Is an Invasion of Mainland US feasible

[Germanic Nordland]

Lolwut? How exactly are you going to move all those millions of soldiers and keep them fed and supplied?

Supplied and fed, easily. They'd be supplied and fed as the lands they move through are now occupied.

Moving them; They'd need to have boats that would serve as a bridge between Russia and Alaska. It's not that far between the two continents
Then they'll march south! Drive south, fly south, it'll vary.

*Keep in mind that the operation would not be "too long". It'll be pretty short, US would surrender fast. In half a year, USA would surrender to the New Order, and accept it's place as an economical power, not world-police.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Lolwut? How exactly are you going to move all those millions of soldiers and keep them fed and supplied?

Supplied and fed, easily. They'd be supplied and fed as the lands they move through are not occupied.

Moving them; They'd need to have boats that would serve as a bridge between Russia and Alaska. It's not that far between the two continents
Then they'll march south! Drive south, fly south, it'll vary.

Are you aware of the amount of food and supplies your 11.5 million man army would go through per day? All of the above nations don't have enough ships and planes to keep them supported.

[Germanic Nordland]

Supplied and fed, easily. They'd be supplied and fed as the lands they move through are not occupied.

Moving them; They'd need to have boats that would serve as a bridge between Russia and Alaska. It's not that far between the two continents
Then they'll march south! Drive south, fly south, it'll vary.

Are you aware of the amount of food and supplies your 11.5 million man army would go through per day? All of the above nations don't have enough ships and planes to keep them supported.

They don't need 11,5, I said 85%of the men would move. So around 10m.

And per-date they don't have enough. This would obviously not be today, they would need to work for this operation to be do-able. And they would of course take a huge demand from Canada, as Canada would also be occupied during the war. As far as I know, americans have too much food themselves. I'm sure 10m men could get half of their food from USA while the rest can be sent.

[New Babylonia]

Are you aware of the amount of food and supplies your 11.5 million man army would go through per day? All of the above nations don't have enough ships and planes to keep them supported.

They don't need 11,5, I said 85%of the men would move. So around 10m.

And per-date they don't have enough. This would obviously not be today, they would need to work for this operation to be do-able. And they would of course take a huge demand from Canada, as Canada would also be occupied during the war. As far as I know, americans have too much food themselves. I'm sure 10m men could get half of their food from USA while the rest can be sent.

Let me make this simple for you.

Its not possible. Certainly not your scenario.

[Big Jim P]

Of course it is possible.
Scenario;
Germany leaves NATO because US is abusing it.
Germany strengthens ties with Russia;
German-russo-sio-Korean pact.

Germany strenghtens it's military; becomes a power ala Russia(militarily)
From Sibiria; a huge invation force would go into the north. From the west and east, air-attacks. Nuclear weps would be included.
Russian submarines could bomb the eastern-shores completely. Nuclear weps could be included. Half the fleet would be here, making it impossible for the US to use their ships as well.

Then the army would advance into the northeast, central north and north-west. Would take north part of US in a short period of time; occupy it.

German army ; potential around 1,5 million
Russian army; potential around 2,5 million
North Korean army; Potential around 2,5 million
Chinese army; potential around 5 million.
;This is a "small" army compared to the population, one that would not ruin the economy in the given countries.
85% of this would be part of the invasion. Would force US into submission; then refuse the Americans to ever have a strong army again. Would ruin the arms-industry, would gather in all US-weapons and would let the US -army consist of 100 000 people.

USA - no longer military superpower.

Nuclear weapons would not have to be used for the conquest.

Gonna use nukes? Can you say "kiss your ass goodbye"?

[Big Jim P]

Are you aware of the amount of food and supplies your 11.5 million man army would go through per day? All of the above nations don't have enough ships and planes to keep them supported.

They don't need 11,5, I said 85%of the men would move. So around 10m.

And per-date they don't have enough. This would obviously not be today, they would need to work for this operation to be do-able. And they would of course take a huge demand from Canada, as Canada would also be occupied during the war. As far as I know, americans have too much food themselves. I'm sure 10m men could get half of their food from USA while the rest can be sent.

10 million? So one for every ten U.S. gun owner. gotcha.

[Schutzgeidt]

It would be theoretically possible. In my opinion I guess if you could detonate EMP bombs over the US and shut down the entire grid then most likely an easy invasion can take place. But it's quite impossible to detonate EMP bombs over the US without it being intercepted by missile defense systems. You would probably have to have some high-ranking planted officials in full secrecy within the country to pull of something like that. Again, it's also impossible to do that given that the US has their noses on almost everything on their citizens.

