion deals with important issues. The War on Christmas is just pointless.

The point being, the matter is solved (Abortion is here to stay alongside linguistic prescriptivism). Yet people seem hell bent on whipping that poor bastard horse out of the grave.

by **Napkiraly** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:09 pm

Maybe allow people to say either or. Whichever they prefer. And not getting all fissy over it.

by **The Nuclear Fist** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:09 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:B-but muh Kurschin valoos ain't bein' respected.

I wasn't aware they were the genital envious President of Argentina?

That's Kirchner, not Kurschin.

by **Benuty** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:10 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Maybe allow people to say either or. Whichever they prefer. And not getting all fissy over it.

People should focus on the fact Bill O'Reilly has wet dreams about assassinating Presidents, and according to his new book..Patton.

by **Ifreann** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:11 pm

Teemant wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:No one is trying to "militantly" secularize Christmas (even though it has been a mostly secular holiday for years now anyway). It is just a trivial non issue that for some reason keeps being treated like a war on religion.

So what's next?

Do supermarkets and fast food chains must stop selling food when some religious group has fasting. Because it would be offensive to sell food during this time...

If store wants to write Merry Christmas on a banner they have every right to do so.

And if they want a banner saying "Happy Holidays" then they have that right as well.

by **Benuty** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:11 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Benuty wrote:I wasn't aware they were the genital envious President of Argentina?

That's Kirchner, not Kurschin.

So?

Both have a K, so it obviously must be them *nods*.

by **Tyrandel** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:13 pm

Benuty wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Maybe allow people to say either or. Whichever they prefer. And not getting all fissy over it.

People should focus on the fact Bill O'Reilly has wet dreams about assassinating Presidents, and according to his new book..Patton.

He has wet dreams about assassinating Patton?

by **Napkiraly** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:16 pm

Tyrandel wrote:
Benuty wrote:People should focus on the fact Bill O'Reilly has wet dreams about assassinating Presidents, and according to his new book..Patton.

He has wet dreams about assassinating Patton?

Patton would just go Macho Man Randy Savage on his ass.

by **Costa Fierro** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:21 pm

'Tis the season to be offended. Fa-la-la-la la-la allacies.

by **Immoren** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:23 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:'Tis the season to be offended. Fa-la-la-la la-la allacies.

'Tis Sill
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by **Reploid Productions** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:24 pm

I don't even have to comment, the internet already made a pic that sums my opinion up perfectly!

Also, the "war of Christmas" is bullshit. We need to have a serious discussion about the much more serious war Christmas has been waging on Thanksgiving and Halloween for decades now. Christmas must be pushed back across the Black Friday border so that Thanksgiving and Halloween can have their days in peace!

More to the point: Not a Christian here, and I give precisely zero fucks whether someone tells me "Merry Christmas!" or "Happy holidays!" and so on. ALL of the happy/merry expressions basically translate to mean the same damned thing: "I wish you well."

If you're a Christian that gets bent out of shape over "Happy holidays" or an atheist that gets bent out of shape over "Merry Christmas!" UR BOTH DOIN IT RONG.

by **Immoren** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:26 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:the internet already made a pic that sums my opinion up perfectly!

Dissapointed that the Hogswatch is not included as specific holiday.

by **Napkiraly** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:27 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:I don't even have to comment, the internet already made a pic that sums my opinion up perfectly!

Also, the "war of Christmas" is bullshit. We need to have a serious discussion about the much more serious war Christmas has been waging on Thanksgiving and Halloween for decades now. Christmas must be pushed back across the Black Friday border so that Thanksgiving and Halloween can have their days in peace!

More to the point: Not a Christian here, and I give precisely zero fucks whether someone tells me "Merry Christmas!" or "Happy holidays!" and so on. ALL of the happy/merry expressions basically translate to mean the same damned thing: "I wish you well."

If you're a Christian that gets bent out of shape over "Happy holidays" or an atheist that gets bent out of shape over "Merry Christmas!" UR BOTH DOIN IT RONG.

What is this heresy? Logic? We shall have none of it here. Go back into the foul depths of hell!

by **Costa Fierro** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:28 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:I don't even have to comment, the internet already made a pic that sums my opinion up perfectly!

Also, the "war of Christmas" is bullshit. We need to have a serious discussion about the much more serious war Christmas has been waging on Thanksgiving and Halloween for decades now. Christmas must be pushed back across the Black Friday border so that Thanksgiving and Halloween can have their days in peace!

More to the point: Not a Christian here, and I give precisely zero fucks whether someone tells me "Merry Christmas!" or "Happy holidays!" and so on. ALL of the happy/merry expressions basically translate to mean the same damned thing: "I wish you well."

