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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:55 am

Fartsniffage wrote:Are they removing 18 rated movies?

And what about their top shelf magazines?
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Postby MLK » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:57 am

Indira wrote:Video games don't make you violent. Violent video games don't make you violent.
Exposure to violence does make people violent. I have seen the repetition of this again and over and over again.
And of course, following that logic, we should boycott thousands of books (especially history books. People will insist on fighting bloody wars), films and plays. (Macbeth and Greek tragedies come to mind)
I don't disagree with that policy. Violence should not be exposed to anyone at any time. What society must work on is our nonviolent communication and peaceful problem solving skills.

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Postby Purpelia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Are they removing 18 rated movies?

And what about their top shelf magazines?

What about the newspaper. Plenty of violence in those if they cover world news.
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Postby MLK » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:01 am

Great Nepal wrote:
MLK wrote:When you take the violence out of video games they aren't a problem.

You have any evidence to suggest violence in video games is harmful?

If you watch a play through of a violent video game, you will see the player taking joy in hurting non playable characters or virtual representations of people. I pleasure in any kind of violence as harmful because the players of these video games could be showing love to real people instead.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:03 am

MLK wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:You have any evidence to suggest violence in video games is harmful?

If you watch a play through of a violent video game, you will see the player taking joy in hurting non playable characters or virtual representations of people. I pleasure in any kind of violence as harmful because the players of these video games could be showing love to real people instead.

You're talking complete shit.
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:04 am

MLK wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:You have any evidence to suggest violence in video games is harmful?

If you watch a play through of a violent video game, you will see the player taking joy in hurting non playable characters or virtual representations of people. I pleasure in any kind of violence as harmful because the players of these video games could be showing love to real people instead.

Or they could be killing real people instead.
Of course this is not an evidence that violence in video games is harmful (especially when harm is defined as causing violence). I was looking for some sort of journal article or perhaps even conference proceedings...
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:05 am

Great Nepal wrote:
MLK wrote:If you watch a play through of a violent video game, you will see the player taking joy in hurting non playable characters or virtual representations of people. I pleasure in any kind of violence as harmful because the players of these video games could be showing love to real people instead.

Or they could be killing real people instead.
Of course this is not an evidence that violence in video games is harmful (especially when harm is defined as causing violence). I was looking for some sort of journal article or perhaps even conference proceedings...

Why are you posting on NSG when you could be showing love to real people instead? Stop being so violent!
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Postby MLK » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Or they could be killing real people instead.
Of course this is not an evidence that violence in video games is harmful (especially when harm is defined as causing violence). I was looking for some sort of journal article or perhaps even conference proceedings...

Why are you posting on NSG when you could be showing love to real people instead? Stop being so violent!
These posts are fine in moderation but I think that some things people say can be nicer and more considerate of how other people feel.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:12 am

MLK wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why are you posting on NSG when you could be showing love to real people instead? Stop being so violent!
These posts are fine in moderation but I think that some things people say can be nicer and more considerate of how other people feel.

Where would the fun in that be?
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Postby Laerod » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:20 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Laerod wrote:From what the Kiwis here are saying that sounds like it's not really an option.

Surely Amazon delivers there...

If the hurdles for 18+ content in Amazon NZ are anything like those in Germany, then that's really not a terribly viable alternative.

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Postby Skinia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:27 am

For fucks sake, not New Zealand too. I knew beforehand that Australia was stupid in terms of video games, but New Zealand? Get your shit together.

Nevermind, it's not the government which does this shit, it's just a private company.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:30 am

Someone failed on the whole supply and the demand thing over there.
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Postby Jetan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:56 am

MLK wrote:
Indira wrote:Video games don't make you violent. Violent video games don't make you violent.
Exposure to violence does make people violent. I have seen the repetition of this again and over and over again.

Here you go.

MLK wrote:
And of course, following that logic, we should boycott thousands of books (especially history books. People will insist on fighting bloody wars), films and plays. (Macbeth and Greek tragedies come to mind)
I don't disagree with that policy. Violence should not be exposed to anyone at any time. What society must work on is our nonviolent communication and peaceful problem solving skills.

Bullshit.
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Postby CTALNH » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:58 am

Utilitarian Garibaldi wrote:steam?

HAIL THE PC MASTER RACE!

HAIL TO OUR GREAT FUHRER GABEN!

LET THE GABENING BEGIN!
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Postby Skinia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:59 am

MLK wrote:
Indira wrote:Video games don't make you violent. Violent video games don't make you violent.
Exposure to violence does make people violent. I have seen the repetition of this again and over and over again.
And of course, following that logic, we should boycott thousands of books (especially history books. People will insist on fighting bloody wars), films and plays. (Macbeth and Greek tragedies come to mind)
I don't disagree with that policy. Violence should not be exposed to anyone at any time. What society must work on is our nonviolent communication and peaceful problem solving skills.

It's better to be violent through video games than through other people, wouldn't you agree?
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Postby CTALNH » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:01 am

MLK wrote:
Indira wrote:Video games don't make you violent. Violent video games don't make you violent.
Exposure to violence does make people violent. I have seen the repetition of this again and over and over again.
And of course, following that logic, we should boycott thousands of books (especially history books. People will insist on fighting bloody wars), films and plays. (Macbeth and Greek tragedies come to mind)
I don't disagree with that policy. Violence should not be exposed to anyone at any time. What society must work on is our nonviolent communication and peaceful problem solving skills.

Actually videos,sports and most things that increase your adrenaline and make you more aggressive temporary make you less violent in the long run do to you having a outlet for your aggression.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:08 am

CTALNH wrote:
Utilitarian Garibaldi wrote:steam?

HAIL THE PC MASTER RACE!

HAIL TO OUR GREAT FUHRER GABEN!

LET THE GABENING BEGIN!

The Gabening is eternal, thus it never had a start, it has always been.

It is only recently mortals have become intelligent enough to understand its complexity and superiority.
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Postby CTALNH » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:12 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:HAIL THE PC MASTER RACE!

HAIL TO OUR GREAT FUHRER GABEN!

LET THE GABENING BEGIN!

The Gabening is eternal, thus it never had a start, it has always been.

It is only recently mortals have become intelligent enough to understand its complexity and superiority.

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"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 am

This is ridiculous a study has proven that violent games don't lead to real life violence.
Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI1fNjdeOvY
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:56 am

This sounds like fascism to me.
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Postby Skinia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:59 am

Greater Weselton wrote:This sounds like fascism to me.

Oh come now. It's stupid, but that's an exaggeration. Do you consider Australia, Brazil and Germany fascist by same criteria?
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Postby CTALNH » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:00 am

Skinia wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:This sounds like fascism to me.

Oh come now. It's stupid, but that's an exaggeration. Do you consider Australia, Brazil and Germany fascist by same criteria?

Well Germany does go all nazi when someone tries to portray nazi shit in any media
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"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Laerod » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:01 am

Greater Weselton wrote:This sounds like fascism to me.

That means so very little coming from someone sporting a flag like that.

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Postby Laerod » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:02 am

CTALNH wrote:
Skinia wrote:Oh come now. It's stupid, but that's an exaggeration. Do you consider Australia, Brazil and Germany fascist by same criteria?

Well Germany does go all nazi when someone tries to portray nazi shit in any media

Which is a lie no matter how you put it.

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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:02 am

Skinia wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:This sounds like fascism to me.

Oh come now. It's stupid, but that's an exaggeration. Do you consider Australia, Brazil and Germany fascist by same criteria?

They have fascist tendencies.
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