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What ethnicities and groups of people do you consider to belong to the White race? This will be an important consideration for the future leaders of the future resurgent National Socialist state in Europe.

I consider the white race to be made up of members of lightskinned ethnic groups that originate from Europe. However, there are some exceptions: the Lapps are Siberian/Tungusic migrants: the Finns are the descendants Mongolic tribes and Siberian/Tungusic groups that had migrated westward into modern day Finland and mixed throughout a long period of cohabitation: the Magyars/Huns, as the name suggests, are the descendants of a cohort the Turanic Huns of Central Asia which had migrated west to the Pannonian Plain and were later separated from the rest of the Huns; the Bulgars are the descendants of Mongolian central asian tribes; the Albanian Shqiptars are a mix of Turkic Azeris and the Turks themselves; and the Georgians and Armenians experience deep racial admixture throughout the entire populations of their respective ethnicities. Of course, the Jews and Gypsies are not White either.

I also believe that a considerable fraction of Spaniards and Italians are not white, due to heavy Mohametan/Arab admixture in the case of the Spaniards and heavy African admixture in the case of the Italians.

What are your thoughts on this matter?

I think that anyone who has the need to define themselves as white can have the label. It's your's, really, please, take it.

Conserative Morality wrote:I think that anyone who has the need to define themselves as white can have the label. It's your's, really, please, take it.

Labels are meaningless if anyone can claim them. I can claim that I am a Nigerian prince with ebola but that does not make me a Nigerian prince with ebola.

Simple: if you fit no other colours of the spectrum, you're white.

I don't know, as I haven't give it any thought.
I haven't given it any thought, because I don't care.
If you have nothing better to do than come up with a scale for whiteness, I suggest you find a new hobby.

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:

Conserative Morality wrote:I think that anyone who has the need to define themselves as white can have the label. It's your's, really, please, take it.

Labels are meaningless if anyone can claim them. I can claim that I am a Nigerian prince with ebola but that does not make me a Nigerian prince with ebola.

Question, do we really need racial labels?

Idzequitch wrote:

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:Labels are meaningless if anyone can claim them. I can claim that I am a Nigerian prince with ebola but that does not make me a Nigerian prince with ebola.

Question, do we really need racial labels?

Yes.

Idzequitch wrote:

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:Labels are meaningless if anyone can claim them. I can claim that I am a Nigerian prince with ebola but that does not make me a Nigerian prince with ebola.

Question, do we really need racial labels?

This is actually what I was going to say.

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:
Labels are meaningless if anyone can claim them. I can claim that I am a Nigerian prince with ebola but that does not make me a Nigerian prince with ebola.

Oh, no, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this for labels in general. Just that people who have the need to define themselves as white are the kind of people that I wouldn't want to associate with, and who people who are white but not terribly racist also probably don't want to associate with. It's an abandonment of the label, if you will.

But what do I know? I'm a dirty half-breed.

By "future leaders of the future resurgent National Socialist state in Europe", I suspect you mean "current skinheads". And I honestly don't care what are important considerations for them.

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:By "future leaders of the future resurgent National Socialist state in Europe", I suspect you mean "current skinheads". And I honestly don't care what are important considerations for them.

You forget that national socialism is experiencing a rebirth in Europe as the common masses begin to reachieve racial consciousness.

I consider everyone who is not ultimately descended from Africans white.
I do however believe that that means "nobody".

I tend to base my beliefs on the continuation of Western Culture. Though I do identify as Caucasian/White, I believe in equality and all that fun jazz. I just don't think people should get shit on because they want to keep Western Culture alive. I mean everyone else is allowed to be proud of their heritage and culture, but if you're white and any one of these things, you'll likely be labelled as either a Neo-Nazi, Bigot, or Republican Radical. Regardless of your political beliefs or affiliations.

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:Question, do we really need racial labels?

Yes.

Why? Why is my color so important? Why should I let that have any effect on who I am?

New Celisia wrote:I tend to base my beliefs on the continuation of Western Culture. Though I do identify as Caucasian/White, I believe in equality and all that fun jazz. I just don't think people should get shit on because they want to keep Western Culture alive. I mean everyone else is allowed to be proud of their heritage and culture, but if you're white and any one of these things, you'll likely be labelled as either a Neo-Nazi, Bigot, or Republican Radical. Regardless of your political beliefs or affiliations.

Probably has something to do with Western Culture being the descendant of racial diverse origins and owing much of its ideas to people without white skin.

This coming from someone who fucking loves Western Culture.

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:By "future leaders of the future resurgent National Socialist state in Europe", I suspect you mean "current skinheads". And I honestly don't care what are important considerations for them.

You forget that national socialism is experiencing a rebirth in Europe as the common masses begin to reachieve racial consciousness.

God I cant wait for nazism to die out

The Jews, the Slavs and the Roma.

Hanchu wrote:

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:You forget that national socialism is experiencing a rebirth in Europe as the common masses begin to reachieve racial consciousness.

God I cant wait for nazism to die out

National Socialism will never die. It will continue to grow in strength until Germany regains its past Glory and all of Europe is engulfed in a popular revolution of the masses as they regain their racial consciousness. Heil Hitler!

Albe wrote:The Jews, the Slavs and the Roma.

The Slavs are for the most part white. Many of the Slavic ethnicities are descended from the Viking tribes of the Varangian Rus.

Regarding the Jews and the Roma I have no idea what you are talking about.

The side whose queen starts on the white square and who gets to move first.

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:By "future leaders of the future resurgent National Socialist state in Europe", I suspect you mean "current skinheads". And I honestly don't care what are important considerations for them.

You forget that national socialism is experiencing a rebirth in Europe as the common masses begin to reachieve racial consciousness.

It's surprisingly easy to forget about things that aren't happening.

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:

Hanchu wrote:God I cant wait for nazism to die out

National Socialism will never die. It will continue to grow in strength until Germany regains its past Glory and all of Europe is engulfed in a popular revolution of the masses as they regain their racial consciousness. Heil Hitler!

BURN IN HELL HITLER!

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:You forget that national socialism is experiencing a rebirth in Europe as the common masses begin to reachieve racial consciousness.

It's surprisingly easy to forget about things that aren't happening.

If one defines muslims as "a race" there is some truth in it. And in practice many do in fact see it that way.

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:

Hanchu wrote:God I cant wait for nazism to die out

National Socialism will never die. It will continue to grow in strength until Germany regains its past Glory and all of Europe is engulfed in a popular revolution of the masses as they regain their racial consciousness. Heil Hitler!

Why would we hail the Jew Hitler if we are concious of race ?

The Old Nouveau Riche wrote:

Hanchu wrote:God I cant wait for nazism to die out

National Socialism will never die. It will continue to grow in strength until Germany regains its past Glory and all of Europe is engulfed in a popular revolution of the masses as they regain their racial consciousness. Heil Hitler!

Please, please, please be a troll