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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:26 pm
by Pope Joan
This will work great for Harper, and at such an opportune time, when his national policies are under a cloud.

Everyone rallies behind the leader in a time of war.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:26 pm
by Ontorisa
Northwest Slobovia wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:Have an AP journalist saying otherwise. Look up Jorge Barrera.

https://twitter.com/JorgeBarrera/status ... 5460717568

Not seeing AP credentials mentioned.


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EDIT:

Pope Joan wrote:This will work great for Harper, and at such an opportune time, when his national policies are under a cloud.

Everyone rallies behind the leader in a time of war.


You think Harper is behind this..? :eyebrow:

Alyakia wrote:witnesses say a lot of shit. you will soon learn that what witnesses say during chaotic events may not always line up with reality.


Person was quite calm and collected, tbh, considering that she was a tour guide and had just been rescued.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:31 pm
by The Flood
Was it ISIS? I've only heard what they've said on the radio and they haven't clarified who the perpetrator was yet.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:31 pm
by Vamtrl
Ontorisa wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:Have an AP journalist saying otherwise. Look up Jorge Barrera.

https://twitter.com/JorgeBarrera/status ... 5460717568


Heard on the radio someone who was right beside the damn guy say Caucasian, dark clothes, dark and long hair and a long gun.


Probably true.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:32 pm
by Kryozerkia
Gunman named. Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, born in Canada in 1982. Looks like the shooter is a Canadian citizen.

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/525017500061536258

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:32 pm
by Northwest Slobovia
The Flood wrote:Was it ISIS? I've only heard what they've said on the radio and they haven't clarified who the perpetrator was yet.

Nobody knows. There may be more than one perp, but the one we know about is dead, and a little hard to interrogate.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:32 pm
by Svatantra Mulukama
Ontorisa wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:Not seeing AP credentials mentioned.


^

EDIT:

Pope Joan wrote:This will work great for Harper, and at such an opportune time, when his national policies are under a cloud.

Everyone rallies behind the leader in a time of war.


You think Harper is behind this..? :eyebrow:

Alyakia wrote:witnesses say a lot of shit. you will soon learn that what witnesses say during chaotic events may not always line up with reality.


Person was quite calm and collected, tbh, considering that she was a tour guide and had just been rescued.


Pope Joan is not implying that. He's just noting that this could help Harper in the polls.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:34 pm
by Ontorisa
The Flood wrote:Was it ISIS? I've only heard what they've said on the radio and they haven't clarified who the perpetrator was yet.


Nobody knows. RCMP and CSIS aren't saying anything so CBC, CTV and all of the news agencies are relying heavily on witness accounts.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:34 pm
by Blackledge
Kryozerkia wrote:Gunman named. Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, born in Canada in 1982. Looks like the shooter is a Canadian citizen.

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/525017500061536258

So the shooter is a Québécois rebel Islamist radical. Everyone's conspiracy theory wins.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:34 pm
by Northwest Slobovia
Kryozerkia wrote:Gunman named. Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, born in Canada in 1982. Looks like the shooter is a Canadian citizen.

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/525017500061536258

Hyphenated name: damn suspicious. /nods

Wonder who the CBC is citing...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:36 pm
by Ontorisa
Blackledge wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:Gunman named. Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, born in Canada in 1982. Looks like the shooter is a Canadian citizen.

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/525017500061536258

So the shooter is a Québécois rebel Islamist radical. Everyone's conspiracy theory wins.


We don't know if he's a Islamist radical. That hasn't been confirmed. If it has, proof or it never happened.

EDIT:

@North Slob

Some American news agency. GG CBC, you just got outplayed by some American news agency over an international Canadian story.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:36 pm
by Alyakia
apparently that's american media. not actually confirmed by canadian authorities.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:36 pm
by Kryozerkia
Blackledge wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:Gunman named. Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, born in Canada in 1982. Looks like the shooter is a Canadian citizen.

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/525017500061536258

So the shooter is a Québécois rebel Islamist radical. Everyone's conspiracy theory wins.

And everyone loses! :lol:

For those wanting a proper source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa- ... -1.2808710 Here is CBC again because well, it's CBC.

EDIT -- and yes, there is no word from Canadian officials but it is something. It keeps people from their wild guesses and helps keep the discussion in check.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:36 pm
by Northwest Slobovia
Ontorisa wrote:
Blackledge wrote:So the shooter is a Québécois rebel Islamist radical. Everyone's conspiracy theory wins.


We don't know if he's a Islamist radical. That hasn't been confirmed. If it has, proof or it never happened.

