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Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:18 pm**

Because of the highly negative events associated with the faith in some way over the past 15 years. Nothing more, it'll be less hated in another generation.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:19 pm**

Burleson wrote:Islam's entire history has been filled with attacks on innocent people. Forced conversion of people in north Africa and the Middle East, the crusades, constant attacks on Israel, terrorism against America (9/11, Benghazi, etc.), Boko Haram's attacks, Sudan, violation of human rights and women's rights in islamic countries, ISIS, and the Iranian Hostage Crisis.

Don't pretend that Christianity has never pulled any of that terrible shit.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:19 pm**

Islam is my home, a beautiful region. Who hates it?

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:20 pm**

Burleson wrote:Islam's entire history has been filled with attacks on innocent people. Forced conversion of people in north Africa and the Middle East, the crusades, constant attacks on Israel, terrorism against America (9/11, Benghazi, etc.), Boko Haram's attacks, Sudan, violation of human rights and women's rights in islamic countries, ISIS, and the Iranian Hostage Crisis.

Crusades, Witch Hunts, holy wars, genocide, WBC, abortion clinic bombers.

Fundamentalism in general sucks

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:21 pm**

Murkwood wrote:I agree with the Catholic Church. Islam has radical elements, but it is still a better religion than most, as they follow the Abrahamic God. Abrahamics are good in my book.

Also, American Muslims are extremely nice people. Muslims, like anyone else, can assimilate.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:21 pm**

Its because Islam is dangerous and has shown itself to be so many times. I say we would be better off with out it.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:22 pm**

Kelinfort wrote:
Southern Arkansas wrote:I'm guessing it's because Islam isn't compatible with their social liberalism.

Most these people are socially conservative Christians.

Oops.

Those types are just worried about when they are overtaken.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:22 pm**

Kelinfort wrote:
Burleson wrote:Islam's entire history has been filled with attacks on innocent people. Forced conversion of people in north Africa and the Middle East, the crusades, constant attacks on Israel, terrorism against America (9/11, Benghazi, etc.), Boko Haram's attacks, Sudan, violation of human rights and women's rights in islamic countries, ISIS, and the Iranian Hostage Crisis.

Crusades, Witch Hunts, holy wars, genocide, WBC, abortion clinic bombers.

Fundamentalism in general sucks

Unless its Buddhist or Jainist fundamentalism. Mostly because I don't think those religions are actually capable of harmful fundamentalism due to their religious doctrine.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:22 pm**

Chumway Sucks wrote:Its because Islam is dangerous and has shown itself to be so many times. I say we would be better off with out it.

Geez, someone has it out for Algebra.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:23 pm**

Araksasya wrote:Just because of 9/11, c'mon 13 years ago, a lunatic fringe group did a horrible thing, but now peoplehave so much hate. We don't hate Germans because of Hitler and Nazis but yet we hate Muslims because of al-Qaeda and Bin Laden?

Really? Pretty sure we (atleast where i live) still harass the Germans to no living end about BOTH world wars. As for your so eloquently worded opinion. People hated and hate Muslims because before 9/11 we ( the american ppublic) knew little about the religion but we saw these terrorists with large numbers of followers claiming to be fighting for their homelands and faith. So naturally people were quick to judge and refused to open their eyes to what lay beyond the headlines like you know a book or anything that isnt the 6 o'clock news. In reality Islam is a religion which discourages violence eespecially against fellow Muslims.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:23 pm**

Burleson wrote:Islam's entire history has been filled with attacks on innocent people. Forced conversion of people in north Africa and the Middle East, the crusades, constant attacks on Israel, terrorism against America (9/11, Benghazi, etc.), Boko Haram's attacks, Sudan, violation of human rights and women's rights in islamic countries, ISIS, and the Iranian Hostage Crisis.

Christianity's entire history has been filled with attacks on innocent people. Forced conversion of people in north Africa and the Middle East, the crusades, the KKK and other racist groups, which would also classify as terrorism. The Yugoslav wars and other such conflicts, Sudan and other religious conflicts in Africa (remember: Even if Muslims started it, Christians are just as able and willing to commit atrocities in retaliation and in blind ignorance), oppression of women's rights throughout history, oppression of LGBT rights throughout history (Nobody is innocent of oppression women/LGBT, tbh) post/9/11 attacks on Sikhs (believing they were Muslims) and Muslims, as well as Persians and non-Muslim Arabs, etc. Bombing of abortion clinics (even if you don't agree with abortion, bombing it is still be pretty awful), the Westboro Baptist Church, witch-hunts, repression of science in the Middle Ages (even if they did preserve a lot of knowledge, so did Muslims.), I can count the World Wars if you count the conflicts between Muslims that aren't based in religion, etcetcetc.

We can all play the "X did Y, all X and bad!" game, if we feel like being really close-minded.

0/10 try harder.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:23 pm**

Murkwood wrote:
Murkwood wrote:I agree with the Catholic Church. Islam has radical elements, but it is still a better religion than most, as they follow the Abrahamic God. Abrahamics are good in my book.

Also, American Muslims are extremely nice people. Muslims, like anyone else, can assimilate.

Speak louder, some of the resident Islamophobes cannot hear you.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:24 pm**

Lunas Legion wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:

Crusades, Witch Hunts, holy wars, genocide, WBC, abortion clinic bombers.

Fundamentalism in general sucks

Unless its Buddhist or Jainist fundamentalism. Mostly because I don't think those religions are actually capable of harmful fundamentalism due to their religious doctrine.