Even assuming they could do this, 300 million guns in 100 million hands would make a successful invasion impossible.

Civilians vs trained military soldiers? I don't think so.

[Schutzgeidt]

Even assuming they could do this, 300 million guns in 100 million hands would make a successful invasion impossible.

Civilians vs trained military soldiers? I don't think so.

Also, what kind of invasion force wouldn't consist of various armed vehicles and aircraft?

[The Grim Reaper]

There isn't a sane military strategist alive who would consider a symmetrical-style invasion of the mainland USA.

That being said, we only remember the slightly unhinged military strategists - specifically because they tend to be much better at figuring things out than people who lurk on online forums.

I find it difficult to think that there is anyone on this thread who has genuinely produced an intelligent response that has any chance of detailing a potential plan to invade the mainland USA, if as the OP says, we exclude asymmetrical-style warfare. If someone thinks they have, you should probably delete your post and email the contents to your local recruiting office.

[Big Jim P]

Even assuming they could do this, 300 million guns in 100 million hands would make a successful invasion impossible.

Civilians vs trained military soldiers? I don't think so.

Many trained civilians, quite a few who are ex-soldiers, heavily outnumbering the invasion force, on their own home ground, supported by Americas military. I think so.

[Geneserath]

Of course it is possible.
Scenario;
Germany leaves NATO because US is abusing it.
Germany strengthens ties with Russia;
German-russo-sio-Korean pact.

Germany strenghtens it's military; becomes a power ala Russia(militarily)
From Sibiria; a huge invation force would go into the north. From the west and east, air-attacks. Nuclear weps would be included.
Russian submarines could bomb the eastern-shores completely. Nuclear weps could be included. Half the fleet would be here, making it impossible for the US to use their ships as well.

Then the army would advance into the northeast, central north and north-west. Would take north part of US in a short period of time; occupy it.

German army ; potential around 1,5 million
Russian army; potential around 2,5 million
North Korean army; Potential around 2,5 million
Chinese army; potential around 5 million.
;This is a "small" army compared to the population, one that would not ruin the economy in the given countries.
85% of this would be part of the invasion. Would force US into submission; then refuse the Americans to ever have a strong army again. Would ruin the arms-industry, would gather in all US-weapons and would let the US -army consist of 100 000 people.

USA - no longer military superpower.

Nuclear weapons would not have to be used for the conquest.

I had a feeling that this thread was principally informed by a Paradox Interactive gamer's interpretation of how warfare and transnational diplomacy function.

[Otrenia]

Haven't read through the whole thread, but I agree with most people that it'd be highly unlikely, and would require a drastic weakening of the US beforehand.

It is interesting to think about though, especially what would happen if we went into "World War II Total War Mode™" again.

[Geneserath]

It is interesting to think about though, especially what would happen if we went into "World War II Total War Mode™" again.

Which is really difficult to reasonably speculate, because it'd require the complete collapse of both the postwar international dialogue structures that've held international relations together and the globalized commerce that so interlinks the world's economies that it actually more often than not renders state-to-state warfare an ineffective tool of diplomacy.

I'm not saying that those two factors won't ever happen, just that the disaster that stipulates them will be so fundamentally transformative that we can't really properly begin to speculate what war and the world will look like after it comes to fruition.

[Kernen]

Even assuming they could do this, 300 million guns in 100 million hands would make a successful invasion impossible.

Civilians vs trained military soldiers? I don't think so.

Worked well in Afghanistan and Vietnam. The French had surprising effectiveness against the Nazis, though in a different capacity. The Soviets and Chinese specialized in pitting what were effectively armed civilians against some of the best trained military invaders of the time.

[The blood ravens]

Even assuming they could do this, 300 million guns in 100 million hands would make a successful invasion impossible.

Civilians vs trained military soldiers? I don't think so.

Civilians vs trained military soldiers in brutal guerrilla warfare against the invaders? Yep.

Even if you managed to beat the US military you'd still have millions of armed civilians making life excruciatingly difficult in the areas you already conquered. You'd be fighting a two front war.

Of course this is assuming you could actually move such an unfeasibly large army across the Pacific Ocean, and manage to actually keep them supplied which would be next to impossible considering just how far you'd have to move supplies to the front. Even if Russia tried to invade via Alaska they'd have to move supplies all the way across Siberia, across the Bering strait, through Canada, and eventually the US. Your proposed invasion would be a massive logistics nightmare. Also all of the nations included in this highly unlikely alliance have terrible navies, and even together their chances of beating the US Navy are slim.

Also the minute they start launching nukes is the minute the US starts launching nukes in retaliation. You include nukes in the invasion no one wins, and the entire world loses.

