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[Servinta]

I'm not arguing, I'm stating that I personally believe that people are capable choosing or changing their orientation, the idea that certain people are born in that way sounds odd to me but that's just my opinion.

Your personal belief on this matter is incorrect. You couldn't choose to be sexually attracted to bricks if you wanted to, now could you?

There's people attracted to cars and animals, but I'm not comparing that to homosexuals, I just am stating that people can be attracted to certain things they choose to be.

[Servinta]

I'm not arguing, I'm stating that I personally believe that people are capable choosing or changing their orientation, the idea that certain people are born in that way sounds odd to me but that's just my opinion.

I'd compare it to body type, except for most people it is even more out of their reality for their psyche to affect in any shape or form.

Identity is more prone to fluidity than sexuality, though.

Elaborate on the identity part of your statement if you may.

[Communist Volkstrad]

Your personal belief on this matter is incorrect. You couldn't choose to be sexually attracted to bricks if you wanted to, now could you?

There's people attracted to cars and animals, but I'm not comparing that to homosexuals, I just am stating that people can be attracted to certain things they choose to be.

I'm stating you can't just choose to be attracted to something if you try and choose to do so. Try and be attracted to something or someone you aren't, see for yourself that it's not possible.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Elaborate on the identity part of your statement if you may.

I am of the opinion that gender identity is more prone to a tangible, accessible part of our unconscious psyche than sexual orientation, rooted deeply in the most primitive parts of the brain.

[Tekania]

Massive reproduction rates are beneficial to species with high mortality rates....... That is not the case with most of the present human race, especially here in the west. We can sustain population growth still even with moderate segment of the population not reproducing.

[Servinta]

Elaborate on the identity part of your statement if you may.

I am of the opinion that gender identity is more prone to a tangible, accessible part of our unconscious psyche than sexual orientation, rooted deeply in the most primitive parts of the brain.

PONDERANCE INITIALIZED.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

PONDERANCE INITIALIZED.

It's not prudence, it's queer theory. Garnier.

[Servinta]

PONDERANCE INITIALIZED.

It's not prudence, it's queer theory. Garnier.

I said ponder, not prudence (just in case that's what you thought I meant)

[The Rich Port]

Here's a page on it.

They're all fucking shitty, though, and already used by theists.

20% of gay people have over 1000 partners? Holy fucking shit! I don't think even Genghis Kahn had that much sex! If you're going to pull statistics out of your ass, at least make them realistic!

Nah, pretty sure those are realistic, but that seems to me an argument FOR homosexuality than against.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I said ponder, not prudence (just in case that's what you thought I meant)

Google Translate didn't recognize ponderance as a word, so I thought you were, like me, not a native speaker, and put this up: https://translate.google.com.br/#pt/en/ ... %A7%C3%A3o

Then I chose the most fitting one.

[Othelos]

Here's a page on it.

They're all fucking shitty, though, and already used by theists.

20% of gay people have over 1000 partners? Holy fucking shit! I don't think even Genghis Kahn had that much sex! If you're going to pull statistics out of your ass, at least make them realistic!

It's feasible. Someone (gay or straight) could just go out to the club most nights for a few years in a row. Or some nights over a more long term period.

[Servinta]

I said ponder, not prudence (just in case that's what you thought I meant)

Google Translate didn't recognize ponderance as a word, so I thought you were, like me, not a native speaker, and put this up: https://translate.google.com.br/#pt/en/ ... %A7%C3%A3o

Then I chose the most fitting one.

LOL weighing initialized!!!

[The Union of Tentacles and Grapes]

Google Translate didn't recognize ponderance as a word, so I thought you were, like me, not a native speaker, and put this up: https://translate.google.com.br/#pt/en/ ... %A7%C3%A3o

Then I chose the most fitting one.

LOL weighing initialized!!!

Monstergirls can weigh in too, you know.(in their undergarments)

[Olerand]

20% of gay people have over 1000 partners? Holy fucking shit! I don't think even Genghis Kahn had that much sex! If you're going to pull statistics out of your ass, at least make them realistic!

Nah, pretty sure those are realistic, but that seems to me an argument FOR homosexuality than against.

I clicked on the link and actually decided to read some of the arguments. Oh Lord.

There was even a gay man, supposedly, who argued against his own rights because that's a "straight" thing.

Like what?

I refuse to recognize the validity of marriage at all, and I choose not to marry. Does that mean I should ban marriage for those who don't share my point of view? Like what?

[Servinta]

Nah, pretty sure those are realistic, but that seems to me an argument FOR homosexuality than against.

