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Postby New Armarzia » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:20 pm

I have a back and for forth opinion on the Mormon church, I myself was converted to the LDS church at a young age and honestly would still consider myself a believer of the religion even though I don't regularly practice. I believe their core values, but not with specific social issues such as anti-LGBT beliefs. However, I am one of those people who believe in the idea of a religion being true, but the church not being true.

Overall the world is slowly inching to be more equal specifically with LGBT rights, and I am more then sure with time the LDS church will come around, but I am honestly still disappointed that they haven't yet. (Mainly due to my personal idea that there is no logical way someone could believe in an "all-loving" God who hates homosexuals).

However, the two main reasons I am such a fan of the religion and furthermore why my family converted is the atmosphere and people in the religion. For the most part Mormons seem to be some of the nicest people I ever meet, there are always exceptions, but generally they're great. And on top of that, the entire religion just seems to happier in attitude. The Mormon church believes in hell in a different sense and the religion goes so far to kinda imply that everyone will eventually go to heaven where I always got the sense certain other faiths believe that if you slip up your doomed.
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Postby Nord Amour » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:07 pm

I tend to be bias in favor of Mormonism, because I have not once had a bad experience with that community.

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:20 pm

Being a Protestant Christian, theologically, I see them as divergent and borderline heretical.

Outside of Theology, I have a high opinion of them, and they've done good by my family before by helping us move from our home about a decade or so back, when our own church seemed to turn a deaf ear to our situation. In terms of acts, I'd hold them up as an example to the rest of Christianity.
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Postby Blazedtown » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:23 pm

I've never knowingly talked to one in person. Can't really say one way or the other about the people, but their beliefs are a bit fucked if you ask me, but then again, so is all religion.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:27 pm

I think some of their beliefs are wacko but if they're not hurting anyone, let them worship a toe.
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Postby Senyosu » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:30 pm

The nicest people ever.

Like, a friend of mine is Mormon and omg I felt like I was going to melt and go into heaven they were so nice.

Their traditions are a bit odd, though I admire their stance on social welfare and communitarian values. And to be honest, they seemed like total pushovers at times due to their hospitality.

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Postby Newne Thernania » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:33 pm

they do have some weird stuff in Deuteronomy, like the extermination of all other religious groups, but I stick to most of my belies and keep some of the commandments.
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Postby Nickel Empire » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:34 pm

I'm friends with a Mormon and they seem pretty cool. He doesn't hate me even though I'm and atheist.
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Postby Wintanceastre » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:02 pm

The mormons I have met have all been friendly people, though I have met a few bad apples (But, of course, there are bad apples in every religion on Earth). That being said, I do find their teachings... Contradictory - Christian in some cases, and non-Christian in other cases. They define God differently from the Nicene and Niceno–Constantinopolitan Creed. That being said, I do see them as Christians, they simply differ from more traditional concepts such as Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Anglicanism, etc.
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Postby Cetacea » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:04 pm

Despite their conservatism and American-born value system the LDS doctrine with its empahsis on family cohesion, personal agency and communitarianism is very uplifting. The people are friendly and willing to assist, their men are energetic in the community, their women elegant and their children beautifully grommed and cared for. As a teenager I use to party with Mormon youth who freely consumed alcohol and drugs despite the limitations and of all the 19th century Churches the LDS missions were the least imperial and its missionaries contributed effort without demanding land. (Of course the modern institution of the Polynesian Cultural Center is a bit iffy, a hang over from the colonial Human zoos of the early 20th century.)

I actually like the fact that Utah economics and politics are dominated by LDS. The communitarian spirit of Deseret movement is a shining example of community development of a closed economy within a broader capitalist model. The wealth creation of the Church is balanced with its support programmes and requirements for internal charity. They are principles which I beleive need to be promulgated across all communities - I trying to do that myself, although without the theological aspects...

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Postby Sebastianbourg » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:55 pm

Their beliefs are very odd but I've never met one in person (knowingly at least) so I have nothing bad (or particularly good) to say about them.

