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Postby Master Shake » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:10 pm

West Aurelia wrote:It should be legal to eat any animal as long as it's not endangered. There's no reason to favor one species over another. If someone goes to the pet store and buys a dog, then eats it for dinner, there should be nothing legally wrong with it.



Yes if in THAT part of the world such a practice is acceptable and doesn't bother people...

Maybe if you wish to do such things in the privacy of your own home and the animal was sold as food and not as a companion...

Have you never had a cat or a dog as pet?

If yes, then how can you eat a dog?

It'd be like eating your family member...
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Postby Banana Isle » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:56 am

Master Shake wrote:Its unacceptable and should only be practiced in times of War or extreme famine...

Banana Isle wrote:Dear America,

Why do you think that horse meat is repulsive, but think pink slime and GMO corn isn't?

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To both questions...

We were raised with it being accepted as a part of everyday life...

But seriously do you know how many My Little Pony fans there are in America?(literally millions of them)

You could give them all the gold in the world and they still wouldn't eat a horse...

Also same with McDonalds and Monsanto/GMOs we were taught to not question science and always listen to the government and the big corporations...

You know they have our health in mind...LOL(sarcasm alert)


Let's just all be thankful we weren't raised to believe that shit (literally straight up shit) didn't affect us. Just imagine if they advertised THAT the way they do with high fructose corn syrup.

I can already hear the advertisement: "Shit, your body can't tell the difference"
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:01 am

Banana Isle wrote:
Master Shake wrote:Its unacceptable and should only be practiced in times of War or extreme famine...



To both questions...

We were raised with it being accepted as a part of everyday life...

But seriously do you know how many My Little Pony fans there are in America?(literally millions of them)

You could give them all the gold in the world and they still wouldn't eat a horse...

Also same with McDonalds and Monsanto/GMOs we were taught to not question science and always listen to the government and the big corporations...

You know they have our health in mind...LOL(sarcasm alert)


Let's just all be thankful we weren't raised to believe that shit (literally straight up shit) didn't affect us. Just imagine if they advertised THAT the way they do with high fructose corn syrup.

I can already hear the advertisement: "Shit, your body can't tell the difference"


It doesn't help that the moment you mention you are anti-GMO to anyone in America they think you are a cave man and want to bomb anything invented past the year 1500AD....
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:09 am

No problem with eating horse meat. I object to it being labelled as beef though, I want honesty to be strongly enforced in the food industry by the government.
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Postby Cetacea » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:14 am

Master Shake wrote:
West Aurelia wrote:It should be legal to eat any animal as long as it's not endangered. There's no reason to favor one species over another. If someone goes to the pet store and buys a dog, then eats it for dinner, there should be nothing legally wrong with it.



Yes if in THAT part of the world such a practice is acceptable and doesn't bother people...

Maybe if you wish to do such things in the privacy of your own home and the animal was sold as food and not as a companion...

Have you never had a cat or a dog as pet?

If yes, then how can you eat a dog?

It'd be like eating your family member...


I've had horses, a pet pig, a pet lamb, a pet eel and a pet dog. I dont see any issues eating any of those species.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:18 am

Rhodisia wrote:Should humans consume horse meat?


People eat dogs, boiled duck embryos and live squid so horses really shouldn't be frowned upon in terms of "mmm, what animal shall I eat to piss of vegans tonight"?

If people want to eat horse meat, let them.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:19 am

Cetacea wrote:
Master Shake wrote:

Yes if in THAT part of the world such a practice is acceptable and doesn't bother people...

Maybe if you wish to do such things in the privacy of your own home and the animal was sold as food and not as a companion...

Have you never had a cat or a dog as pet?

If yes, then how can you eat a dog?

It'd be like eating your family member...


I've had horses, a pet pig, a pet lamb, a pet eel and a pet dog. I dont see any issues eating any of those species.


I've had neighbors who have eaten eels they caught in the river. They spend a fortnight strung up on the clothesline.
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Postby Avaerilon » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:21 am

I personally wouldn't eat horse, but I don't see any reason to ban people from eating it. As long as there are strict welfare standards et al in place, there ought to be no problem with it. Aside from the fact it's uncouth :lol2: (my opinion)
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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:21 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:The only taboo meat is the flesh of the cat. Horses and donkeys are acceptable human fodder.

I hate cats and would take great satisfaction from eating them as revenge.

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Postby The Fay » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:24 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Rhodisia wrote:Should humans consume horse meat?


People eat dogs, boiled duck embryos and live squid so horses really shouldn't be frowned upon in terms of "mmm, what animal shall I eat to piss of vegans tonight"?

If people want to eat horse meat, let them.

I've actually tried all of them. Duck embryos are especially good....

Seriously, I see absolutely no problem eating animals, so long as they're not endangered. Show me a dog and I immediately think yum....

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Postby West Aurelia » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:11 am

Master Shake wrote:
West Aurelia wrote:It should be legal to eat any animal as long as it's not endangered. There's no reason to favor one species over another. If someone goes to the pet store and buys a dog, then eats it for dinner, there should be nothing legally wrong with it.



Yes if in THAT part of the world such a practice is acceptable and doesn't bother people...

Maybe if you wish to do such things in the privacy of your own home and the animal was sold as food and not as a companion...

Have you never had a cat or a dog as pet?

If yes, then how can you eat a dog?

It'd be like eating your family member...


It doesn't matter if it bothers people or not. I'm bothered by people smoking and think that it's stupid that they want to destroy their own bodies, but I don't go around asking the government to ban smoking.

