Ban on atheism

[Ikania]

I'm going to address these arguments in as much a non-flamey way as possible.

1. Atheism is not a religion nor an ideology. Atheism does not promote 'sin', because it has no definition of it. There are no followers of atheism, no believers in atheism, there are simply atheists. The world used to describe someone who does not believe in a God. Atheism is not a political stance. It's not on the left-right scale, and it doesn't promote or deny anything except the existence of a God.

2. Why shouldn't we ban atheism? Because there's no reason to. Your only evidence insofar has been the Bible, which you cannot prove is true. Atheism doesn't need proof because it's not an ideology. It's not something to be proved. It's just something to think. There's no proof for either a God or no God, and some people decide not to believe in one for that reason.

3. Science, as well, is not an ideology. Science is not something you believe in, something you worship. It is fact. It is something you know. A scientific theory has been PROVEN. You can't dismiss science because you don't believe in it. To do that is LITERALLY denial of reality. Christianity is religion, science is fact.

4. Atheism does not spur crime. We receive our morals based on human instinct. Why don't we murder? Because it will make a lot of people sad and if you're not a psychopath then you probably don't want that to happen. Our morals are based on the consequences just as much as yours, but without any heaven/hell. And for the majority of inmates being atheists... source pl0x.

5. No country in the developed world goes by religious law, and they're no more compelled to go by your holy book than any other religious laws in the world.

[Sahrani South]

Notable Atheists
Hawking
Brian Cox
Ataturk

Stephen Hawkings has proved the multiverse theory is bullshit and has converted to Deism.
Ataturk commited genocide as bad as holocaust on armenians.

[Dyakovo]

One of my friends came forward and told me he was an atheist. I asked him why he was an atheist and he said, "I prayed to God for help, but he never helped me." That's no reason to disbelieve in God. Do you atheists seriously think he will help you with everything. Creator put you on earth to fix your mistakes. He won't solve the problems you caused. And stop blaming him for taking away people you care about. It's not his fault you failed or lost someone.

Those who disbelieve in God are what I call 'clouded minds'. You don't realise you are one until you are freed from corruption. I know from experience. I was once a disbeliever and then came to realise that people are not educated on who God actually is and how religion and science can coexist.

Atheism should be banned because it is very wrong. I seriously think these atheists should read the Bible! I hate it when some kids these days say that they are atheist, it is absolutely WRONG.

Every Christian knows Atheists have no morals because they think they can ignore God’s Holy Bible. Some of them even deny the existence of Hell! They murder, steal and rape all the time as if there is no tomorrow. It is no coincidence that most criminals are Atheists. It is time to stop all this! It is a known fact that Atheists like nothing more but killing unborn children (abortion) and defenseless elders (euthanasia).

Christians know that life begins BEFORE conception: Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.”

Only Christians realize that murder is bad: Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill.”

There can be only one conclusion! Atheism has to be outlawed, just like the Bible tells us: 2nd Chronicles 15:13 “That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman”.

0/10 Would not read again.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Atheism is quite possibly one of the worst sins in the eyes of the Church. It includes a complete rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God - almost every single Catholic doctrine about the divine. It most certianly is a mortal sin, if the other two conditions for a mortal sin are met.

Other grave sins are illegal, such as murder, rape, theft, etc. Atheism, which is just as bad (if not even worse) than those sins, ought to be illegal too. Also, it would be a deterrant to conversion to atheism and most likely result in significantly fewer atheists.

So, why shouldn't atheism be illegal? Where is my logic wrong?

Everywhere. Freedom of religion. Atheism doesn't hurt people. There is no atheist doctrine. The "rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God" aren't sins.

[Aelex]

(And about the fact of creating god for making sense, it's wrong... People created Gods for having a reason to follow the laws and do not do too much bad things. Without God, no civilisation'll have ever be able to developped itself...)

First, the term you're looking for is society. Most people agree that the line between civilization and nonsedentary societies relies primary on agriculture rather than the development of internal rules.

Second, don't be silly. Of all the systems used to enforce social order, religion, whether 'true' or 'untrue', has been used as such in order to keep the elite in power and unite disparate groups. Not so much for reducing the incidence of crime.