[Fortschritte]

Simply put, no. No nation would be daft enough to invade the mainland USA. Not only is it hardly feasible, but if someone did invade the USA, they'd get their asses handed to them.

[Grand Britannia]

Lolwut? How exactly are you going to move all those millions of soldiers and keep them fed and supplied?

Supplied and fed, easily. They'd be supplied and fed as the lands they move through are now occupied.

Moving them; They'd need to have boats that would serve as a bridge between Russia and Alaska. It's not that far between the two continents
Then they'll march south! Drive south, fly south, it'll vary.

*Keep in mind that the operation would not be "too long". It'll be pretty short, US would surrender fast. In half a year, USA would surrender to the New Order, and accept it's place as an economical power, not world-police.

Scorched earth.

Where's your god now.

[The Two Jerseys]

Lolwut? How exactly are you going to move all those millions of soldiers and keep them fed and supplied?

Supplied and fed, easily. They'd be supplied and fed as the lands they move through are now occupied.

Moving them; They'd need to have boats that would serve as a bridge between Russia and Alaska. It's not that far between the two continents
Then they'll march south! Drive south, fly south, it'll vary.

*Keep in mind that the operation would not be "too long". It'll be pretty short, US would surrender fast. In half a year, USA would surrender to the New Order, and accept it's place as an economical power, not world-police.

Live off the land in Alaska/British Columbia/Yukon Territory?

Hope you like eating snow and pine needles.

[Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah]

From books and comics to fan fiction and Hollywood foreign armies and terror groups are shown invading the mainland United States for a short or long period of time. But despite the writers pen or the directors voice how so is an invasion of the United States. Example from Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 the Newly radicalized russian government invades the United States for what they call an act of terrorism by a CIA operative during a massacre at a major airport. Other examples include Red Dawn, Olympus has Fallen, Homefront video game, Star Trek: Enterprise, fall of liberty video game, etc. areas of discussion amongst scholars, leaders and the average joe range from the economics of an invasion to the politics and will power of an invasion so do you as a reader or whoever you are is an invasion possible?

*exclude situations such as terror acts like 9/11 and other attacks should not be considered as they are only a single attack and not an invasion per se, Gangs, floods of illegal immigrants, and cartels, lone acts of terror such as the Boston Bombing or lone wolf terrorists are not considered.

Editors remark: In such things as video games and Hollywood productions I feel that invasion of the mainland United States makes for great entertainment as I grow tired of invading Europe or the Middle East or Africa all which have been done many times to much. But in reality an invasion of the mainland United States is unlikely for everyone except for 2 nations like China and Russia as its former Soviet identity. But even these two nations will have difficulty doing the job as such China and Russia don't have the will to do it and they would suffer politically and economically if they did. But it's 99% unlikely the U.S. will see a legitimate invasion by a foreign power anytime soon.

It would never happen since the far-right flat Earth society would raise up their toy shotguns and start throwing teabags at the invaders.

[Corunia and Mironor]

Probably not. Even if there WAS an invasion of the mainland US, the invaders would almost definitely lose, because the US has the world's strongest army.

[The blood ravens]

Supplied and fed, easily. They'd be supplied and fed as the lands they move through are now occupied.

Moving them; They'd need to have boats that would serve as a bridge between Russia and Alaska. It's not that far between the two continents
Then they'll march south! Drive south, fly south, it'll vary.

*Keep in mind that the operation would not be "too long". It'll be pretty short, US would surrender fast. In half a year, USA would surrender to the New Order, and accept it's place as an economical power, not world-police.

Live off the land in Alaska/British Columbia/Yukon Territory?

Hope you like eating snow and pine needles.

Eating snow, and pine needles while getting harassed by the population of Alaska. Nothing like fighting a large number of people with guns in the tundra, and forests that know the land extremely well.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Yes it is. The same logic I figured out that (could) break the Zionist entity's defences, can be utilised for other Western militaries more or less structured like they are.

Moreover besides... wait for it... North America is Russo-Chinese-DPRK territory at the end of the day. Why? Because, the indigenous Americans (of which USA régime killed 95-114 million of them in history's biggest genocide) originate from Russia, China in addition to the DPRK.

[Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah]

the US has the world's strongest army.

Can you say that again?

[Laanvia]

Do you REALLY have nothing better to do than waggling your fingers whilst trying to convince people that a invasion of the US is possible? Stupid forums like this annoy me...

[Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah]

Do you REALLY have nothing better to do than waggling your fingers whilst trying to convince people that a invasion of the US is possible? Stupid forums like this annoy me...

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