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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:12 am

High school football hazing involving rape outraged community.
A small New Jersey town is reeling weeks after seven high-school varsity American football players were accused of charges ranging from hazing to aggravated sexual assault earlier this month.

According to the victims, seniors on the Sayreville War Memorial High School team would run into the locker room, turn the lights off, pin them to the floor and, at the very least, grab their buttocks. This allegedly happened on multiple occasions between 19 and 29 September.

Three of the players are facing more serious charges, including the sexual penetration of one victim.

This may have been a orchestrated event. Four players would hold a victim on the floor while two were on lookout, one parent told NJ.com after their son confided in them. One player would signal the start of the process with a howl, then turn off the lights and assault the freshman.

Two victims interviewed by the New York Times, including one who said he was digitally penetrated from behind, said they were wearing football pants at the time and didn't consider what happened to be that serious.

Stories of older members of the team pinning down freshmen team-mates and assaulting them in a dark locker room as others cheered initially shocked the community. But after superintendent of schools Richard Labbe cancelled the rest of the team's season, many students and parents defended the programme and criticised what they saw as a punishment that extended to players who were not involved.

"If freshman thought we hated them before, we sure as hell hate them now," one 16-year-old student wrote on Twitter shortly after the season was cancelled.

During a school board meeting, according to Sports Illustrated, dozens of players and parents protested against the decision to cancel the season.

"They were talking about a butt being grabbed," one player's mother, Madeline Thillet, said. "That's about it. No one was hurt. No one died."

In reaction to the extreme backlash, the victims may be minimising the story, say Nate Shweber, Kim Barker and Jason Grant in the New York Times. They write that there has been an "atmosphere of recrimination" since the season's cancellation.

"The search is on for the snitches - the kids who killed football in Sayreville," they write.

Gary Phillips of the Journal News, a newspaper in the Lower Hudson River Valley of New York, says he has a problem with how many people have been referring to what happened as hazing at all. He writes that hazing is a part of team culture, but it is too often an excuse to bully or cause suffering.

What happened in Sayreville was not hazing, he says. What happened had nothing to do with initiation or building camaraderie.

"By calling sexual abuse hazing, society grants those perpetrators a free pass and downplays the brutality of their actions," he writes. "What is actually a very serious crime is passed off as a 'rite of passage' ritual that went too far."

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Did the school go to far in cancelling the football program? Did they not go far enough? Should the perpetrators be facing criminal charges?
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Postby Murkwood » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:14 am

I live close to Sayerville, and this has been the talk of the town for a while. Really sad. :(
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Postby Alistan » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:16 am

Police should've arrested the perpetrators of sexual assault, and be brought to court.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:24 am

Oops... Just realized I didn't include my opinion in the OP...
To address that omission, I'll answer my own questions here:
1: Did the school go too far in cancelling the football program?
No, they didn't go too far. Cancelling the football program for the remainder of the year is, in my opinion, the absolute least that should have been done.
2: Did they not go far enough?
See my answer to #1... Additionally the accused should be suspended from school (if not expelled) for at least a week and barred from taking part in any school sports for at least the remainder of the school year, if not the remainder of their school career.
3:Should the perpetrators be facing criminal charges?
Yes, they most certainly should be facing criminal charges.
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Postby Landenburg » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:33 am

I think that the alleged students on the team involved should have been suspended with an investigation searching for any others that were involved. But the season getting canceled? That's not fair to the other members of the team, unless they had known what was going on.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:36 am

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:40 am

Honestly, something as serious as this is going around and people are complaining that their silly sportsing has been cancelled. Priorities :palm:
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Postby Margno » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:44 am

Prototypical example of immature thinking. Clearly the snitches killed football, not the guys who did the hazing it got cancelled over.
It doesn't even matter if the school is right. That's just a simple attribution bias.
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Postby Planita » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:44 am

Someone gets sexually assaulted.... HEY WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SPORTS!!

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:44 am

The coaches were suspended yesterday (10/21) and in the school board meeting at which the decision was made, people attempted to blame the board for not training the coaches to deal with bullying. Seriously? When members of your football team avoid the locker rooms and change elsewhere before practice, wouldn't you be at least a little suspicious?

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Postby Vamtrl » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:45 am

I bet these same group of people make fun of homosexuals. :?

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Postby Planita » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:46 am

Farnhamia wrote:The coaches were suspended yesterday (10/21) and in the school board meeting at which the decision was made, people attempted to blame the board for not training the coaches to deal with bullying. Seriously? When members of your football team avoid the locker rooms and change elsewhere before practice, wouldn't you be at least a little suspicious?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/22/nyreg ... -case.html

I wonder what they are doing in there.... f*ck it.
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Postby Senyosu » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:48 am

Vamtrl wrote:I bet these same group of people make fun of homosexuals. :?

Usually is.

It's not homo for these players to be the 'top' during that incident!!1!

