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Nova Acernis wrote:

Armstdern wrote:The cop is an asshole, as a police officer you don't value your own life over a child's, also if a police officer can't tell the difference between a fake and a real gun then he shouldn't be a cop in the first place.

The barrel on the airsoft gun had no orange safety indicator and was all black. It looked like a real gun. Also, police officers cannot be suspected to die because the armed person is a child. Lastly, he wasn't just acting to protect himself, but the other officer(s) at the scene and any bystanders.

You're an idiot if you think that police officers should be expected to die because the person with a gun (what was later discovered to not be a real one) is a child. The cop also did NOT, I repeat, did NOT, think he did good. He is distraught over the incident.

Also, why are you even trying to pull the racism card? If Tamir Rice was white, I guarantee that you wouldn't give two fucks.

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:

United States Kingdom wrote:Life in prison would be a good punishment.

Life in prison for...self defense? What about the Second Amendment?

The balkens wrote:

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Life in prison for...self defense? What about the Second Amendment?

Hes a police officer, every round he fires he is accountable for. its not some redneck that wants to squeeze off a few rounds.

Armstdern wrote:

Nova Acernis wrote:
The barrel on the airsoft gun had no orange safety indicator and was all black. It looked like a real gun. Also, police officers cannot be suspected to die because the armed person is a child. Lastly, he wasn't just acting to protect himself, but the other officer(s) at the scene and any bystanders.

You're an idiot if you think that police officers should be expected to die because the person with a gun (what was later discovered to not be a real one) is a child. The cop also did NOT, I repeat, did NOT, think he did good. He is distraught over the incident.

Also, why are you even trying to pull the racism card? If Tamir Rice was white, I guarantee that you wouldn't give two fucks.

They drove right up next to the boy, they saw the gun. They should of been able to tell the difference between a fake and a real gun.

Planita wrote:Oh great you again...

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:

The balkens wrote:
Hes a police officer, every round he fires he is accountable for. its not some redneck that wants to squeeze off a few rounds.

That's not the story, though. Someone had a very realistic gun and was causing a lot of trouble. The cop is justified.

Armstdern wrote:

Nova Acernis wrote:
The barrel on the airsoft gun had no orange safety indicator and was all black. It looked like a real gun. Also, police officers cannot be suspected to die because the armed person is a child. Lastly, he wasn't just acting to protect himself, but the other officer(s) at the scene and any bystanders.

You're an idiot if you think that police officers should be expected to die because the person with a gun (what was later discovered to not be a real one) is a child. The cop also did NOT, I repeat, did NOT, think he did good. He is distraught over the incident.

Also, why are you even trying to pull the racism card? If Tamir Rice was white, I guarantee that you wouldn't give two fucks.

They drove right up next to the boy, they saw the gun. They should of been able to tell the difference between a fake and a real gun.

United Marxist Nations wrote:

Armstdern wrote:THEY ARE COPS, HE DROVE UP RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

What is "right next to him"? That's not really a useful measurement without knowing the distance. Past 5 or 6 ft, that thing would look pretty real.

Trygg wrote:

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Life in prison for...self defense? What about the Second Amendment?

looooooooooool. I don't agree with life imprisonment, but isn't there something called using "necessary force"? Did the officer really have to shoot-to-kill?

Armstdern wrote:They drove right up next to the boy, they saw the gun. They should of been able to tell the difference between a fake and a real gun.

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:

Planita wrote:Oh great you again...

Hello!

Armstdern wrote:> Kills a child
> Is justified
Yeah nahh

Kriegers wrote:

Armstdern wrote:
They drove right up next to the boy, they saw the gun. They should of been able to tell the difference between a fake and a real gun.

Having used real weapons and AirSoft guns, it's not incredibly easy to tell from any distance.

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:

The balkens wrote:
Hes a police officer, every round he fires he is accountable for. its not some redneck that wants to squeeze off a few rounds.

