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Sahrani South wrote: I seriously think these atheists should read the Bible!

But OP, I've read the Bible. In fact I've studied Theology for three years. I'm educated on Biblical History, Theology, Religious Studies and other relevant subjects. And I'm an Atheistic Satanist. What am I doing wrong? What particular Bible should I read to become Christian? I'm all ears.

As a Christian, I find this thread both funny and cringe worthy.

Unless this is a joke, in that case hardy har har.

Skinia wrote:

The Cobalt Sky wrote:Also, maybe...
http://www.juancole.com/images/2013/04/relviolence.jpg

Ah yes, t3h ebul m00zlimz.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=anti_jewish_league

It's in our own backyard...

Cyrisnia wrote:what about gay people who follow religion?

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 - "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Fun fact: The atheist and homosexual David Thorstad was a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).

Estainia wrote:

Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is a religion. All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

But most of Africa is Christian or Mu---Oh fuck this, you're naught more than a troll. I'm out.

You realized that just now?

Sahrani South wrote:Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

Catholics help spread AIDS because they disapprove of preventing it.

"I say it in the presence of His Grace, and I say it to his face: his policies are directly responsible for the deaths of millions of his brother and sister Africans, and I think he should apologise for it. He should show some shame!"
- Christopher Hitchens.

Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is a religion. All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

No it isn't.

And forgive me, but didn't George Bush Jr prefer to send bibles instead of Condoms to Africa?

Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is a religion. All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

Oh, now you have a problem with homosexuals too?

Well you had better oil up, cause i'm about to show you the joys of atheism.

18 But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves.

http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Numbers%2031

Skinia wrote:

Estainia wrote:
But most of Africa is Christian or Mu---Oh fuck this, you're naught more than a troll. I'm out.

You realized that just now?

No I just finally got tired of it.

The Alma Mater wrote:

Arcturus Novus wrote:Sorry, what?

The only thing stopping Sahrani South from aborting millions of children every year, raping, murdering, stealing etc is belief in God. Take that away and (s)he would therefor turn into a dreadful monster.

The suggestion made by the OP is that the same is true for all christians, and that we should therefor make certain they never have a reason to doubt. This involves making displays of nonbelief illegal.

Got it ?

I understand what they are saying, I just don't understand how they believe this is sound logic.

Sahrani South wrote:Mao-Tse-Tung, Atheist: 40 million plus dead
Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead
Adolf Hitler, Atheist: 15 million dead
Vladimir Lenin, Atheist: 5.5 million dead
Kim-Il-Sung, Atheist: 5 million dead
Pol Pot, Atheist: 2 million dead
Fidel Castro, Atheist: 1 million dead

Crusaed: 1-3 million deaths over hundreds of years

how does this compare?

You need to adjust for world population and military technology.

Plus...the fact that so many Nazis were Christians. Also, calling Hitler an atheist is dubious. It's not clear that he was.

Millions of children die every year because of ATHEIST abortion.

What the heck is "atheist abortion"? Abortion is accepted by millions of Christians. It was even widely accepted by Protestants at one time in American history.

Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is a religion. All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

Wrong. An atheist is someone who lacks belief in god. Whether or not we believe he exists corresponds to a subcategory of both atheism and theism.

Regarding your second point, thank you for ensuring that I never take another thing that you post in these forums seriously again.

Sahrani South wrote:

Cyrisnia wrote:what about gay people who follow religion?

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 - "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Fun fact: The atheist and homosexual David Thorstad was a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).

Fun fact: those egregiously mistranslated, cherry-picked and out-of-context taken passages only ban gay sex. Not homosexuality, not homosexuals and not even gay marriage.

I've always wanted to say this, so heres my chance. If God's 3 parts, especially Jesus were on earth. They would all be Libertarians. The one thing that fundamentalists love to ignore, is the fact that we have free will. According to the bible, God wants us to COME to him, he doesn't want people FORCED to him. Because God understood from Noah's ark that forcing would only cause problems, so please, any fundamentalist LEARN your religion before you spew out this crap.

Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is a religion. All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

One aids is a STD, two Christians are just as likely to get as everyone else. So by that statement your a bigot that thumps bibles and hates gays. But then again, there isn't a cure for stupid either.

Need a name wrote:As a Christian, I find this thread both funny and cringe worthy.

Unless this is a joke, in that case hardy har har.

Here in NationStates General we're quite capable of running every joke into the ground, I'm afraid.

Sahrani South wrote:

Cyrisnia wrote:what about gay people who follow religion?

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 - "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Fun fact: The atheist and homosexual David Thorstad was a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).

The Pastafarian Guide to Propaganda: 95:3
My proof: The Gospel of FSM

• TH E ELDERLY are most easily reached through their firmly entrenched
moral values. FSMism is, after all, a comparatively conservative religion.
Even though we don't discriminate, and although we openly accept those
of varied backgrounds and sexual preference into our religion, it can be
noted as advantageous that there are many more gay and lesbian preachers
in Christian churches than there are in FSM churches. And while there
is nothing particularly important about that phenomenon, it is apparently
a big issue with some of the parishioners. So it may be helpful to
point out that bit of statistics in order to grow our congregation. 4

I can quote scripture as well.

Sahrani South wrote:

Cyrisnia wrote:what about gay people who follow religion?

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 - "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Fun fact: The atheist and homosexual David Thorstad was a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).

If you follow Leviticus, then you must also follow not eating shrimp, not shaving your beard, and not wearing mixed cloth.

Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is a religion. All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

No, we have plenty of moral and philosophic arguments, you people just never listen.

Sahrani South wrote:Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS

Yeah right.

Sahrani South wrote:because they approve of same-sex marriage.

It's not about atheism. But why shouldn't a pair of adults, doesn't matter what their sexuality is decide they want to marry? Who are we to tell gay people it's wrong for them to be together? @Just like we don't want them to judge us we shouldn't judge them.

Sahrani South wrote:

Cyrisnia wrote:what about gay people who follow religion?

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 - "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Fun fact: The atheist and homosexual David Thorstad was a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).

So you DO support murder of people not like you!

Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is a religion. All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

I'm a Pentecostal Christian, so bear with me that I sort of understand where you're coming from. Atheism is a lack of religious belief. And do all atheists approve of same-sex marriage? No.

And while we're quoting the Bible...

John 13:34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

John 13:35 "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

Romans 12:16 "Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited."

Romans 14:13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.

Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is a religion. All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

Fucking, you're either the biggest idiot I've ever had to deal with or a massive troll...

I really hope you're a troll because that would make you smart.

Anyway, as I have nothing better to do right now, I guess I'll just keep fucking responding.

All their arguments are "I don't believe god exists?"

Well, said arguments are backed up with massive amounts of contradictory evidence to Christian beliefs and religious beliefs in general and/or bad experiences with religion, but whatever, we'll just ignore all of that cause whyshould I bother trying to come up with valid evidence when you aren't?

Also, about that africa thing: Atheists help spread AIDS because they approve of same-sex marriage.

They also promote sexual health... just because gay marriage becomes a thing, does not mean Aids becomes the number one thing in Africa.

Fucking, by that logic, US states that legalized gay marriage should have fucking RAMPANT Aids all over!

...But they don't, so your argument again, holds no ground.

Arcturus Novus wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:
The only thing stopping Sahrani South from aborting millions of children every year, raping, murdering, stealing etc is belief in God. Take that away and (s)he would therefor turn into a dreadful monster.

The suggestion made by the OP is that the same is true for all christians, and that we should therefor make certain they never have a reason to doubt. This involves making displays of nonbelief illegal.

Got it ?

I understand what they are saying, I just don't understand how they believe this is sound logic.

Logic ? This is faith silly.
But easy:
1. God is the source of all morality.
2. Therefor, without God, there is no morality
3. Therefor, without God, people would act like the OP secretly longs to act

Which scares the OP.