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Saiwania wrote:

Maineiacs wrote:As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

It is her life so I guess not much can be done. I mean, I'd really hate for my children to marry outside of their race, but if it does happen; what am I going to do- disown them?

Firsthome wrote:

Threlizdun wrote:As an 18 year old girl, this thread makes me fear my own safety should I ever have to encounter some of these people.

As a 15 year old male, I feel bad that men rape people....

And that men doing that make people scared...

And that I'm submissive.

The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:

Firsthome wrote:
As a 15 year old male, I feel bad that men rape people....

And that men doing that make people scared...

And that I'm submissive.

You really aren't helping. You're just being creepy. Find a 16 year old Dom and stop talking about it.

Firsthome wrote:And no, I'm too young for that


I'm keeping my "v-card"

Threlizdun wrote:

Maineiacs wrote:As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

As an 18 year old girl, this thread makes me fear my own safety should I ever have to encounter some of these people.

Firsthome wrote:What are races? It's not like she's going to marry a different species

Maineiacs wrote:As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

United States of The One Percent wrote:

The Arctic Kingdom wrote:This thread is going to be a blast

Yeah, a bunch of guys complaining about how bad life is these days for rapists. What's next, how young black men always seem to get in the way of the bullets when white cops happen to be shooting I suppose.

Have any of you known any woman who has been raped? I have. Would you be calling your female friends and relations these kinds of names if they had been raped?

Here's a thought: instead of "dicking around on the Internet" for your information, try talking to a rape victim. Until you have some better information than what you can find on Wikipedia about some topic, how about shutting the fuck up about it?

Maineiacs wrote:As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

Sebastianbourg wrote:

Maineiacs wrote:As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

I hope I'm not one of those guys; I'm not a rapist in the making!

Haktiva wrote:

Threlizdun wrote:As an 18 year old girl, this thread makes me fear my own safety should I ever have to encounter some of these people.

so take some steps to protect yourself. you're not powerless.

Sebastianbourg wrote:I'm not complaining about rapists (for all I care they can be treated miserably); I'm complaining about what the definition of rape and sexual harassment has come to be.

United States of The One Percent wrote:

Sebastianbourg wrote:I'm not complaining about rapists (for all I care they can be treated miserably); I'm complaining about what the definition of rape and sexual harassment has come to be.

Then I take it you'd favor the concept of positive consent, that is, you don't get to fool around with a woman unless she actually says you can. Wouldn't that pretty much take care of the definition problem? A woman who hasn't said, "yes," to a sexual approach that is then carried out anyway is a victim of sexual harassment. Works for me.

P.S. Have you ever known a woman who was sexually assaulted?

Soldati senza confini wrote:

United States of The One Percent wrote:
Then I take it you'd favor the concept of positive consent, that is, you don't get to fool around with a woman unless she actually says you can. Wouldn't that pretty much take care of the definition problem? A woman who hasn't said, "yes," to a sexual approach that is then carried out anyway is a victim of sexual harassment. Works for me.

P.S. Have you ever known a woman who was sexually assaulted?

I've dated a woman who has been sexually assaulted. We both were very communicative, but I never really asked every moment if I was doing was right or not. However, I did pay attention to her body reactions a lot and learned how she expresses herself non-verbally to make sure I wasn't making her uncomfortable. I did ask her on big things if she was comfortable with it and even explicitly told her that if I ever made her uncomfortable to tell me to stop. She told me to stop a few times and I just backed off and kept talking with her like normal.

It really isn't that hard to put boundaries, but it does take effort from both sides, something I see many people just botching it because they're lazy.

so do you still talk with her

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
I've dated a woman who has been sexually assaulted. We both were very communicative, but I never really asked every moment if I was doing was right or not. However, I did pay attention to her body reactions a lot and learned how she expresses herself non-verbally to make sure I wasn't making her uncomfortable. I did ask her on big things if she was comfortable with it and even explicitly told her that if I ever made her uncomfortable to tell me to stop. She told me to stop a few times and I just backed off and kept talking with her like normal.

It really isn't that hard to put boundaries, but it does take effort from both sides, something I see many people just botching it because they're lazy.

so do you still talk with her

Soldati senza confini wrote:

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:

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so do you still talk with her

I do, yea. We're good friends. I broke it off because we couldn't work out our differences in our careers with our relationship so I decided it probably wasn't the best.

