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Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:59 pm**

Potenco wrote:
Hetmarch wrote:
Trying to kill a cop is.

Nobody tried to kill a cop in either case. As much as I support the motto "ACAB" these people were both innocent of any wrongdoing. Frankly Trayvon Martinhad every right to attack George Zimmerman, that fucker stalked Trayvon for three blocks and attacked him first and he has continued to be a reactionary douchebag since this ended.

Neither did Micheal Brown. Most witnesses dont think he tried to steal a gun, of course Darren Wilson would say that Micheal did because it makes him look good

You just keep spouting false information, That's about what I expect from a marxist.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:59 pm**

Potenco wrote:
Hetmarch wrote:
Trying to kill a cop is.

Nobody tried to kill a cop in either case. As much as I support the motto "ACAB" these people were both innocent of any wrongdoing. Frankly Trayvon Martinhad every right to attack George Zimmerman, that fucker stalked Trayvon for three blocks and attacked him first and he has continued to be a reactionary douchebag since this ended.

Neither did Micheal Brown. Most witnesses dont think he tried to steal a gun, of course Darren Wilson would say that Micheal did because it makes him look good

You just keep spouting false information, That's about what I expect from a marxist.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:59 pm**

Potenco wrote:
Hetmarch wrote:
Trying to kill a cop is.

Nobody tried to kill a cop in either case. As much as I support the motto "ACAB" these people were both innocent of any wrongdoing. Frankly Trayvon Martinhad every right to attack George Zimmerman, that fucker stalked Trayvon for three blocks and attacked him first and he has continued to be a reactionary douchebag since this ended.

Neither did Micheal Brown. Most witnesses dont think he tried to steal a gun, of course Darren Wilson would say that Micheal did because it makes him look good

it doesn't even matter if he tried to get the gun. I don't believe it either but even if true the cops don't get to gun down a suspect who WAS TRYING to get the gun but is now running away.

it would only have been justified if the gun had gone off at the car and brown had been killed then.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:00 pm**

You just keep spouting false information, That's about what I expect from a marxist.

Yeah, because somebody who honestly believe white genocide is a thing is going to be a proponent of truth

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:02 pm**

Intaglio wrote:I've tuned it out. The media has done a great job sensationalizing this, just like every such case.

Black kids kill other black kids in downtown Chicago on an almost nightly basis, nobody gives a shit.
White LEO kills a black man who dangerously confronted him, and everyone looses their minds.

Such is the world we live in.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:04 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Source that. As for the rest, there are different witness takes on this.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... lary-tool/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/m ... -1.1982854

Why do I not trust the first website...as for the second, was too slow, did not load.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:05 pm**

Potenco wrote:
You just keep spouting false information, That's about what I expect from a marxist.

Yeah, because somebody who honestly believe white genocide is a thing is going to be a proponent of truth

Someone who actually believes in a pay gap isn't exactly credible either. Funny how you stopped messaging me right after I called you out on that.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:07 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
Potenco wrote:Yeah, because somebody who honestly believe white genocide is a thing is going to be a proponent of truth

Someone who actually believes in a pay gap isn't exactly credible either. Funny how you stopped messaging me right after I called you out on that.

Like you are credible in this debate.

Seriously.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:08 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
Potenco wrote:Yeah, because somebody who honestly believe white genocide is a thing is going to be a proponent of truth

Someone who actually believes in a pay gap isn't exactly credible either. Funny how you stopped messaging me right after I called you out on that.

Well, I'm also someone who believes in a pay gap. You want to send some evidence for that claim my way?

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:11 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
Potenco wrote:Nobody tried to kill a cop in either case. As much as I support the motto "ACAB" these people were both innocent of any wrongdoing. Frankly Trayvon Martinhad every right to attack George Zimmerman, that fucker stalked Trayvon for three blocks and attacked him first and he has continued to be a reactionary douchebag since this ended.

Neither did Micheal Brown. Most witnesses dont think he tried to steal a gun, of course Darren Wilson would say that Micheal did because it makes him look good

You just keep spouting false information, That's about what I expect from a marxist.

already degrading into use of political ideologies as insults are we? Bout what I expected as well.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:16 pm**

The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:
Hetmarch wrote:Someone who actually believes in a pay gap isn't exactly credible either. Funny how you stopped messaging me right after I called you out on that.

Well, I'm also someone who believes in a pay gap. You want to send some evidence for that claim my way?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Pay_Act_of_1963

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:18 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:Well, I'm also someone who believes in a pay gap. You want to send some evidence for that claim my way?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Pay_Act_of_1963

And?