Yeah, society, civilisation... I do think you may have noticed I don't speak a very good english, ain't you?

But, ndeed what you sayed was exactly what I was trying to say: the civic's faiths helped to unite disparate people under the rule of one guy, (or many if you speak about the citys states), it's quite obvious.
Altought, they make other things than just give a reason to oppress and make obey people. Religion DO make reason to the laws to be Laws. In Antiquity, it was by melting the laws with religion that "governement" were able to make them respected.

[Elepis]

Notable Atheists
Hawking
Brian Cox
Ataturk

Stephen Hawkings has proved the multiverse theory is bullshit and has converted to Deism.
Ataturk commited genocide as bad as holocaust on armenians.

How did Ataturk kill them, he was fighting at Galipoli when that happened. He was A COLONEL when that happened

So Christians like Himmler and Hitler are fine then?

[Elepis]

Stephen Hawkings has proved the multiverse theory is bullshit and has converted to Deism.
Ataturk commited genocide as bad as holocaust on armenians.

How did Ataturk kill them, he was fighting at Galipoli when that happened. He was A COLONEL when that happened

So Christians like Himmler and Hitler are fine then?

Also
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 2063,d.d24

[Conserative Morality]

Ataturk commited genocide as bad as holocaust on armenians.

I don't think you understand how much power Ataturk had during the Armenian genocide.

PROTIP: a colonel in a war zone has no control in most governmental systems over genocide on the other side of the country.

[UBS]

Please just stop,with every post,i slowly die knowing people actually care about what you believe in *clenches chest* UGH,theres another one.

[Norshade]

Wow, you're brainwashed.
I don't see anything wrong with atheism. Mind your own business.

[Liriena]

One of my friends came forward and told me he was an atheist. I asked him why he was an atheist and he said, "I prayed to God for help, but he never helped me." That's no reason to disbelieve in God.

Sure it is. If an allegedly omnipotent, loving, paternalistic and anthropocentric being demands that you pray to it, if that same deity fails to answer to your prayers in any perceivable way, that can be construed as very compelling evidence against its existence, much in the same way as a corporation's headquarters turning out to be a vacant lot could be construed as compelling evidence against its legitimacy.

Do you atheists seriously think he will help you with everything.

By definition, an atheist doesn't believe any deity exists in the first place, so you're off to a bad start.

He won't solve the problems you caused.

Clearly, this "Creator" doesn't understand how the Universe works, then. All human actions are the product of a nearly infinite plethora of conditions.

And that's without mentioning the fact that accusing those whose prayers go unanswered of being responsible for their problems is an unsustainable generalisation.

And stop blaming him for taking away people you care about. It's not his fault you failed or lost someone.

Actually, it technically is. After all, this deity you speak of is supposed to be our omnipotent and omniscient "creator", which means that he was fully in control of our physical and mental design from the very beginning. Therefor, human mortality and human capacity to make mistakes is definitely its fault.

Those who disbelieve in God are what I call 'clouded minds'.

I'd say those who are incapable of accepting the fact that people may have different opinions on matters related to the supernatural and come up with pseudo-psychological malarkey to marginalise those differing opinions have a serious ego problem, but I'm not a professional, so what do I know?

You don't realise you are one until you are freed from corruption.

What corruption?

I know from experience.

You cannot use your personal experiences as a standard for all atheists.

I was once a disbeliever and then came to realise that people are not educated on who God actually is and how religion and science can coexist.

[citation needed]

Atheism should be banned because it is very wrong.

Moral relativism sends its regards.

How is it wrong not to believe in a deity whose existence has not been proven?

I seriously think these atheists should read the Bible!

Many already have. In fact, many people will tell you they became atheists because they read the Bible.

I hate it when some kids these days say that they are atheist, it is absolutely WRONG.

You hate people who have a different opinion from yours, so their opinion must be morally wrong.

Yeah, nothing self-centered about this.

Every Christian knows Atheists have no morals because they think they can ignore God’s Holy Bible.

