Is the Antarctic Treaty Unfair?

[The All-Natural Future]

I think we should give control of Antarctica to the United States.

We should give control of Antarcica to the polar bears and the penguins. Humans have no place there.

[Cetacea]

I think we should give control of Antarctica to the United States.

We should give control of Antarcica to the polar bears and the penguins. Humans have no place there.

typical northern Imperialist invaders! You can keep your Bears to yourselves thanks!!!!

and if Anything Control of Antartica should be a granted to New Zealand and Rarotonga (fact the first person to actually discover Antartica was a Rarotongan who had travelled via Aotearoa New Zealand)

I'd compromise on a shared union between NZ - Australia-South Africa-Chile


Oh OP the Treaty is too lax, there should be NO territorial claims to Antartica

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

I think we should give control of Antarctica to the United States.

Why?

We are the most suited to control it.

Besides, freedom.

[Planita]

Why?

We are the most suited to control it.

Besides, freedom.

yeah no

[Planita]

Why?

We are the most suited to control it.

Besides, freedom.

[All Natural France]

Why?

We are the most suited to control it.

Besides, freedom.

The Underlined is bullshit.
The Bolded is Hilarious.
The Italicized defies all logic that would come to the Antarctic Treaty and the fact that Russia is the successor of the USSR, thus validating their cliaims, and the soverignity of Argentina, Chile, The United Kingdom, New Zealand, Norway, Australia, etc. due to the fact they have claims established before the treaty came to effect.

[Kratu]

Why?

We are the most suited to control it.

Besides, freedom.

But what is there that is worth having?

[All Natural France]

We are the most suited to control it.

Besides, freedom.

But what is there that is worth having?

We'd drain the shit out all the oil of Antarctica, like we do with Alaska. We rape the land for our personal gain.

[Greed and Death]

Why would someone want to nuke Antarctica in the first place?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUxK_0WLbg

the answer to your question.

[Utceforp]

I think we should give control of Antarctica to the United States.

We should give control of Antarcica to the polar bears and the penguins. Humans have no place there.

>Antarctica
>Polar bears

[Shofercia]

We are the most suited to control it.

Besides, freedom.

That's hilarious!

[The Liberated Territories]

Of course. How the hell am I supposed to colonize Antarctica when the caps melt?

[Revanchism]

We should give control of Antarcica to the polar bears and the penguins. Humans have no place there.

>Antarctica
>Polar bears

SCIENCE!

[Australian rePublic]

Why would someone want to nuke Antarctica in the first place?

Where else are you gonna test your weapons?

[Australian rePublic]

Who would want to even claim Antartic territory? Not like these much in the way of productivity there and it's nearly impossible to set up a continuously inhabited settalment in the area. So who going to go to war over useless territory and at that why against Australia?

Why Australia. I thought it was the best example since it is my home nation

[Australian rePublic]

I'm getting this feeling that most of your questions can be answered with google.

Don't you think that if Google had the answer, Google wouldn't have answered my questions?

[Australian rePublic]

I think we should give control of Antarctica to the United States.

Because?

[All Natural France]

Who would want to even claim Antartic territory? Not like these much in the way of productivity there and it's nearly impossible to set up a continuously inhabited settalment in the area. So who going to go to war over useless territory and at that why against Australia?

Why Australia. I thought it was the best example since it is my home nation

Not exactly. i think the best example is the overlappers, specifically, Argentinanian, Chilean, and British Claims to Antarctica.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Why Australia. I thought it was the best example since it is my home nation

Not exactly. i think the best example is the overlappers, specifically, Argentinanian, Chilean, and British Claims to Antarctica.

Further complicated by Brazil's.

[All Natural France]

Not exactly. i think the best example is the overlappers, specifically, Argentinanian, Chilean, and British Claims to Antarctica.

Further complicated by Brazil's.

Is it? I'm not seeing it.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Further complicated by Brazil's.

Is it? I'm not seeing it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Antarctica

We have a weak semi-claim on the bit facing our coast.

[All Natural France]

Is it? I'm not seeing it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Antarctica

We have a weak semi-claim on the bit facing our coast.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Silly me
That's then 9 countries, + two others free to take unclaimed land.

[Risottia]

A) I feel there is a disadvantage to signatories. If, for example, a nation who is not a signatory wanted to take Australia's territory, or nuke Australian Antarctic Territory, Australia would be disadvantaged in that we (Australia) aren't allowed to stop it with military intervention

Australia signed this:
Article I
1. Antarctica shall be used for peaceful purposes only. There shall be prohibited, inter alia, any measure of a military nature, such as the establishment of military bases and fortifications, the carrying out of military manoeuvres, as well as the testing of any type of weapon.
2. The present Treaty shall not prevent the use of military personnel or equipment for scientific research or for any other peaceful purpose.

Article X

Each of the Contracting Parties undertakes to exert appropriate efforts, consistent with the Charter of the United Nations, to the end that no one engages in any activity in Antarctica contrary to the principles or purposes of the present Treaty.

Article XI

1. If any dispute arises between two or more of the Contracting Parties concerning the interpretation or application of the present Treaty, those Contracting Parties shall consult among themselves with a view to having the dispute resolved by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement or other peaceful means of their own choice.

2. Any dispute of this character not so resolved shall, with the consent, in each case, of all parties to the dispute, be referred to the International Court of Justice for settlement; but failure to reach agreement on reference to the International Court shall not absolve parties to the dispute from the responsibility of continuing to seek to resolve it by any of the various peaceful means referred to in paragraph 1 of this Article.

B) We (Australia) can't claim sovereignty over the claims, which means that we, Australia, can't build cities there right? but if a non-signatory nation wanted to build a city in our (Australia's) claim, there in every legal right to?
Am I correct with everything that I'm saying? What benefits do the signitories get? I feel the signatiry nations are getting the bad end of the deal here

Wrong.
Article 4 – Article IV
Nothing contained in the present Treaty shall be interpreted as:

a. a renunciation by any Contracting Party of previously asserted rights of or claims to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica;

b. a renunciation or diminution by any Contracting Party of any basis of claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica which it may have whether as a result of its activities or those of its nationals in Antarctica, or otherwise;

c. prejudicing the position of any Contracting Party as regards its recognition or non-recognition of any other State's rights of or claim or basis of claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica.

No acts or activities taking place while the present Treaty is in force shall constitute a basis for asserting, supporting or denying a claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica or create any rights of sovereignty in Antarctica. No new claim, or enlargement of an existing claim, to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica shall be asserted while the present Treaty is in force.

C) The USA and Russia have the right to establish a claim whenever they want, correct? Does this mean that other nations have to forego their claims, or that they get to claim the un-claimed part? Are they under different rules?

Wrong again.
See Article 4

This all seems unfair

First try and read the ATS. You clearly lack a lot of clues about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty

[Risottia]

I think we should give control of Antarctica to the United States.

Sorry dude. I don't see you being able to wrestle it from the Vikings.

[Estado Nacional]

Why would someone want to nuke Antarctica in the first place?

Where else are you gonna test your weapons?

Deserts, islands...