Ever been to Burma? Buddhists aren't always nice people.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:24 pm**

Senyosu wrote:
Burleson wrote:Islam's entire history has been filled with attacks on innocent people. Forced conversion of people in north Africa and the Middle East, the crusades, constant attacks on Israel, terrorism against America (9/11, Benghazi, etc.), Boko Haram's attacks, Sudan, violation of human rights and women's rights in islamic countries, ISIS, and the Iranian Hostage Crisis.
Murkwood wrote:I agree with the Catholic Church. Islam has radical elements, but it is still a better religion than most, as they follow the Abrahamic God. Abrahamics are good in my book.

The contrast here is amusing. Yeah, Murky here is more reliable, at least he shows a source.

Think about all the good things they have done for society though, modern medicine, Malcolm X, Sai Baba, Malala [Dr. Oz :rofl:

]!

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:24 pm**

Lunas Legion wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:

Crusades, Witch Hunts, holy wars, genocide, WBC, abortion clinic bombers.

Fundamentalism in general sucks

Unless its Buddhist or Jainist fundamentalism. Mostly because I don't think those religions are actually capable of harmful fundamentalism due to their religious doctrine.

Burma says hi!

Although that's just mostly post dictatorship ethnic tension.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:24 pm**

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:24 pm**

The Sons of Adam wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:They are bigoted and close-minded. They saw 9/11 and assumed that was all Muslims. It has a lot to do with xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric as well.

Its funny, people call people bigoted when they refuse to agree with liberal ideologies.

Me a Liberal? :rofl:

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:25 pm**

Murkwood wrote:
Chumway Sucks wrote:Its because Islam is dangerous and has shown itself to be so many times. I say we would be better off with out it.

Geez, someone has it out for Algebra.

Its those jihad loonies.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:25 pm**

North Estrovia wrote:
Vladikavkas wrote:TBH I've studied the Qur'an it does say in chapter 72 to " Lie to the infidels and cut their heads off and kill them" and btw guys those infidels are anyone who doesn't believe in Allah. Muslims aren't Peaceful. Especially after 9/11 Hamas Muslims started throwing the American Flag on the floor and Chanted Death to America. No wonder why Americans don't like them. Also thanks our president Obama as Muslim as he is saying that its the Christians doing this and to tell the truth it's not, there is no where in the 2nd testament that says we should cut off the heads of people who don't believe in Jesus.

BS, you never studied al-Qur'an al-Kareem. Unless by "Study" you mean watch David Wood and Sam Shouman propaganda and FOX News all your life. You just pulled that out of your arse and have absolutely no context to go with it.

"Muslims" aren't peaceful? Really? Are you that big of a bigot? You can say that Islam isn't "Peaceful" but you took it upon yourself to say that "Muslims" as a whole are not peaceful which is absolutely repulsive.

How about you take your backwards right-wing conservative Christian kufr ideology and get off this thread because you know absolutely nothing of the deen of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. People that use your logic are pathetic, but alhamdulillah they are a shrinking minority.

More people convert to Islam every year than any other religion, by 2020 we will overtake Christianity as the largest religion, do you really think this would be possible if it was some hate-filled violent "ideology?" No! And by the way, more women are converting TO Islam than men!

I used to think like you, and I ended up seeing the truth alhamdulillah and I embraced Islam!

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:25 pm**

Napkiraly wrote:
Burleson wrote:Islam's entire history has been filled with attacks on innocent people. Forced conversion of people in north Africa and the Middle East, the crusades, constant attacks on Israel, terrorism against America (9/11, Benghazi, etc.), Boko Haram's attacks, Sudan, violation of human rights and women's rights in islamic countries, ISIS, and the Iranian Hostage Crisis.

Don't pretend that Christianity has never pulled any of that terrible shit.

Don't think I think much better of Christianity.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:25 pm**

Murkwood wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Unless its Buddhist or Jainist fundamentalism. Mostly because I don't think those religions are actually capable of harmful fundamentalism due to their religious doctrine.

Ever been to Burma? Buddhists aren't always nice people.

Then you go to like... Thailand or Japan (POST WWII KAY?) and the pacifism shows. Not in government though.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:26 pm**

Senyosu wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Also, American Muslims are extremely nice people. Muslims, like anyone else, can assimilate.

Speak louder, some of the resident Islamophobes cannot hear you.

I'm not sure the Islamophobes would care about anyone's opinion. They are too steeped in their bigotry, which is sad, as most (American) Muslims are great people.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:26 pm**

The Sons of Adam wrote:
Kanaria wrote:So you think Islam really is a threat?
And sometimes conservatives use it. Mostly to defend their own repressive ideologies.

I'm not a conservative. I take the ideas of best fit, like welfare and theocracy.

A third positionist? Oh dear...

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:26 pm**

Lunas Legion wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:

Crusades, Witch Hunts, holy wars, genocide, WBC, abortion clinic bombers.

Fundamentalism in general sucks

Unless its Buddhist or Jainist fundamentalism. Mostly because I don't think those religions are actually capable of harmful fundamentalism due to their religious doctrine.

The Buddhist fundamentalists in Burma are....yeah pretty bad.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:27 pm**

I love the Kurds, and the majority of them are Muslims. I do have a problem with political Islamism, which is facsist. If you look at my flag, it is a symbol of the YPG, the group that is fighting ISIS in Kobani, and who rescued tens of thousands of Christians and Yazidis in Iraq.

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Why do so many people hate Islam?

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