But what I said is more or less in support of One Percent's point. That people who are lazy in a relationship to not know their partner well enough tend to fuck up at the very basics which is when does their partner feel comfortable or not. Knowing your partner is important, and there's no excuse to be lazy about not knowing your partner and treating them like a person.

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
I do, yea. We're good friends. I broke it off because we couldn't work out our differences in our careers with our relationship so I decided it probably wasn't the best.

But what I said is more or less in support of One Percent's point. That people who are lazy in a relationship to not know their partner well enough tend to fuck up at the very basics which is when does their partner feel comfortable or not. Knowing your partner is important, and there's no excuse to be lazy about not knowing your partner and treating them like a person.

I am 16, but my gf has a problem in her family, parents problem.
Father cheats on mother, stuff like that. In the first days that i met her, she was shy and really depressed.
Maybe my ladies man skills(girls and boys say that to me a lot), got her in the mood, but I think I worked hard to understand her, to be with her in her problems. Since the day we officially got together, she was the brightest and cutest, most loving girl ever. Too bad, my parents were sent in Canada for Diplomatic mission, still I talk with her, everyday and she always says:
"I will wait for you, even if it takes my whole life to wait.
Of course, she becomes jealous with me when other girls hit on me, but she and I knows, those are just phases for me.
Maybe I am too young but I have a way with girls, even 2 to 6 years older than me, even when I don't want to flirt it looks like flirting and they fall for it.

Threlizdun wrote:

Maineiacs wrote:As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

As an 18 year old girl, this thread makes me fear my own safety should I ever have to encounter some of these people.

United States of The One Percent wrote:

Sebastianbourg wrote:I'm not complaining about rapists (for all I care they can be treated miserably); I'm complaining about what the definition of rape and sexual harassment has come to be.

Then I take it you'd favor the concept of positive consent, that is, you don't get to fool around with a woman unless she actually says you can. Wouldn't that pretty much take care of the definition problem? A woman who hasn't said, "yes," to a sexual approach that is then carried out anyway is a victim of sexual harassment. Works for me.

P.S. Have you ever known a woman who was sexually assaulted?

Sebastianbourg wrote:

United States of The One Percent wrote:
Then I take it you'd favor the concept of positive consent, that is, you don't get to fool around with a woman unless she actually says you can. Wouldn't that pretty much take care of the definition problem? A woman who hasn't said, "yes," to a sexual approach that is then carried out anyway is a victim of sexual harassment. Works for me.

P.S. Have you ever known a woman who was sexually assaulted?

1) How do you prove consent? What if she decides she was drunk and her yes isn't valid and decides to sue me? Besides, sometimes sex is spontaneous; it's not rape just spontaneous.

Vamtrl wrote:

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:I am 16, but my gf has a problem in her family, parents problem.
Father cheats on mother, stuff like that. In the first days that i met her, she was shy and really depressed.
Maybe my ladies man skills(girls and boys say that to me a lot), got her in the mood, but I think I worked hard to understand her, to be with her in her problems. Since the day we officially got together, she was the brightest and cutest, most loving girl ever. Too bad, my parents were sent in Canada for Diplomatic mission, still I talk with her, everyday and she always says:
"I will wait for you, even if it takes my whole life to wait.
Of course, she becomes jealous with me when other girls hit on me, but she and I knows, those are just phases for me.
Maybe I am too young but I have a way with girls, even 2 to 6 years older than me, even when I don't want to flirt it looks like flirting and they fall for it.

lmao leading on a socially crippled girl while you have your phases

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:

Vamtrl wrote:
lmao leading on a socially crippled girl while you have your phases

why so mean? at least i have a gf

Vamtrl wrote:

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:why so mean? at least i have a gf

please I cant...

Tahar Joblis wrote:

Haktiva wrote:Feminism is largely about making money while changing culture for the worst nowadays. Feminism is the business of professional victims.

Feminism is more complicated and more simple than that.

Simply, feminism is about making sure that women don't get screwed over.

Yes, there are some professional feminists, and some of those professional feminists have a business model of professional victims. Some feminists seem more interested in propagating and sustaining their movement and funding engine than in actually getting things done. But overall, once you sort past the bad actors, scam artists, and occasional raging hate-filled maniac, the movement has a clear mission of trying to make sure that no woman ever gets screwed over for any reason.

The problem, of course, is that sometimes, trying to make sure all women are protected from everything has collateral effects that aren't very nice or fair.