Transgender woman correctly buried as man?

[Eleanor Ritas]

EDIT: The OP has been edited for necessary corrections. The OP's apologies for the original, and any misunderstandings that may (will) arise.


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/c ... 55600.html

A transgender woman who died in Florida was buried open casket as a man, in a suit with a man's haircut, and given the obituary of a man, listing the bank she worked at and the Church she went to as a child. It used the pronoun "him" for her.

Is that right?

A funeral is a ceremony to gather in love, honor, and respect for the people we cared about most. It doesn't have to be reduced to just a chance for us to be reminded that we are going to judgment by God and it is wrong for boys to wear panties. Honoring life was what the ceremony should have been about, an act of love and loss that should be about the deceased and their wishes.

The obituary was technically correct but managed to omit the vital facts, rather like a legal response. Her transgender status, or even the fact that she was a woman in the eyes of the person who knew her best (herself), was omitted. Her parents (or whoever made this decision) apparently would be ashamed by everyone knowing she was beautiful brave woman who made one of the most painful but profoundly truthful transformations that a person can undergo.

If they had buried her as a woman that would have been sacrificing their own wants just because they loved her, and that's what Jesus taught.

Anyway, that's the topic of discussion and my opinion. There is an obnoxious prick in a loud jacket watching this news story about this transgender woman with me as I write this, and he's telling me that we should "road trip to Florida, fill the trunk of the caddy with a shovel, a nice dress, and 200 kg of post-mortem Maybelline".

Btw, if anybody lives in Florida and would take a little money to put some makeup and hair products and leave them at a specific location at a specific time once a year, telegram.

No poll. Just please read before you respond.

[Greater Weselton]

I agree with this. Amen.

[Shaggai]

I agree with this. Amen.

Sarcasm



Your head


Seriously, though, this sucks.

[Seaxeland]

Good. It's nice to see there are people who see people for what they actually are, and not what they pretend to be.

[CTALNH]

I agree with this. Amen.

Either you didn't read the op or you read it and your trolling.

Good. It's nice to see there are people who see people for what they actually are, and not what they pretend to be.

Either you didn't read the op or you read it and your trolling.

[Aperonia]

This is truly disgusting.

She should've been buried as a woman because that's who she is.

[Oceans Haven]

i am from florida but...what????? Also ehh im all for jesus but jesus also wanted us happy. Im mostly siding with having the deceased make their own choice.

[The New World Oceania]

I'm glad Wells Fargo got the appreciation they deserve.

[Bolrieg]

You know I've spent so long on the internet I can no longer tell between what's sarcasm or what's genuine. Does this happen to a lot of people or is it just me?

[Shaggai]

You know I've spent so long on the internet I can no longer tell between what's sarcasm or what's genuine. Does this happen to a lot of people or is it just me?

Sarcasm.

"A funeral is not some paltry ceremony to gather in love, honor, and respect for the people we cared about most. It is a chance for us to be reminded that we are going to judgment by God and it is wrong for boys to wear panties. That's what the ceremony should have been about, not some ridiculous act of love and loss that should be about the deceased and their wishes."

[Shiie]

This is truly disgusting.

She should've been buried as a woman because that's who she is.

No, he should not have been buried as a man because that was a woman.

[Zottistan]

Utterly disgraceful. I hope whoever is responsible is proud that they cheapened the last celebration of a woman's life just to demonstrate that they're bigoted morons.

[Seaxeland]

I agree with this. Amen.

Either you didn't read the op or you read it and your trolling.

Good. It's nice to see there are people who see people for what they actually are, and not what they pretend to be.

Either you didn't read the op or you read it and your trolling.

I assure you, I am not trolling in the slightest.

I merely read the title and agree with it. However, the op on the other hand is appalling, and I trust someone has reported it already.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Well, this happens in Brazil everyday. When families mourn after a trans person...

And our gender identity laws fail since 1996. Nobody is going to mention or bother with them. Most ~LGBTs~ don't even what's that about, even when they don't incorrectly use language that actually harms themselves.

Trans-exclusionary GGGG activists are the worst of all. Trans issues are never cited, you will rather see a unicorn than see a gay activist addressing transphobia as a separate phenomenon from homophobia.

It's not frustrating or revolting anymore. It just adds to a sentiment of being treated as mythical creatures, just like people do here, by inventing names for genders and sexual orientations that sound jocose. I may only pray for the day when the joke is stuff as we do today, like we talk now about the Dark Ages or fascism.

[Shiie]

Utterly disgraceful. I hope whoever is responsible is proud that they cheapened the last celebration of a woman's life just to demonstrate that they're bigoted morons.

This wasn't a man.

[Eleanor Ritas]

I'm glad Wells Fargo got the appreciation they deserve.

They also plugged the church she went to as a kid and her ex-wife that she divorced.

Okay, my pot-head roommate is seriously getting too worked up about this. He's keeps muttering "we need to bring her a pretty dress" and now he's into the cupcake ginger snap vodka. He wants to start a letter writing campaign to her family and he wants to kick it off with a David Foster Wallace + Hunter S. Thompson style piece called "13 Reasons Why I As A Straight Man Have Been Masturbating To Your Dead Daughter".

So, I should have put a poll.

Who hear agrees that the parents (or whoever made this decision for Jennifer and probably even mislabeled her grave) did the right thing?

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Nice sarcasm, man, but you might need a disclaimer for the slower folks out there It can be hard to tell on the internet xD

This is, however, very wrong.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

This is truly disgusting.

She should've been buried as a woman because that's who she is.

No, he should not have been buried as a woman because he was not a woman.

In a similar fashion, maybe transphobes shouldn't be buried as proper cognitively able and decent human beings.

Except, you know, our genders are far more legitimate than whatever void you people might have in the place of your genius.

[CTALNH]

This is truly disgusting.

She should've been buried as a woman because that's who she is.

No, he should not have been buried as a woman because he was not a woman.

She was transgender that means she was a woman you do know there are operations to change your sex right?

[Aperonia]

This is truly disgusting.

She should've been buried as a woman because that's who she is.

No, he should not have been buried as a woman because he was not a woman.

It is not in your right to tell transgender people on what they are. If they truly are a woman, let them do it.

You do not know the minds of transgender/transsexual people.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I assure you, I am not trolling in the slightest.

I merely read the title and agree with it. However, the op on the other hand is appalling, and I trust someone has reported it already.

It's pretty thick sarcasm, dude.

I mean-

Why should she be subjected to the shame of everyone knowing she was beautiful brave woman who made one of the most painful but profoundly truthful transformations that a person can undergo, when the real achievement of her life was that she worked for Wells Fargo Bank (who provide CONSISTENTLY good customer service and those who really knew and loved her would know that this was the achievement of her life, not the finding of her true self. Customer service is what sets a good bank apart.)

[Ethel mermania]

OP don't blame this on Florida, it happened in Idaho.

[Herskerstad]

I predict that this thread will be act as a becon on NS and help foster an environment of academic debate and mutual respect from all the political and religious background that participate.

[Shiie]

I'm not transphobic, I read the OP while I was making my bed & made a mistake. I edited my posts.

[Shiie]

No, he should not have been buried as a woman because he was not a woman.

It is not in your right to tell transgender people on what they are. If they truly are a woman, let them do it.

You do not know the minds of transgender/transsexual people.

Sorry, this was a woman.