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What kind of Wiccan are you?

Non-denominational Wicca; duotheism, magic, etc.
2
1%
Reincarnation Wiccan(believes in reincarnation, but is similar to non-denominational in other ways)
3
1%
Eclectic Wicca
3
1%
Dianic Wicca(only believes in the Goddess, not the Horned God)
1
0%
Polytheistic Wicca("hard" polytheism-many major gods/goddesses, or "soft"-many minor spirits and deities)
3
1%
Other Sect of Wicca
1
0%
I'm not Wiccan and just checking out this thread
184
88%
Was once a Wiccan
12
6%
 
Total votes : 209

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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:23 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Hmm. Sounds like they are a Wiccan family, eh?

It's likely. I've never met their parents. My friends themselves are pretty cool.

Now, this may sound ignorant, so I apologize beforehand if it does, but doesn't Wicca revolve around magic?

It often does, though not necessarily. As a religion it's very non-dogmatic, so what is or is not a part of the religion is heavily open to personal interpretation. This includes magic.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:26 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:It's likely. I've never met their parents. My friends themselves are pretty cool.

Now, this may sound ignorant, so I apologize beforehand if it does, but doesn't Wicca revolve around magic?

It often does, though not necessarily. As a religion it's very non-dogmatic, so what is or is not a part of the religion is heavily open to personal interpretation. This includes magic.

But what defines magic, exactly? Are we talking sleight-of-hand or actual spells and potions?
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:34 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It often does, though not necessarily. As a religion it's very non-dogmatic, so what is or is not a part of the religion is heavily open to personal interpretation. This includes magic.

But what defines magic, exactly? Are we talking sleight-of-hand or actual spells and potions?

Rituals, some chanting here, a spell there, so on. That's how it was for me, at least. It varies a lot from individual to individual, though I never met a Wiccan who practiced stage magic or sleight-of-hand as a part of the religion.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:38 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:But what defines magic, exactly? Are we talking sleight-of-hand or actual spells and potions?

Rituals, some chanting here, a spell there, so on. That's how it was for me, at least. It varies a lot from individual to individual, though I never met a Wiccan who practiced stage magic or sleight-of-hand as a part of the religion.

Interesting. I don't know what it is about Wicca, but I always wanted to learn more about it. Thanks for the clarification, btw.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:41 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Rituals, some chanting here, a spell there, so on. That's how it was for me, at least. It varies a lot from individual to individual, though I never met a Wiccan who practiced stage magic or sleight-of-hand as a part of the religion.

Interesting. I don't know what it is about Wicca, but I always wanted to learn more about it. Thanks for the clarification, btw.

There are definitely posters who know more about Wicca here, so don't take me as gospel. I've been more or less irreligious for years now, so some of the stuff about Wicca is a little hazy. :p
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Postby The Wolven League » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:40 am

Scomagia wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Interesting. I don't know what it is about Wicca, but I always wanted to learn more about it. Thanks for the clarification, btw.

There are definitely posters who know more about Wicca here,

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Postby Scyobayrynn » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:20 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It often does, though not necessarily. As a religion it's very non-dogmatic, so what is or is not a part of the religion is heavily open to personal interpretation. This includes magic.

But what defines magic, exactly? Are we talking sleight-of-hand or actual spells and potions?

Magic, some prefer Magick(following the example of Crowley) to refer to the esoteric practices intended to influence the outside world.

The practice of magic be it high or low is just that however, manipulation of material, intonation, ritual, to experience and influence the world around us.
Magic may include petitioning Deities and or spirits. Some magical schools of thought are all intonations, chanting, and visualization.
Others are more material.

Magic defined is very difficult because it isnt as if its restricted only to Wicca. Many religions have esoteric practices which easily fall under the purview of "magic".
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:24 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Hmm. Sounds like they are a Wiccan family, eh?

It's likely. I've never met their parents. My friends themselves are pretty cool.

Now, this may sound ignorant, so I apologize beforehand if it does, but doesn't Wicca revolve around magic?

Pretty much, but not all of the sects.
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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:51 am

Hmm, the poll results are most interesting!

Not Wiccan: 88%

Was once Wiccan: 6%

Wiccan: 6%


I expected that many non-Wiccans, but not as many former Wiccans.
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:20 pm

Scyobayrynn wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:But what defines magic, exactly? Are we talking sleight-of-hand or actual spells and potions?

