Transgender woman correctly buried as man?

[The Rich Port]

This is amazing in my point of view. He didn't feel right being a woman, so he changed into a man. And he should be accepted and treated as a man, he deserved this kind of a ceremonial burial.

No, you read the OP wrong.

He was a man who wanted to be a woman and was buried as a man anyway.

[Insensitive People]

She has every legal right to do this.

Moral right? Who cares- I don't care what your opinion of my views is, nor do I care about yours.

Hence my name and motto

[Ethel mermania]

She died 2500 mIles away from her family.

Wait... So the people that buried her... Weren't her family?

No no, my bad. The paper running the story is in miami. The events took place in Idaho.

[Eleanor Ritas]

I'm now about 70% sure this is a "sex is not gender" schtick and we'll be at Wabbit Season Duck Season before the next page...

Even though its entirely obvious that 90% of the time a government form asks you to put your "sex", they actually want your gender, which they insist is also your sex. To say nothing of the government documents that actually ask for "gender".

Well, with the GOP coming back to power, they'll probably just standardize all of them to say "white Protestant straight male" or "other" for every question.

[Euroslavia]

She has every legal right to do this.

Moral right? Who cares- I don't care what your opinion of my views is, nor do I care about yours.

Hence my name and motto

And that's not going to get you very far on this site. I'd strongly suggest you re-think why you joined a debate site when you have zero care about anyone elses opinion.

[The Rich Port]

She has every legal right to do this.

Moral right? Who cares- I don't care what your opinion of my views is, nor do I care about yours.

Hence my name and motto

Incidentally, it's also the motto and way of thinking of the Republican Party.

[WestRedMaple]

Did any of them ask for "sex"?

Wouldn't that be a bit forward without the form buying dinner first?

Tip of my hat to you

[WestRedMaple]

It is a statement of reality. I've filled out forms for school, driving licenses, carry permits, airmen certificates, selective service, USCIS, census, taxes, military, voting, etc....none required gender, let alone defining a 'legal' gender

Did any of them ask for "sex"?

Yes, many of them, but that's not relevant, so why do you bring it up?

[Fartsniffage]

Did any of them ask for "sex"?

Yes, many of them, but that's not relevant, so why do you bring it up?

I feel sorry for you.

[WestRedMaple]

Yes, many of them, but that's not relevant, so why do you bring it up?

I feel sorry for you.

In what way?

[Grenartia]

This is amazing in my point of view. He didn't feel right being a woman, so he changed into a man. And he should be accepted and treated as a man, he deserved this kind of a ceremonial burial.

Where in the fuck are you getting this bullshit from, people?

SHE was born, and had the label of "boy/man" SHOVED upon her, merely because she was born with a penis. She realized she was a woman, and began transition, and lived her life as a woman, because she was a woman, and to do otherwise would be to lie to herself and to the world. Her dumbass family and church and the dumbfuck in the funeral home decided, upon her death, to institute one final act of misgendering, one last middle finger to her very identity, and labelled her "a man", and shoved her in men's clothing.

This is amazing in my point of view. He didn't feel right being a woman, so he changed into a man. And he should be accepted and treated as a man, he deserved this kind of a ceremonial burial.

No, you read the OP wrong.

He She was a man woman who was initially labeled a boy as a child, due to owning a penis who wanted to be was a woman and was buried as a man anyway.

Ficks'd that for you.

Did any of them ask for "sex"?

Yes, many of them, but that's not relevant, so why do you bring it up?

Except, as I already explained, 90% of the time those forms ask for "sex", they really want to know your gender, but they're also stupid and insist that your sex is your gender, unless you're lucky enough to get a legal marker change. And yes, contrary to your bullshit assertions to the contrary, it is possible to get a legal marker change. Just because you don't know how to do it, because you've not needed to, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[Storybr00ke]

I would've let the close friends and family decide. I mean the people who know her the best. I mean he changed for a reason. I would want to be remembered as who I am not who I was, but that's just me. Bury him/her (using pronouns in this post are tricky) as a woman, or whatever their close friends or significant others believe is right.

[WestRedMaple]

This is amazing in my point of view. He didn't feel right being a woman, so he changed into a man. And he should be accepted and treated as a man, he deserved this kind of a ceremonial burial.

Where in the fuck are you getting this bullshit from, people?

SHE was born, and had the label of "boy/man" SHOVED upon her, merely because she was born with a penis. She realized she was a woman, and began transition, and lived her life as a woman, because she was a woman, and to do otherwise would be to lie to herself and to the world. Her dumbass family and church and the dumbfuck in the funeral home decided, upon her death, to institute one final act of misgendering, one last middle finger to her very identity, and labelled her "a man", and shoved her in men's clothing.

