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Erdogan: Women are not equal to men

Postby Vassenor » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:42 am

BBC: Turkey president Erdogan: Women are not equal to men

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said women cannot be treated as equal to men, and has accused feminists of rejecting motherhood.

"You cannot put women and men on an equal footing," he told a meeting in Istanbul. "It is against nature."

He also said feminists did not grasp the importance of motherhood in Islam.

His comments often seek to appeal to his pious core supporters, says the BBC's Mark Lowen in Istanbul, but they anger more liberal voters.

Turks who have more secular views argue that the government's social policies are taking the country in a dangerous direction, our correspondent says.

Mr Erdogan has previously urged women to have three children, and has lashed out against abortion and birth by Caesarean section.
'Delicate nature'

His latest remarks were delivered at a women's conference in Istanbul.

"In the workplace, you cannot treat a man and a pregnant woman in the same way," Mr Erdogan said, according to the Anatolia news agency.

Women cannot do all the work done by men, he added, because it was against their "delicate nature".

"Our religion regards motherhood very highly," he said. "Feminists don't understand that, they reject motherhood."

He said women needed equal respect rather than equality.

Mr Erdogan also told the Istanbul meeting that justice was the solution to most of the world's issues - including racism, anti-Semitism, and "women's problems".

The Turkish leader often courts controversy with his statements.

Earlier this month, he claimed that Muslims had discovered the Americas more than 300 years before Christopher Colombus.

In his 11 years as prime minister, Mr Erdogan became a crucial player in regional politics.

However, his reputation has suffered recently over the crisis in Syria, and accusations of authoritarianism.


Erdogan's crazy train seems to be running at full steam.
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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:43 am

Just from glancing over articles about this guy, he just seems to sit around all day deciding "Yesssss, what stupid shit will I say today........". This guy is crazy.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:44 am

Erdogan is nuts? This is shocking news!
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Postby Kanaria » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:45 am

That's crippling stupidity.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:47 am

Who votes for this man?
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Postby Vistulange » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:48 am

There is a reason I do not recognize him as my president. His stupid, reactionary and fundamentalist ideas do not reflect my own.

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Postby Olthar » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:49 am

So, if Cesareans are bad, does that mean Macbeth is banned in Turkey?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:49 am

Piss off Erdogan, before Ataturk gets pissed enough to roll right out of his grave and back into the presidency.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:52 am

Olthar wrote:So, if Cesareans are bad, does that mean Macbeth is banned in Turkey?


It's actually banned so Erdogan won't have to constantly repeat "AHH! Hot potato, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends!"
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Postby Olerand » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:53 am

I actually laughed out loud when I read this in Le Monde and came here to make this thread. But you beat me to it.

All I can say is hopefully all of Erdogan's recent moves, let's not forget the government in Turkey has decided to open mosques on all public university grounds so as to "bring mosques closer to the people", will end Turkey's long overdue application to the EU.

It probably won't, knowing the Eurocrats that we have gifted ourselves with, but one can always hope.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:54 am

Olerand wrote:I actually laughed out loud when I read this in Le Monde and came here to make this thread. But you beat me to it.

All I can say is hopefully all of Erdogan's recent moves, let's not forget the government in Turkey has decided to open mosques on all public university grounds so as to "bring mosques closer to the people", will end Turkey's long overdue application to the EU.

It probably won't, knowing the Eurocrats that we have gifted ourselves with, but one can always hope.

Wouldn't be better to hope for the AKP to get their asses kicked out of office?
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Imperializt Russia wrote:Who votes for this man?

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Postby Martean » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:54 am

Well, I hope they are not equal to him
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Postby Vistulange » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:56 am

Martean wrote:Well, I hope they are not equal to him


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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:58 am

How did this guy ever got elected?
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Postby Olerand » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:58 am

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Olerand wrote:I actually laughed out loud when I read this in Le Monde and came here to make this thread. But you beat me to it.

All I can say is hopefully all of Erdogan's recent moves, let's not forget the government in Turkey has decided to open mosques on all public university grounds so as to "bring mosques closer to the people", will end Turkey's long overdue application to the EU.

It probably won't, knowing the Eurocrats that we have gifted ourselves with, but one can always hope.

Wouldn't be better to hope for the AKP to get their asses kicked out of office?

How will that happen when Erdogan was recently elected as president in the first round of voting? In no other European country that shares that electoral system, namely France, can that even be imagined in a candidate's wildest dream.

But Erdogan got more than 50+1% in the first round.

Clearly, the Turkish people want him, or at least a majority do. Good luck to them, every nation has the government it deserves and all, and I wish them the best future outside of Europe.
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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:58 am

This begs the question - is he really that stupid, or is he just pretending to be that way to get attention?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:01 pm

Finland SSR wrote:This begs the question - is he really that stupid, or is he just pretending to be that way to get attention?
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I really hope its the latter, but even then.. both are pretty sad.
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Postby Herargon » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:01 pm

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:How did this guy ever got elected?
Turkey used to be a modern nation compared to the hell holes in the middle east.


It used to be.

Still, it's more modern than those nations.. but wait, and even Israel is more democratic.

But now seriously:

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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:01 pm

Finland SSR wrote:This begs the question - is he really that stupid, or is he just pretending to be that way to get attention?
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It could be both.
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Postby Vistulange » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:01 pm

Finland SSR wrote:This begs the question - is he really that stupid, or is he just pretending to be that way to get attention?
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He's pretending. It's solely to cater to the more conservative portions of his voter base - about 40% of his 50% vote. These people care more for his economic progress rather than his social positions - and when they do give a fuck about his social positions, they justify it due to his economic progress.

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Postby Olerand » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:02 pm

Finland SSR wrote:This begs the question - is he really that stupid, or is he just pretending to be that way to get attention?
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No, no, I'm sure he believes this shit. Just read his words. This guy is adamant about his stupidity.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:02 pm

the fact that Erdogan is an Islamofascist clown is well known, the real question is why given Turkey's proud history of secularism they keep supporting such a reactionary.
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Postby Vistulange » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:02 pm

Olerand wrote:
Finland SSR wrote:This begs the question - is he really that stupid, or is he just pretending to be that way to get attention?
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No, no, I'm sure he believes this shit. Just read his words. This guy is adamant about his stupidity.

He really doesn't.

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Postby Rupudska » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:02 pm

Erdogan is a retard, in other news, water is wet, Texas has oil, and Canada is really goddamn cold.
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