Magic, some prefer Magick(following the example of Crowley) to refer to the esoteric practices intended to influence the outside world.

The practice of magic be it high or low is just that however, manipulation of material, intonation, ritual, to experience and influence the world around us.
Magic may include petitioning Deities and or spirits. Some magical schools of thought are all intonations, chanting, and visualization.
Others are more material.

Magic defined is very difficult because it isnt as if its restricted only to Wicca. Many religions have esoteric practices which easily fall under the purview of "magic".

Indeed. Although "petitioning deities and spirits" doesn't really sound like magic to me, persay. More like simple worship.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:22 pm

Someone told me that Wiccans get mad at people pissing on trees and see them as heretics. Can any Wiccans confirm this?
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:25 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:Someone told me that Wiccans get mad at people pissing on trees and see them as heretics. Can any Wiccans confirm this?

Erm...I don't do that, and I'm a Wiccan. But there are so many sects, I'll bet at least one believes that.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:26 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Someone told me that Wiccans get mad at people pissing on trees and see them as heretics. Can any Wiccans confirm this?

Erm...I don't do that, and I'm a Wiccan. But there are so many sects, I'll bet at least one believes that.

Hmm, fairs dos'. Thanks for the clarification.
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:27 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Erm...I don't do that, and I'm a Wiccan. But there are so many sects, I'll bet at least one believes that.

Hmm, fairs dos'. Thanks for the clarification.

Np.

Any other questions?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:28 pm

Can I have a blessing from across the internet. Perhaps some good luck or something?

Or can you not do that? :p
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:29 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Hmm, fairs dos'. Thanks for the clarification.

Np.

Any other questions?


I do.

Wiccanism and witchcraft. I've met Wiccan who identify as witches. Do these go hand in hand or is there a difference?
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:30 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Hmm, fairs dos'. Thanks for the clarification.

Np.

Any other questions?

Na, it was just that one interesting snippet I heard from a friend. Thanks for answering.
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Postby Kohlandia » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:30 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Wiccanism and witchcraft. I've met Wiccan who identify as witches. Do these go hand in hand or is there a difference?


Wicca is a form of witchcraft but it is not the only form. You can be a witch and not follow Wicca.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:30 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Scyobayrynn wrote:Magic, some prefer Magick(following the example of Crowley) to refer to the esoteric practices intended to influence the outside world.

The practice of magic be it high or low is just that however, manipulation of material, intonation, ritual, to experience and influence the world around us.
Magic may include petitioning Deities and or spirits. Some magical schools of thought are all intonations, chanting, and visualization.
Others are more material.

Magic defined is very difficult because it isnt as if its restricted only to Wicca. Many religions have esoteric practices which easily fall under the purview of "magic".

Indeed. Although "petitioning deities and spirits" doesn't really sound like magic to me, persay. More like simple worship.


I believe that's called theurgy.

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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:31 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Np.

Any other questions?


I do.

Wiccanism and witchcraft. I've met Wiccan who identify as witches. Do these go hand in hand or is there a difference?

Wicca literally means "witch' and "wizard" in Old English.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:31 pm

Kohlandia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Wiccanism and witchcraft. I've met Wiccan who identify as witches. Do these go hand in hand or is there a difference?


Wicca is a form of witchcraft but it is not the only form. You can be a witch and not follow Wicca.


That's what I thought. Thanks for the answer.
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:32 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Can I have a blessing from across the internet. Perhaps some good luck or something?

Or can you not do that? :p

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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:36 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Indeed. Although "petitioning deities and spirits" doesn't really sound like magic to me, persay. More like simple worship.


I believe that's called theurgy.

Hmm.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:37 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I do.

Wiccanism and witchcraft. I've met Wiccan who identify as witches. Do these go hand in hand or is there a difference?

Wicca literally means "witch' and "wizard" in Old English.


I know the origin of the word. It's actually Middle English. However, it is a diverse tradition, so I wanted to make sure of whether witchcraft is a must or not. You know, not all Catholics are priests or all Buddhists monks. :)
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:06 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Wicca literally means "witch' and "wizard" in Old English.


I know the origin of the word. It's actually Middle English. However, it is a diverse tradition, so I wanted to make sure of whether witchcraft is a must or not. You know, not all Catholics are priests or all Buddhists monks. :)

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