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is sweden gone a little overboard with political correctness

Postby Death forests » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:34 am

I was reading Time magazie a while ago and it said that in Sweden boys play with princess dressup and make up. One dad said that men are loosing their "manness" to this new stuff. There is also a newspaper editor who recives death treaths because of her veiws on this issue. One man said that is was becoming a place where it is outlawed and unheard of to be manly

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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:35 am

...and?
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:35 am

Care to source the article you are referring to?
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Postby Centenniality » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:36 am

Well that sounds a bit silly, I'm in agreement with others. Love to see an article. :D
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:36 am

Death forests wrote:I was reading Time magazie a while ago and it said that in Sweden boys play with princess dressup and make up. One dad said that men are loosing their "manness" to this new stuff. There is also a newspaper editor who recives death treaths because of her veiws on this issue. One man said that is was becoming a place where it is outlawed and unheard of to be manly


Oh what their Viking ancestors would think about their descendants today...

Anyway, source?


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Postby Stahn » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:37 am

Not because of cross dressing.

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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:38 am

Hardly, what is wrong with being multicultural and accepting of other people's beliefs?
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Postby Skinia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:38 am

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:38 am

Two things.

1) I think it's great that Sweden is effectively destroying gender roles. A completely gender-neutral society would be pretty rad, imo.

2) I'd recommend polishing up your OP. For instance, could you provide a link to said article? And what's your opinion on all of this?
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Postby Supreme Leader-Kim Jong Un » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:38 am

Yes

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Postby Sunarctica » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:39 am

1. Can you please provide an actual source regarding this issue?
2. "Manlyness" is only an outdated concept that some people still use as a way to judge a ale individual
3. I've never heard of "Death Threats" to journalists here, and even if it did happen, it would no doubt be in the news
4. How is this a problem?
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Postby Centenniality » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:39 am

Well, that's what people choose. Maybe there's just more people choosing to be different in Sweden than elsewhere. Not much else to say to that... xD

It's not like they're actively making laws banning men from being men. That would actually be backwards to what they believe in.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:40 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:I think it's great that Sweden is effectively destroying gender roles. A completely gender-neutral society would be pretty rad, imo.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.
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Postby Fortschritte » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:41 am

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Postby Sunarctica » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:42 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:Two things.

1) I think it's great that Sweden is effectively destroying gender roles. A completely gender-neutral society would be pretty rad, imo.


I completely agree with you on this matter, the concept of "manlyness" is outdated, and to be frankly honest, gender roles are equally outdated
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Postby Teemant » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:43 am

Socialist Tera wrote:Hardly, what is wrong with being multicultural and accepting of other people's beliefs?


Can you even read the question or you have a sample answer previosuly saved that you can use on every topic?
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:44 am

Cyrisnia wrote:...and?

That is why the Swedish Democrats party(think Viking Nazis) is winning elections.
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Postby Hugohk » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 am

Not this fucking shit again.

Are we progressive? Yeah, sure.
Does that mean everyone thinks it's okay for little boys to wear dresses? Of course not, that is why you are speaking about it. I mean, I don't mind it. But it's so fucking exaggerated on the internet. It is always the same shit. "The feminists have emasculated all the men!!!1" No they haven't. That isn't what they want to do, and it isn't something that is even possible.

Once, just once I would like someone to point out that being from a specific country doesn't in fact make you an expert on said country.

"One dad said that men are loosing their "manness" to this new stuff. "


Oh well, some guy said that? Well jesus christ, that totally makes it true.
How am I supposed to argue with a statement not based on facts, but on a feeling someone has? How are we supposed to measure manlyness? It's an entirely subjective question that if posed correctly is irrefutable.

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You want your prejudices concerning a country you know nothing about to be validated, when in fact it is damn near impossible to draw conclusions about an entire population. People in Sweden aren't in a certain way. People in Sweden are the way people are.
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Postby Death forests » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 am

it was a time magazine and I have forgotten the name of the article but it was defo not the main thing it was like two pages long. I think i've still go it some where and if I find it I'll get back to ye :arrow: :ugeek:

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Postby Skinia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:1) I think it's great that Sweden is effectively destroying gender roles. A completely gender-neutral society would be pretty rad, imo.

Definitely. Being able to dress up without judgment would be absolutely fucking rad.
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:46 am

Sweden will be the first place on Earth in 2030s where heterosexuality is illegal.
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Postby Sunarctica » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:47 am

Southern Hampshire wrote:Sweden will be the first place on Earth in 2030s where heterosexuality is illegal.


That honor belongs to San Fransisco :P

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Arcturus Novus wrote:1) I think it's great that Sweden is effectively destroying gender roles. A completely gender-neutral society would be pretty rad, imo.

Definitely. Being able to dress up without judgment would be absolutely fucking rad.


To be honest, I've always wanted to wear a dress at one point or another...

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:47 am

Skinia wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:1) I think it's great that Sweden is effectively destroying gender roles. A completely gender-neutral society would be pretty rad, imo.

Definitely. Being able to dress up without judgment would be absolutely fucking rad.

We're almost there in some parts of America. Though I'd probably get beaten if I decided to sport a skirt and blouse.
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Postby Teemant » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:48 am

Skinia wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:1) I think it's great that Sweden is effectively destroying gender roles. A completely gender-neutral society would be pretty rad, imo.

Definitely. Being able to dress up without judgment would be absolutely fucking rad.


The problem is that they think it is a problem if a boy doesn't want to dress like a princess. These people are being judged for not wanting to do this. So much about your dressing without judgement.
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Postby Hugohk » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:48 am

greed and death wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:...and?

That is why the Swedish Democrats party is winning elections.


First of all, they haven't won shit. They've successfully fooled 13% of the population into thinking "if we had no immigrants, shit would be totes great yall".
They are gaining strength by giving people who do not understand (or who do not really want to understand) politics simple answers to difficult questions. By playing on uneducated peoples fear of immigration and by being a rightwing populist party in general.
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98% of people mindlessly repost any fucking quote that has a statistic in it though.

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