[many citations needed]

Also, what about non-Christian religious people? Do they have no morals either?

Some of them even deny the existence of Hell!

Of course they do. They are atheists.

Is this supposed to be shocking?

They murder, steal and rape all the time as if there is no tomorrow.

Wrong, at least as far as the United States are concerned.

It is no coincidence that most criminals are Atheists.

Statistically, as shown above, they are not.

Lying is a sin.

It is time to stop all this! It is a known fact that Atheists like nothing more but killing unborn children (abortion) and defenseless elders (euthanasia).

[citation needed]

Also, there's no shortage of Christians who are pro-choice on abortion and euthanasia.

Christians know that life begins BEFORE conception.

Again, lots of pro-choice Christians out there.

Only Christians realize that murder is bad.

Another blatant lie.

If you are Catholic, I recommend you go see your local priest and confess to these despicable lies you've been spewing.

There can be only one conclusion! Atheism has to be outlawed, just like the Bible tells us: 2nd Chronicles 15:13 “That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman”.

No, thank you. I like my religious liberty and separation of Church and State.

[Sahrani South]

So Christians like Himmler and Hitler are fine then?

Hitler was atheist and SS was pagan worshippers, many Priests died in camps because of their christian faith.

[Cyrisnia]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

Notable Christians:
HITLER
HIMMLER (SS)
reinhard heydrich (SECOND IN COMMAND, SS)

Notable Atheists
Hawking
Brian Cox
Ataturk

Hitler was athiest.

[Xerusia]

what about gay people who follow religion?

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 - "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Fun fact: The atheist and homosexual David Thorstad was a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).

"Ruth loved Naomi as Adam Loved Eve" - click

[Alexzanabbgggggg]

How could a colonel commit genocide?

[Ikania]

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were irreligious, you got me there. But Hitler was most likely a Christian. Saddam Hussein was a Sunni Muslim, and Obama is a devout Christian without denomination.

[Rutuba]

Opinions should not be banned just because some - no matter how vocal - segment of the society finds them wrong.

[New Carloso]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

Ok, now you've lost all credibility. Let me correct you.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein Was Sunni Muslim
Hitler Unclear
Obama Christian
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush Which George W. Bush? Good Bush or Bad Bush. If its Bad Bush than... yeah... not my hero
Gandhi Was Hindu
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volunteers A small portion of these volunteers were proobably atheist

You forgot to leave you many Christian "ebil ppl", such as Joseph Kony, The KKK, Daniel François Malan and many, many others. This is coming from an Irish Roman Catholic by the way.

[UBS]

Notable Christians:
HITLER
HIMMLER (SS)
reinhard heydrich (SECOND IN COMMAND, SS)

Notable Atheists
Hawking
Brian Cox
Ataturk

Hitler was athiest.

WHO CARES,He was a great man,atheist or christian or hindu or muslim or whatever

[Xerusia]

Notable Christians:
HITLER
HIMMLER (SS)
reinhard heydrich (SECOND IN COMMAND, SS)

Notable Atheists
Hawking
Brian Cox
Ataturk

Hitler was athiest.

Christian*
"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian." - Adolf Hitler

[IisraelL]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot
Sigmund Freud
Carl Sagan
Nietszche
Fritz Lang
Ridley Scott

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers
Hitler
Obama
Vlad the Impaler
Ivan the Terrible


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

Fixed and upgraded a little.

[Elepis]

So Christians like Himmler and Hitler are fine then?

Hitler was atheist and SS was pagan worshippers, many Priests died in camps because of their christian faith.

Any proof


Also Himmler and Heydrich, the leaders of the SS were Christian, why were they not killed in the camps?

[Tes Enger]

I thought euthanasia was optional. Also, how do you explain the Catholic sex scandel?

[UBS]

Hitler was athiest.

Christian*
"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian." - Adolf Hitler

I'm a part of the american nazi party and i can 100% confirm that this is false.

[IisraelL]

Notable Atheists
Hawking
Brian Cox
Ataturk

Stephen Hawkings has proved the multiverse theory is bullshit and has converted to Deism.

Not he didn't.