Would be their secondary complaint after muh sportz dur hur!1!1

In short, the deserve nothing but punishment.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:48 am

How about dem football, you can't stop football, I don't care if some kid got his bum pecked out, its FOOTBALL!

FOOTBALL!

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In other words, fuck the people bitching about the ending season, blame the fucking idiots with no sensibilities, not the people they hazed.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:03 pm

Pretty severe victim blaming there.

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Postby Sacred United Rome » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:04 pm

Those that sodomized any of the victims should be hanged to death for sodomy, the people that did not sodomize any of the victims but still participated in sexual hazing should be whipped really really bad.
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Sacred United Rome wrote:Those that physically sodomized the victims should be hanged to death for sodomy, the people that did not sodomize the victim but still participated in sexual hazing should be whipped.

Because fuck modern day punishments amirite?

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Sacred United Rome wrote:Those that sodomized any of the victims should be hanged to death for sodomy, the people that did not sodomize any of the victims but still participated in sexual hazing should be whipped really really bad.

This isn't the Middle Ages anymore. We have laws against this kind of bullshit.

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:06 pm

Alright, this is just fucked up.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:06 pm

Sacred United Rome wrote:Those that sodomized any of the victims should be hanged to death for sodomy, the people that did not sodomize any of the victims but still participated in sexual hazing should be whipped really really bad.

Cut the edge you quack.
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Postby Alexanda » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:07 pm

Those who committed this horrible crime should be arrested and taken to court.
Really, this is simply horrible. One wouldn't expect to be assaulted in a school locker room! Imagine the shock.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:10 pm

Sacred United Rome wrote:Those that sodomized any of the victims should be hanged to death for sodomy, the people that did not sodomize any of the victims but still participated in sexual hazing should be whipped really really bad.


Or we could just charge them for sexually assaulting another human being, punish them sufficiently, and rehabilitate them?

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Dyakovo's post is missing half of the report.
-Below the picture is remaining half.
Michael Kasdan says there's another word for what happened.

"It's rape," he writes for the Good Men Project. "Yes, it occurred as part of a football team hazing program, and it is boys acting against other boys, but - if the allegations are true - it is rape just the same."

Kasdan says that what happened in Sayreville was abuse, with the sexual aspect being another way to assert dominance.

While the stories are disturbing, they are far from uncommon, says Robert Silverman of the Daily Beast. It's a part of a larger issue across the country and at all levels of the sport.

He says that there is a direct connection between the stories in Sayreville, bullying in the Miami Dolphins locker room, the Steubenville, Ohio, rape case and the Pennsylvania State University child sex abuse scandal. In all of these cases, the perpetrators had been told that they weren't beholden to the regular rules that all other members of society have to follow.

Silverman says that cancelling the season was the right thing to do.

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"The tragedy here isn't a lost season, it's the four boys that raped, and the absolution of individual and collective responsibility," he writes.

So what happens next?

The editors of the Asbury Park Press are hoping for a change in how schools across the country keep tabs on athletes in their locker rooms.

They write that school boards everywhere should put in place policies that require someone, ideally a member of the coaching staff, to always be present in the facilities until every player leaves. What goes on in the locker room is the school's responsibility, they say.

"If they didn't know, they should have," they write. "The damage is done, children have been harmed. They have to go. This vicious, ugly chapter must serve as a wake-up call that safeguarding students' safety and well-being must be a priority."

New York Post's Naomi Schaefer Riley says that there also needs to be more of an adult presence at home.

She writes that it is illogical to think that anti-bullying rules will make any huge impact on the behaviour of teenagers or the adults who are supervising them. Instead of focusing so much on grades, athletics and other extracurricular activities, perhaps parents need to reorder their priorities, she says.

"When it comes to their friends, we have failed to teach them not only to be good but to judge the character of others, not just adhere to some mindless teen code of loyalty," she writes.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:16 pm

The ones responsible,every one of them should either be suspended or outright kicked out for what they did, as well as face time for the charges against them, especially the ones accused of sexual assault.

As for the idiots complaining about the season being cancelled and blaming the victims, they all need fraking slapped.
Sacred United Rome wrote:Those that sodomized any of the victims should be hanged to death for sodomy, the people that did not sodomize any of the victims but still participated in sexual hazing should be whipped really really bad.

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:17 pm

Sacred United Rome wrote:Those that sodomized any of the victims should be hanged to death for sodomy, the people that did not sodomize any of the victims but still participated in sexual hazing should be whipped really really bad.

Well bend me over and fuck me with a Tardis, we went past 88 mph and went to the year 1245 CE.

Hello there native, it appears that you wish to punish these scroudrals with whips and hangings, all for sodomy, while it was against their victims will, perhaps we could do something more Human?

whats that you say? its 2014?

Then why the fuck are you acting like this is Medieval Europe?
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