I think Blackledge is making a joke.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:37 pm
by Blackledge
Northwest Slobovia wrote:Hyphenated name: damn suspicious. /nods

Wonder who the CBC is citing...

Not sure. I found the name earlier but refrained from posting it because a google search only brought up a "trending topic" site four hours ago and 4chan's racist /pol/ board.

But now everyone is saying it, so it must be so.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:37 pm
by Agritum
Pope Joan wrote:This will work great for Harper, and at such an opportune time, when his national policies are under a cloud.

Everyone rallies behind the leader in a time of war.

I believe that his militarism is one of the main criticism levied at him by the opposition, actually.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:38 pm
by Northwest Slobovia
Kryozerkia wrote:
Blackledge wrote:So the shooter is a Québécois rebel Islamist radical. Everyone's conspiracy theory wins.

And everyone loses! :lol:

For those wanting a proper source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa- ... -1.2808710 Here is CBC again because well, it's CBC.

CBC wrote:U.S. officials told CBS News the name of the dead Ottawa shooting suspect is Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a Canadian born in 1982.

Ah, that's what I wanted. Now who are these "US officials"...?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:38 pm
by Ontorisa
Kryozerkia wrote:
Blackledge wrote:So the shooter is a Québécois rebel Islamist radical. Everyone's conspiracy theory wins.

And everyone loses! :lol:

For those wanting a proper source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa- ... -1.2808710 Here is CBC again because well, it's CBC.


No offence Kryo, but do you have something against CBC? :eyebrow:

They host Hockey Night in Canada, so I have to defend them :[

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:39 pm
by Kryozerkia
Ontorisa wrote:No offence Kryo, but do you have something against CBC? :eyebrow:

They host Hockey Night in Canada, so I have to defend them :[

No. No I don't. Unless they're showing a Sens game, then I don't like them. Unless the Sens are losing.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:40 pm
by Blackledge
Ontorisa wrote:We don't know if he's a Islamist radical. That hasn't been confirmed. If it has, proof or it never happened.

You've never heard of ISQGL? The Islamic State of Quebec and the Great Lakes?

Kryozerkia wrote:
Blackledge wrote:So the shooter is a Québécois rebel Islamist radical. Everyone's conspiracy theory wins.

And everyone loses! :lol:

Around French, watch the stench.

Northwest Slobovia wrote:I think Blackledge is making a joke.

Shh wait, don't let it be known

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:41 pm
by Ontorisa
Kryozerkia wrote:
Ontorisa wrote:No offence Kryo, but do you have something against CBC? :eyebrow:

They host Hockey Night in Canada, so I have to defend them :[

No. No I don't. Unless they're showing a Sens game, then I don't like them. Unless the Sens are losing.


What?!

#Turris4Lyfe

Blackledge wrote:
Ontorisa wrote:We don't know if he's a Islamist radical. That hasn't been confirmed. If it has, proof or it never happened.

You've never heard of ISQGL? The Islamic State of Quebec and the Great Lakes?


:rofl:

Okay man, you got me there. I thought you were serious.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:42 pm
by Napkiraly
Kryozerkia wrote:
Blackledge wrote:So the shooter is a Québécois rebel Islamist radical. Everyone's conspiracy theory wins.

And everyone loses! :lol:

For those wanting a proper source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa- ... -1.2808710 Here is CBC again because well, it's CBC.

EDIT -- and yes, there is no word from Canadian officials but it is something. It keeps people from their wild guesses and helps keep the discussion in check.

All it does is really throw out any claims that the shooter was an immigrant. I don't know why everyone jumps on the "it must be an immigrant!" wagon...

It's a silly wagon.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:45 pm
by Northwest Slobovia
Napkiraly wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:And everyone loses! :lol:

For those wanting a proper source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa- ... -1.2808710 Here is CBC again because well, it's CBC.

EDIT -- and yes, there is no word from Canadian officials but it is something. It keeps people from their wild guesses and helps keep the discussion in check.

All it does is really throw out any claims that the shooter was an immigrant. I don't know why everyone jumps on the "it must be an immigrant!" wagon...

It's a silly wagon.

Scapegoating: it's not just for everybody any more! :p

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:49 pm
by Anollasia
They say it was terrorists...one was shot dead and the others are being searched. At least that's what I last heard. I have no intent to worry or panic about this.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:51 pm
by Ontorisa
Anollasia wrote:They say it was terrorists...one was shot dead and the others are being searched. At least that's what I last heard. I have no intent to worry or panic about this.


Some people are saying terrorists, others gunmen, others gang members and others crazy vets