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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:01 pm

1. The whole historical basis is bogus; it was based on early science fiction of the 19th century. My friend Martha Knight, whose family is from near Manchester NY where the golden plates were supposedly discovered, has a copy of the fiction book, which contains many remarkable similarities with the Book of Mormon.

So the whole system is filled with even more silliness than most other religions.

But! I have known many Mormons personally, and they have each one been remarkably honest, good natured and helpful.

So what can I say? Based strictly upon the Kantian principle, I would have to hope there would be many more Mormons.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:03 pm

Mormonism disgusts me almost as much as Scientology.
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Postby Othelos » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:05 pm

I don't mind Mormons in general, but the fundamentalist latter day saints have a bad reputation, and I disagree with many aspects of that branch.
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Postby New Waterford » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:50 am

Fair play to them. My own religious beliefs aren't exactly plausible either, so it would be hypocritical of me to criticise them for having stupid beliefs.
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Postby Prezelly » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:58 am

I don't dislike the Mormons, nor do I care for them.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:59 am

I find the faith nutty, but there are more nutty faiths out there.
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Postby Belique » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:02 am

The City-State of Luxembourg wrote:NOTICE: Keep this a civil discussion. Please refrain from any religion bashing. Please remember that there is a difference between stating your opinion and bashing someones religion.

What is your opinion on mormonism. The LDS church has a bad reputation for there very anti-liberal views and influence on the government of Utah. In there church they often talk about how they are persecuted still today. What do you think about the mormon church.

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I am against them. There conservative views as well as there hold on government and they seem to think that they are a gift from god to the world. I also dislike there complete dis disregard for the american constitution and the value of human rights and opinions.


Everyone is a gift from God. They have very little sway over the gov't in reality. That title would belong to Bloomberg. If ur conservative, you LIKE the constitution. Human rights? How about the right of that child to live? It's genocide!
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Postby Braberbourg » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:06 am

I'm against it like any Abrahamistic Religion/Cult. They're also quite mean to me but probably because I'm a Gothic.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:18 am

The only Mormons I have met in the UK have been pairs of what look like fresh-faced teenagers riding bicycles while wearing suits. They have name badges with the title 'elder' on, which seems slightly funny as they look about twelve to me. They have a niceness that is jarringly unconvincing, which tends to give them that aura of slightly uncomfortable in their own skin which Tom Cruise and Cliff Richards also give off.
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Postby Murkwood » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:39 am

They are a non-Christian cult.
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Postby The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:42 am

Murkwood wrote:They are a non-Christian cult.

They are actually a christian cult. I know, because I was fortunate enough to escape the insane thing.

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Postby Murkwood » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:44 am

The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:
Murkwood wrote:They are a non-Christian cult.

They are actually a christian cult. I know, because I was fortunate enough to escape the insane thing.

They may call themselves that, but they aren't. Mormonism flies in the face of most of the core Christian teachings.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:48 am

My main problem with the LDS Church is that it's impossible to take the Book of Mormon as a literal document given that the North American archaeological record actively disproves much of its contents. There's no getting around the fact that large swathes of the Book of Mormon are demonstrably false via archaeology, linguistics, and genetics.

In that sense, I have rather more time for the Community of Christ, a lesser-known 'liberal' branch of the LDS movement that doesn't hold that the Book of Mormon need be understood literally. I still think their theology is at best deeply flawed, mind, but then theology is to a large part a matter of faith rather than of demonstrable archaeological fact, so that's a wholly different issue.

And then I always feel rather guilty for bringing this up because the Mormons I know are all such lovely people.
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Postby The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:50 am

Murkwood wrote:
The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:They are actually a christian cult. I know, because I was fortunate enough to escape the insane thing.

They may call themselves that, but they aren't. Mormonism flies in the face of most of the core Christian teachings.

Christianity flies in the face of most christian teachings, but they tout themselves as christian all the time. Why do you get to decide what variety of cult the various religions are, but not the people that actually have experience?

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