No, you read the OP wrong.

He She was a man woman who was initially labeled a boy as a child, due to owning a penis who wanted to be was a woman and was buried as a man anyway.

Ficks'd that for you.

Yes, many of them, but that's not relevant, so why do you bring it up?

Except, as I already explained, 90% of the time those forms ask for "sex", they really want to know your gender, but they're also stupid and insist that your sex is your gender, unless you're lucky enough to get a legal marker change. And yes, contrary to your bullshit assertions to the contrary, it is possible to get a legal marker change. Just because you don't know how to do it, because you've not needed to, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I disagree with your assessment. Do you have a source for your claim or are you just making it up?

You obviously didn't think through your words before posting. My assertion was not the strawman you created.

[Grenartia]

Where in the fuck are you getting this bullshit from, people?

SHE was born, and had the label of "boy/man" SHOVED upon her, merely because she was born with a penis. She realized she was a woman, and began transition, and lived her life as a woman, because she was a woman, and to do otherwise would be to lie to herself and to the world. Her dumbass family and church and the dumbfuck in the funeral home decided, upon her death, to institute one final act of misgendering, one last middle finger to her very identity, and labelled her "a man", and shoved her in men's clothing.



Ficks'd that for you.



Except, as I already explained, 90% of the time those forms ask for "sex", they really want to know your gender, but they're also stupid and insist that your sex is your gender, unless you're lucky enough to get a legal marker change. And yes, contrary to your bullshit assertions to the contrary, it is possible to get a legal marker change. Just because you don't know how to do it, because you've not needed to, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I disagree with your assessment. Do you have a source for your claim or are you just making it up?

You obviously didn't think through your words before posting. My assertion was not the strawman you created.

Yes, I do. Personal experience in my interactions with the government via forms.

Then please, by all means, tell me what your assertion WAS. And prove that I was attacking a strawman.

[WestRedMaple]

I disagree with your assessment. Do you have a source for your claim or are you just making it up?

You obviously didn't think through your words before posting. My assertion was not the strawman you created.

Yes, I do. Personal experience in my interactions with the government via forms.

Then please, by all means, tell me what your assertion WAS. And prove that I was attacking a strawman.

Then please do share which form(s)...shouldn't be difficult since you're claiming such a large majority

There is no honestly denying the fact that I made no assertion about it being impossible to change a legal marker. You made one up and attributed it to me.

[Grenartia]

Yes, I do. Personal experience in my interactions with the government via forms.

Then please, by all means, tell me what your assertion WAS. And prove that I was attacking a strawman.

1. Then please do share which form(s)...shouldn't be difficult since you're claiming such a large majority

There is no honestly denying the fact that 2. I made no assertion about it being impossible to change a legal marker. You made one up and attributed it to me.

1. I never claimed a large majority. I claimed multiple forms. ACT tests, voter registration forms, and my learner's permit. That's 3 forms.

2. You should really learn to stop fucking lying, especially when your exact words are on record.

Didn't the person legally change their gender though?

I've never had a single government form ask my gender in the first place, so there really is no way to legally change it

I didn't change a single fucking word (just in case you try to weasel out of it by claiming I did). Your very words betray you. I might've been born at night, but I wasn't born last night.

[WestRedMaple]

1. Then please do share which form(s)...shouldn't be difficult since you're claiming such a large majority

There is no honestly denying the fact that 2. I made no assertion about it being impossible to change a legal marker. You made one up and attributed it to me.

1. I never claimed a large majority. I claimed multiple forms. ACT tests, voter registration forms, and my learner's permit. That's 3 forms.

2. You should really learn to stop fucking lying, especially when your exact words are on record.

I've never had a single government form ask my gender in the first place, so there really is no way to legally change it

I didn't change a single fucking word (just in case you try to weasel out of it by claiming I did). Your very words betray you. I might've been born at night, but I wasn't born last night.

You said 90%. That is a large majority.

I didn't lie, YOU did when you made up the assertion.

There is no honestly denying the fact that I did not make the assertion you claimed I did.

[Grenartia]

1. I never claimed a large majority. I claimed multiple forms. ACT tests, voter registration forms, and my learner's permit. That's 3 forms.

2. You should really learn to stop fucking lying, especially when your exact words are on record.



I didn't change a single fucking word (just in case you try to weasel out of it by claiming I did). Your very words betray you. I might've been born at night, but I wasn't born last night.

1. You said 90%. That is a large majority.

2. I didn't lie, YOU did when you made up the assertion.

There is no honestly denying the fact that I did not make the assertion you claimed I did.