I clicked on the link and actually decided to read some of the arguments. Oh Lord.

There was even a gay man, supposedly, who argued against his own rights because that's a "straight" thing.

Like what?

I refuse to recognize the validity of marriage at all, and I choose not to marry. Does that mean I should ban marriage for those who don't share my point of view? Like what?

Noted.

[The Rich Port]

Nah, pretty sure those are realistic, but that seems to me an argument FOR homosexuality than against.

I clicked on the link and actually decided to read some of the arguments. Oh Lord.

There was even a gay man, supposedly, who argued against his own rights because that's a "straight" thing.

Like what?

I refuse to recognize the validity of marriage at all, and I choose not to marry. Does that mean I should ban marriage for those who don't share my point of view? Like what?

Oh man. That's hilarious to me for some reason.

[Seno Zhou Varada]

There's people attracted to cars and animals, but I'm not comparing that to homosexuals, I just am stating that people can be attracted to certain things they choose to be.

I'm stating you can't just choose to be attracted to something if you try and choose to do so. Try and be attracted to something or someone you aren't, see for yourself that it's not possible.

I tried being attracted to my cup. Couldn't do it.

[Divitaen]

Your personal belief on this matter is incorrect. You couldn't choose to be sexually attracted to bricks if you wanted to, now could you?

There's people attracted to cars and animals, but I'm not comparing that to homosexuals, I just am stating that people can be attracted to certain things they choose to be.

This is plain ignorance. Are you honestly telling me that a gay person can simply go to bed, force himself as hard as possible and wake up being attracted to girls? Considering all the stigma associated with gays, if this method worked most gay people would probably have tried it already. It doesn't.

[Servinta]

I tried being attracted to my cup. Couldn't do it.

LOL, try harder.

This is plain ignorance. Are you honestly telling me that a gay person can simply go to bed, force himself as hard as possible and wake up being attracted to girls? Considering all the stigma associated with gays, if this method worked most gay people would probably have tried it already. It doesn't.

Ignorance, I think not, I've never seen any real proof that there is a difference between a homosexual person and a heterosexual person, so what says that the gay guy is born so.

EDIT:Theres also several people who were "Gay" and aren't anymore, just like there are straight people who suddenly become gay in adulthood.

[Divitaen]

I tried being attracted to my cup. Couldn't do it.

LOL, try harder.

This is plain ignorance. Are you honestly telling me that a gay person can simply go to bed, force himself as hard as possible and wake up being attracted to girls? Considering all the stigma associated with gays, if this method worked most gay people would probably have tried it already. It doesn't.

Ignorance, I think not, I've never seen any real proof that there is a difference between a homosexual person and a heterosexual person, so what says that the gay guy is born so.

Um, yeah, they are different. They are fundamentally different based on who they are attracted to. Attraction is not really something you can control. It just is. If you fall in love with someone, that's just what happens, you can't wake up the next day and try and be attracted to someone else. As for differences, look at the science, the twin studies, the differences in ear and bone structure.

[Servinta]

Um, yeah, they are different. They are fundamentally different based on who they are attracted to. Attraction is not really something you can control. It just is. If you fall in love with someone, that's just what happens, you can't wake up the next day and try and be attracted to someone else. As for differences, look at the science, the twin studies, the differences in ear and bone structure.

Biologically I mean, And there's also some studies on Bigfoot's droppings if your interested. (Had to throw that last one in )

[Servinta]

I also sight this agian:

Theres also several people who were once "Gay" and aren't anymore, just like there are straight people who suddenly become gay in adulthood.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I also sight this agian:

Theres also several people who were once "Gay" and aren't anymore, just like there are straight people who suddenly become gay in adulthood.

True fluidity is an extreme minority.

Conversion therapy doesn't work.

And the last group probably didn't choose to have attractions, but rather to come out.

[Olerand]

I also sight this agian:

Theres also several people who were once "Gay" and aren't anymore, just like there are straight people who suddenly become gay in adulthood.

Ex-gays? Oh hilarious. No, that's not a thing. If one is exclusively attracted to the same-sex, one cannot simply "be cured" or "pray it away" or whatever.

Those who were always attracted to both were never homosexual, but bisexual.

[Divitaen]

I also sight this agian:

Theres also several people who were once "Gay" and aren't anymore, just like there are straight people who suddenly become gay in adulthood.

Really? Then why does the American Psychiatric Association not only condemn conversion therapy as pseudo-science, but also highlights its psychologically damaging effects??