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Warpspace wrote:

Brillnuck wrote:Agreed. Liberal's would actually push for a free market and not for a government regulated market.

It's part of the reason why I prefer to identify as a Federalist as opposed to a liberal. Besides, the Democrats and Republicans are just modern forms of the old Federalists and Anti Federalists.

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:

Ieperithem wrote:I'm sorry your special brand of communism wasn't one of the handful of categories recognised by the test. Clearly, the political view that only you and a few other people hold deserves just as much recognition as the political views that are held by anywhere from 10 to 15 percent of the 310,000,000 people living in America each.

Communists of a particularly special brand: still more sensible than endless shades of capitalism.

Also, if anything, it's the ideologies of people who score more than 1 "to the right" directions on the "political test" (it's okay to be anthropocentric or capitalist or nationalist) that should be regarded as the edgy ones.

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:

Ieperithem wrote:I'm sorry your special brand of communism wasn't one of the handful of categories recognised by the test. Clearly, the political view that only you and a few other people hold deserves just as much recognition as the political views that are held by anywhere from 10 to 15 percent of the 310,000,000 people living in America each.

Communists of a particularly special brand: still more sensible than endless shades of capitalism.

Also, if anything, it's the ideologies of people who score more than 1 "to the right" directions on the "political test" (it's okay to be anthropocentric or capitalist or nationalist) that should be regarded as the edgy ones.

Tea party separation of america wrote:I got steadfast conservative
This overwhelmingly Republican group holds very conservative attitudes across most issues, including social policy and the size and scope of government. However, they generally are critical of business and Wall Street. Overall, Steadfast Conservatives also express highly negative attitudes toward immigrants and take a skeptical view of U.S. global involvement. Compare groups on key issues.

Ripoll wrote:

Skappola wrote:They're the pragmatic and business wing of the Republicans, as opposed to the Religious wing, which is what makes up the Steadfast conservatives. They're moderate for the Republicans, though not by Democrat standards.

Yes I can agree with this assessment. At least they're practical, and in the current political climate that could be considered a moderate position due to how absurd some people are taking these things. One of the main things they've always disrupted me in my life was being labeled a neo-conservative by my liberal friends and a socialist by my conservative friends ^.^

O what fun it is to be labeled in extremes but possessing the most qualities of neither.

Skappola wrote:This test isn't putting people into categories based on "What is viewed as Sensible by HetRio", it's categorizing people based on what the major groupings of political thought in the US are.

And, considering that lots of people score more than a 1 to the right, they aren't the edgy ones. The edgy ones are the ones who hold an ideology whom very few hold and flaunt it around like it's special.

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:

Skappola wrote:This test isn't putting people into categories based on "What is viewed as Sensible by HetRio", it's categorizing people based on what the major groupings of political thought in the US are.

And, considering that lots of people score more than a 1 to the right, they aren't the edgy ones. The edgy ones are the ones who hold an ideology whom very few hold and flaunt it around like it's special.

http://www.politicaltest.net/

See this? It's what is in their sig.

Yes, people scoring as anthropocentric + capitalist, or nationalist + capitalist, or authoritarian + nationalist, or fundamentalist + so on, is bad.

Skappola wrote:I never said any of that wasn't bad. I said that none of it was "edgy" like you suggested it should be.

Equestican wrote:Solid Liberal (Not much of a surprise)
Generally affluent and highly educated, most Solid Liberals strongly support the social safety net and take very liberal positions on virtually all issues. Most say they always vote Democratic and are unflagging supporters of Barack Obama. Overall, Solid Liberals are very optimistic about the nation’s future and are the most likely to say that America’s success is linked to its ability to change, rather than its reliance on long-standing principles. On foreign policy, Solid Liberals overwhelmingly believe that good diplomacy – rather than military strength – is the best way to ensure peace. Compare groups on key issues.

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:

Skappola wrote:I never said any of that wasn't bad. I said that none of it was "edgy" like you suggested it should be.

It sure should be regarded as less legitimate political opinion than the whole spectrum of socialism, though. People here are saying the reverse is true.

Free Detroit wrote:

Equestican wrote:Solid Liberal (Not much of a surprise)
Generally affluent and highly educated, most Solid Liberals strongly support the social safety net and take very liberal positions on virtually all issues. Most say they always vote Democratic and are unflagging supporters of Barack Obama. Overall, Solid Liberals are very optimistic about the nation’s future and are the most likely to say that America’s success is linked to its ability to change, rather than its reliance on long-standing principles. On foreign policy, Solid Liberals overwhelmingly believe that good diplomacy – rather than military strength – is the best way to ensure peace. Compare groups on key issues.

Got this result too, which pretty much proves this is one of the shittiest political quizzes I've ever taken, at least in its interpretation.

I've been below the poverty line my entire life, and am moderately educated (MS degree and non-tenured professor status; definitely not one of the elites though)... I loathe both Obama and the Democratic party, though think they're both marginally better than the alternatives... and I am utterly pessimistic about the future of this sinking ship, though I try my best to chin up.

Oh well. Only wasted about 3 minutes of my life.

Skappola wrote:

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:It sure should be regarded as less legitimate political opinion than the whole spectrum of socialism, though. People here are saying the reverse is true.

You said that in reply to a comment that Communism shouldn't be included, and the commenter right. The fact that you consider it more legitimate should have nothing to do with the decision to include a certain category into a scientific study attempting to categorize the views of the American public. Communism isn't popular enough to be included.

Udinia wrote:

Martean wrote:
Any type, capitalism will inevitably fail

I can't wait for the day, capitalism is a plague unto humanity and the universe.

Martean wrote:

Udinia wrote:I can't wait for the day, capitalism is a plague unto humanity and the universe.

Do you think resources are unlimited or anything?

Ripoll wrote:

Martean wrote:
Do you think resources are unlimited or anything?

Capitalism most efficiently allocates resources, that argument is literally a proposition of why capitalism was made.

Ravenstor wrote:This test seems quite flawed in that it perpetuates the "there's only left wing vs. right wing" and that independents are all centrists. Yeah, it's a "real political compass test" if your entire political worldview exists purely within the Beltway narrative. In the real world, however, there is much greater variety.

Ripoll wrote:

Ravenstor wrote:This test seems quite flawed in that it perpetuates the "there's only left wing vs. right wing" and that independents are all centrists. Yeah, it's a "real political compass test" if your entire political worldview exists purely within the Beltway narrative. In the real world, however, there is much greater variety.

mehhhh

Republicans and democrats both pretty much tie up at 45% and the remaining are independents with roughly only 3 or 4% being third partiers so no it's pretty representative of reality.

Merizoc wrote:

Ripoll wrote:
Capitalism most efficiently allocates resources, that argument is literally a proposition of why capitalism was made.

Capitalism necessitates consumption and expansion. It is the very definition of "unsustainable".

Ripoll wrote:Maybe what you think you believe in and what the media has influenced you to believe are the same yet different from reality, and the morals you hold to be true align with what reality actually is and this quiz reflects the reality of what you should believe in and vote for if you are an American