1. I claimed that 90% of the time they ask, they mean gender instead of sex. Not that they ask 90% of the time.

2. How the fuck did I make up the assertion when your own post confirms that you made the claim? What kind of mental gymnastics bullshit are you trying to pull here?

[Arcturus Novus]

You'd think that they'd treat her properly after she dies, but nah. I guess bigotry is more important.

[James Deans]

Nah, Idc Clyde. He wants to be a she, whatever.

[WestRedMaple]

1. You said 90%. That is a large majority.

2. I didn't lie, YOU did when you made up the assertion.

There is no honestly denying the fact that I did not make the assertion you claimed I did.

1. I claimed that 90% of the time they ask, they mean gender instead of sex. Not that they ask 90% of the time.

2. How the fuck did I make up the assertion when your own post confirms that you made the claim? What kind of mental gymnastics bullshit are you trying to pull here?

I didn't say they ask 90% of the time. 90% of those asking would certainly be a large majority of the forms that ask. How do you get 90% from 3 forms?

You still haven't explained how you came to believe that they are actually seeking gender and not sex.

In answer to your question, you created an assertion that I never made, and then falsely attributed it to me.

If you HONESTLY consider such a simple statement of fact to be mental gymnastics, then I feel sorry for you.

[Arcturus Novus]

Nah, Idc Clyde. He wants to be a she, whatever.

It isn't a "he wants to be a she" situation. It's a "she would've wanted to be referred to as she, even in death" situation.

[Grenartia]

1. I claimed that 90% of the time they ask, they mean gender instead of sex. Not that they ask 90% of the time.

2. How the fuck did I make up the assertion when your own post confirms that you made the claim? What kind of mental gymnastics bullshit are you trying to pull here?

1. I didn't say they ask 90% of the time. 90% of those asking would certainly be a large majority of the forms that ask. 2. How do you get 90% from 3 forms?

You still haven't explained how you came to believe that they are actually seeking gender and not sex.

3. In answer to your question, you created an assertion that I never made, 4. and then falsely attributed it to me.

5. If you HONESTLY consider such a simple statement of fact to be mental gymnastics, then I feel sorry for you.

1. Fair enough.

2. Logic and common sense. 90% of the time they ask, they don't need to know if you have a dangly meat sausage between your legs or a meat cave (last I checked, you don't drive a car with your dick or your pussy, for one example). Given the popular misconception that sex=gender, it is therefore not at all unreasonable to assume that they want to know what your gender is.

3. How the fuck did I create the assertion when you posted the assertion first?

4. I already fucking told you, I didn't change any words in your post that I quoted. That is all YOUR words, not mine.

5. Its mental gymnastics because you're blatantly lying (in open contradiction of evidence proving you're lying), saying that you didn't say something you literally said, and claiming that I'm putting words in your mouth when I give proof, despite the fact that your post is still fucking there, untouched. I've got the fucking screenshot to prove your post was unaltered.

[WestRedMaple]

1. I didn't say they ask 90% of the time. 90% of those asking would certainly be a large majority of the forms that ask. 2. How do you get 90% from 3 forms?

You still haven't explained how you came to believe that they are actually seeking gender and not sex.

3. In answer to your question, you created an assertion that I never made, 4. and then falsely attributed it to me.

5. If you HONESTLY consider such a simple statement of fact to be mental gymnastics, then I feel sorry for you.

1. Fair enough.

2. Logic and common sense. 90% of the time they ask, they don't need to know if you have a dangly meat sausage between your legs or a meat cave (last I checked, you don't drive a car with your dick or your pussy, for one example). Given the popular misconception that sex=gender, it is therefore not at all unreasonable to assume that they want to know what your gender is.

3. How the fuck did I create the assertion when you posted the assertion first?

4. I already fucking told you, I didn't change any words in your post that I quoted. That is all YOUR words, not mine.

5. Its mental gymnastics because you're blatantly lying (in open contradiction of evidence proving you're lying), saying that you didn't say something you literally said, and claiming that I'm putting words in your mouth when I give proof, despite the fact that your post is still fucking there, untouched. I've got the fucking screenshot to prove your post was unaltered.

You are not being honest. Seriously, instead of continuing to dig your hole, maybe you should actually read my post.

The FACT is that the assertion you claimed is not an assertion I have made. There is no honestly denying that fact. It is found right there in my quote of what you posted.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

You have to feel sorry for people who are so confused in life that they mix up their sex. It's sad, really. If this person was a he at birth, they are a he at death.

Murkwood, fucking please mate.