No, I've never had a cat or a dog, but I've had hamsters, tortoises, and birds, and it shouldn't be illegal to eat them either.
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Postby Jetan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:17 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Cetacea wrote:
I've had horses, a pet pig, a pet lamb, a pet eel and a pet dog. I dont see any issues eating any of those species.


I've had neighbors who have eaten eels they caught in the river. They spend a fortnight strung up on the clothesline.

Eel tastes great. Burbot is even better better though.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:49 am

I support it, if people are willing to eat animal meat they should be allowed to.
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Postby Shilya » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:04 am

I'm pretty sure it's legal here, though kind of rare. Demand is rather low. It's one of the things you just can't serve your daughters, for example.
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Postby Jetan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:23 am

Shilya wrote:I'm pretty sure it's legal here, though kind of rare. Demand is rather low. It's one of the things you just can't serve your daughters, for example.

Why couldn't you serve it to your daughters? :eyebrow:
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Postby Shilya » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:25 am

Jetan wrote:
Shilya wrote:I'm pretty sure it's legal here, though kind of rare. Demand is rather low. It's one of the things you just can't serve your daughters, for example.

Why couldn't you serve it to your daughters? :eyebrow:

Girls tend to have a rather favourable opinion of horses, and would likely not be quite fond of eating them.
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Postby Waideland » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:28 am

Kids are fond of all kinds of animals. Just take your daughter to a slaughter house when they're 4-5 years old, and you'll have a vegetarian for life.

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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:29 am

I hear it tastes pretty good if prepared properly, and there's no real good reason to ban it. The problem with horse meat being found in beef dishes isn't the actual horse meat, it's the fact that it's lying about what the dish contains- and the possibility of medicines unsuitable for human consumption having been taken by the horse.

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Postby Fralinia » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:29 am

I once had some horse at a festival my dad holds every year where all if his friends bring over various meats. Can't say I liked it, but I don't see any reason to ban it, provided that proper measures are taken to ensure that it is produced as humanely as can be expected and is safe to eat.
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Postby Jetan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:55 am

Shilya wrote:
Jetan wrote:Why couldn't you serve it to your daughters? :eyebrow:

Girls tend to have a rather favourable opinion of horses, and would likely not be quite fond of eating them.

Ah, I see. My cousin used to throw a pissyfit about metworst when she was a kid because it's made of horsemeat.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:18 am

Gauthier wrote:Just a Western taboo against eating companion animals.

Aside from places like France, where they happily chow down on horses. And Italy, presumably.


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Rhodisia wrote:I don't really understand the taboo here in America that's associated with eating horse. I've eaten it before, and it's honestly not that bad - I guess it's halfway between beef and venison in texture, and very lean in composition with almost no fat whatsoever. Overall, quite a good protein.

I know that there are some opposed to eating horse meat on grounds of them being 'pets', but why we exempt some animals from slaughter on sentimental grounds is beyond me.

What say you, NSG? Should humans consume horse meat?

My family owned a small herd of horses. I can't see eating a faithful companion animal. I don't care if that's objective or not.

I can't imagine that horse meat comes from faithful companion animals, rather farm animals bred and raised to be slaughtered.


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To compare them to mobsters (criminals who only care about profits and who would sell drugs and murder people under contract, snitch on their friends) is a grave insult.

Earlier you seemed to be operating under the impression that knights were very attached to their horses. Are you sure you actually know anything about the historical reality of knights, as opposed to what you see on TV and read in books?


WestRedMaple wrote:Should definitely be legal. Always seemed weird from the 'but it's a pet' standpoint.....how many pet rabbits do you think there are across the country?

Is it not legal?


Pope Joan wrote:It is strictly a cultural thing; we are trained to avoid certain foods, however wholesome they may be.

All those poor observant Jews without any tasty shellfish.

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I had steak tartare in Copenhagen which was horse, seasoned with cracked pepper and horseradish, on toasted crusts.

It was delicious.

Horseradish as a seasoning for horse? Bit on the nose...


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i find it distasteful (its almost an ironic metaphor for the fall of honor, chivalry, and the mounted knight in the modern consumerist society)

but don't see why it should be banned.

Humans are the master race and should be allowed to eat any non-human animal they want to.


Basically agreeing with this. However, I would also like to see dog, cat or even human meat on the market for consumption.

Dog and cat are, in some parts. I don't know where you'd get decent human meat, until the whole vat grown meat thing gets big.


Occupied Deutschland wrote:I hold the same objection to the consumption of horse meat as I do to cat and dog.
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It's the humane thing to do, honestly. Many shelters kill such animals as population control. May as well use them to feed people.

I can't imagine shelter refuse makes for very good meat.
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Postby Jetan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:21 am

Ifreann wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Just a Western taboo against eating companion animals.

Aside from places like France, where they happily chow down on horses. And Italy, presumably.

It's pretty much just Uk, and maybe Ireland that has any problems with it in Europe I think.
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Postby Sygneros » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:23 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:The only taboo meat is the flesh of the cat. Horses and donkeys are acceptable human fodder.

Never played Dwarf Fortress, eh?

I guess to keep from being completely off topic here, I have never tried horse meat but would very much like to. There isn't a lot of "meats" (as in, the flesh of an animal) that I would not try.
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Postby Key West » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:56 am

Rhodisia wrote:
What say you, NSG? Should humans consume horse meat?


Could've, should've, would've...

I'd try it perhaps...why not?
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Postby Jetan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:55 am

Key West wrote:
Rhodisia wrote:
What say you, NSG? Should humans consume horse meat?


Could've, should've, would've...

I'd try it perhaps...why not?

Do try it. It's pretty good.
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