That's not the story, though. Someone had a very realistic gun and was causing a lot of trouble. The cop is justified.

Armstdern wrote:

Nova Acernis wrote:
The barrel on the airsoft gun had no orange safety indicator and was all black. It looked like a real gun. Also, police officers cannot be suspected to die because the armed person is a child. Lastly, he wasn't just acting to protect himself, but the other officer(s) at the scene and any bystanders.

You're an idiot if you think that police officers should be expected to die because the person with a gun (what was later discovered to not be a real one) is a child. The cop also did NOT, I repeat, did NOT, think he did good. He is distraught over the incident.

Also, why are you even trying to pull the racism card? If Tamir Rice was white, I guarantee that you wouldn't give two fucks.

They drove right up next to the boy, they saw the gun. They should of been able to tell the difference between a fake and a real gun.

Armstdern wrote:

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
That's not the story, though. Someone had a very realistic gun and was causing a lot of trouble. The cop is justified.

> Kills a child
> Is justified
Yeah nahh

Armstdern wrote:

Kriegers wrote:Having used real weapons and AirSoft guns, it's not incredibly easy to tell from any distance.

Either way, they shot to kill that boy. His death would've been avoided if they chose to shoot elsewhere.

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:

Armstdern wrote:> Kills a child
> Is justified
Yeah nahh

This brings up an interesting point, by the way. You say that killing a child is not justified. What about abortions? Secularists typically support that, after all. Where do we draw the line? A child in the womb is helpless and defenseless, but this 12 year old waving the gun around was neither helpless or defenseless, he was violent and hostile.

That being said, the 12 year old made a conscious choice to cause trouble and wave a gun around, and unfortunately paid his life as a consequence.

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:

Armstdern wrote:> Kills a child
> Is justified
Yeah nahh

This brings up an interesting point, by the way. You say that killing a child is not justified. What about abortions? Secularists typically support that, after all. Where do we draw the line? A child in the womb is helpless and defenseless, but this 12 year old waving the gun around was neither helpless or defenseless, he was violent and hostile.

That being said, the 12 year old made a conscious choice to cause trouble and wave a gun around, and unfortunately paid his life as a consequence.

Sediczja wrote:

Trygg wrote:looooooooooool. I don't agree with life imprisonment, but isn't there something called using "necessary force"? Did the officer really have to shoot-to-kill?

You either shoot or you don't shoot at all, there is no "shooting to wound" as I understand it. That's why we have tasers and baton guns.

Armstdern wrote:They drove right up next to the boy, they saw the gun. They should of been able to tell the difference between a fake and a real gun.

If I pulled that pistol on you and you had a, let's say, one second window to identify it, would you think it was real or not?

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:

Armstdern wrote:> Kills a child
> Is justified
Yeah nahh

This brings up an interesting point, by the way. You say that killing a child is not justified. What about abortions? Secularists typically support that, after all. Where do we draw the line? A child in the womb is helpless and defenseless, but this 12 year old waving the gun around was neither helpless or defenseless, he was violent and hostile.

That being said, the 12 year old made a conscious choice to cause trouble and wave a gun around, and unfortunately paid his life as a consequence.

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:

Armstdern wrote:> Kills a child
> Is justified
Yeah nahh

This brings up an interesting point, by the way. You say that killing a child is not justified. What about abortions? Secularists typically support that, after all. Where do we draw the line? A child in the womb is helpless and defenseless, but this 12 year old waving the gun around was neither helpless or defenseless, he was violent and hostile.

That being said, the 12 year old made a conscious choice to cause trouble and wave a gun around, and unfortunately paid his life as a consequence.

Planita wrote:Archie has a habit of threadjacking everything.

Armstdern wrote:

Kriegers wrote:Having used real weapons and AirSoft guns, it's not incredibly easy to tell from any distance.

Either way, they shot to kill that boy. His death would've been avoided if they chose to shoot elsewhere.