If you're a Christian that gets bent out of shape over "Happy holidays" or an atheist that gets bent out of shape over "Merry Christmas!" UR BOTH DOIN IT RONG.

Is "play those carols again and I'll garrote you with tinsel" doing it right?

by **Solaray** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:28 pm

Depends on the context. If your dealing with strangers who may not celebrate Christmas, "Happy Holidays" is probably the better choice. If you know a person celebrates Christmas or have good reason to assume they celebrate Christmas, then go with "Merry Christmas"

by **Conserative Morality** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:29 pm

Merry Christmas is fine. It's a public holiday that has nothing to do with religion for a very large number of Americans.

by **Ikania** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:30 pm

We have a few solutions here:

1. Take Christ out of Christmas and make it a secular holiday. This will make Christians mad.

2. Use 'Happy Holidays' or create some sort of secular holiday for everyone to enjoy. This will make Christians mad.

3. Promote Christmas and Christmas only, which will make everybody but Christians mad.

4. Leave it as it is, which Christians are getting angry about.

Which one sounds best to you?

by **Parhe** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:31 pm

Don't understand why so many people would be offended. I'm not offended when people greet me with something alluding to some religious event I don't follow. Then again on the other hand if someone knows another person is offended by a certain greeting then the person should use another greeting. People are just being too sensative as well as not taking into account other people.

by **Benuty** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:31 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Merry Christmas is fine. It's a public holiday that has nothing to do with religion for a very large number of Americans.

Define "Americans"?

Insert *Het Rio politically correct terminology stereotype here*.

by **Conserative Morality** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:31 pm

Ikania wrote:We have a few solutions here:

1. Take Christ out of Christmas and make it a secular holiday. This will make Christians mad.

Too late. Already happened. Jesus moved out about three or four decades ago.

by **Shilya** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:32 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Ikania wrote:We have a few solutions here:

1. Take Christ out of Christmas and make it a secular holiday. This will make Christians mad.

Too late. Already happened. Jesus moved out about three or four decades ago.

Wal-Mart doesn't like to share.

by **Benuty** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:32 pm

Ikania wrote:We have a few solutions here:

1. Take Christ out of Christmas and make it a secular holiday. This will make Christians mad.

2. Use 'Happy Holidays' or create some sort of secular holiday for everyone to enjoy. This will make Christians mad.

3. Promote Christmas and Christmas only, which will make everybody but Christians mad.

4. Leave it as it is, which Christians are getting angry about.

Which one sounds best to you?

Honestly the Northern American Protestants need to take a look at how the Latin American Catholics (and others) celebrate Christmas in such a strictly religious manner then proceed to shut the hell up.

by **Conserative Morality** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:33 pm

Benuty wrote:Define "Americans"?

Insert *Het Rio politically correct terminology stereotype here*.

1. Residents of the United States of America

2. A resident of the Americas

by **Cannot think of a name** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:33 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Maybe allow people to say either or. Whichever they prefer. And not getting all fissy over it.

I worked retail for a disturbingly long time in that 'liberal cesspool' that is the Bay Area and alternated, pretty much without much thought one way or the other about it, with 'Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Holidays' or 'Here's your Nelly CD...' and in that disturbingly long time the only time anyone ever flipped their shit was when someone lost it at one of our clerks for saying "Happy Holidays."

Now, this is an anecdote on the interwebs. I acknowledge that I might as well have said, "A gryphon appeared in the aisle one day and bit the head off someone saying happy holidays with a shirt that said, "I represent Christian America" and screamed "Say Merry Christmas motherfuckers" before taking a giant shit in the rap aisle and flying off. Anecdotes are not trends and not something any of you dudes can verify.

But, I have to say as an atheist who has lived in the scary places Conservatives tell their children about to get them to behave, I have not run into anyone who really gave that much of a shit about 'Merry Christmas' or even had anything against it except for the ravenous materialism and cardboard sentiment that was given lipservice in its name. Generally speaking they were all for the overall idea of togetherness and generosity.

But...what the fuck do I know.

by **Solaray** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:34 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:I don't even have to comment, the internet already made a pic that sums my opinion up perfectly!

Also, the "war of Christmas" is bullshit. We need to have a serious discussion about the much more serious war Christmas has been waging on Thanksgiving and Halloween for decades now. Christmas must be pushed back across the Black Friday border so that Thanksgiving and Halloween can have their days in peace!

More to the point: Not a Christian here, and I give precisely zero fucks whether someone tells me "Merry Christmas!" or "Happy holidays!" and so on. ALL of the happy/merry expressions basically translate to mean the same damned thing: "I wish you well."

If you're a Christian that gets bent out of shape over "Happy holidays" or an atheist that gets bent out of shape over "Merry Christmas!" UR BOTH DOIN IT RONG.

Also this

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