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:23 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:Well, I'm also someone who believes in a pay gap. You want to send some evidence for that claim my way?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Pay_Act_of_1963

Your source disproves your claim.

On the page you linked to

Try not to hang yourself on your next piece of "evidence"

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:24 pm**

Neutraligon wrote:
Hetmarch wrote:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Pay_Act_of_1963

And?

Since 1963 it has been illegal to pay a woman less than her male counterpart. Women do EARN less on average because they choose to work less hours or have lower paying jobs. If a man is making more than you despite doing the same work I suggest you contact a lawyer.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:29 pm**

The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:
Hetmarch wrote:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Pay_Act_of_1963

Your source disproves your claim.

On the page you linked to

Try not to hang yourself on your next piece of "evidence"

Did you even read the entire section?

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:30 pm**

I wonder what ISIS thinks of all this.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:32 pm**

Greater Weselton wrote:I wonder what ISIS thinks of all this.

What role do they play in this?

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:34 pm**

FutureAmerica wrote:What are your thoughts on the Ferguson civil unrest?
I say American cops need be mandated to use non lethal weapons against unarmed civilians.
They can use deadly force only if someone's life is in immediate danger. They can be tried for murder otherwise.

If any violence or looting happens because of the trial decision, it will only justify brutal force being used by the police. The protests must be non-violent and set an example. They can't be burn and loot protests. The non-black populace near Ferguson are ready to take deadly force into their own hands to defend their property. It will be a full scale racial war. How sad and ignorant.

If it were up to me, I would arrest anyone who is remotely related to the Ferguson civil unrest.

They are a threat to business and the social order.

Sometimes people break the law, sometimes people need to be shot (the Ferguson incident was unfortunate, but it happened). The police don't like to do it, but sometimes they need to shoot people. It's just a fact of life.

Starting riots is not an acceptable social response.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:35 pm**

Harpers Ferry wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:I wonder what ISIS thinks of all this.

What role do they play in this?

They are America's enemy and America has civil unrest right now.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:35 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
And?

Since 1963 it has been illegal to pay a woman less than her male counterpart. Women do EARN less on average because they choose to work less hours or have lower paying jobs.

Well, actually sometimes that choice is a little bit forced, but let's not threadjack.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:35 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
And?

Since 1963 it has been illegal to pay a woman less than her male counterpart. Women do EARN less on average because they choose to work less hours or have lower paying jobs. If a man is making more than you despite doing the same work I suggest you contact a lawyer.

That's what many women do if and when they find out...that does not mean there is no pay gap. Also, I believe that was an apples to apples comparison being done, that is women and men in the same field doing the same job.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:35 pm**

Hetmarch wrote:
The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:Your source disproves your claim.

On the page you linked to

Try not to hang yourself on your next piece of "evidence"

Did you even read the entire section?

Did you? The people that keep track of the statistic in question say that a wage gap exists. You provided no evidence to the contrary.

It goes on to say that career choices make an impact on that raw number so often quoted - 78% or so. That is true. Some of that ~22% is from career choice. However, here's some actual evidence for a wage gap.

Stratified by occupation

So, are you actually going to provide evidence for your claim? However, this is off-topic. Send me a TG or a thread link that this could continue in. Otherwise, back to the actual thread topic. Do not reply in this thread.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:37 pm**

Greater Weselton wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:What role do they play in this?

They are America's enemy and America has civil unrest right now.

True, I am sure they have asked the protesters to join theit volcano of jihad or some other such nonsense.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:38 pm**

The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:
Hetmarch wrote:
Did you even read the entire section?

Did you? The people that keep track of the statistic in question say that a wage gap exists. You provided no evidence to the contrary.

It goes on to say that career choices make an impact on that raw number so often quoted - 78% or so. That is true. Some of that ~22% is from career choice. However, here's some actual evidence for a wage gap.

Stratified by occupation

So, are you actually going to provide evidence for your claim? However, this is off-topic. Send me a TG or a thread link that this could continue in. Otherwise, back to the actual thread topic. Do not reply in this thread.

That doesn't jump the gun at all.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:42 pm**

I think a practical way to resolve these issues is to intentionally have Black cops patrol Black neighborhoods, Asian police officers for Asian neighborhoods etc. No racial group likes the perception that another is out to get them. The more segregated the races are, the better off the communities will be.

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