by Arumdaum » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:04 pm
by Quilavaland » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:06 pm
by Prevnina » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:08 pm
Arumdaum wrote:-The word "privilege" has recently become pretty big, with many people talking about its effects, or how they believe it doesn't exist. The rise of movements against racism and sexism have also meant reaction in the form of MRAs and those who argue that it is in fact white people who have it hard (with affirmative action at their forefront).-
by Arumdaum » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:10 pm
Lalaki wrote:To an extent. I predict 2020-2040 will be more notable as each generation becomes more progressive.
by Arumdaum » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:13 pm
Quilavaland wrote:Well they won't be notable in Australia. Tony Abbott's made sure the country moves back to the 1950s and stays there.
by Emerald-Springs » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:14 pm
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by Hyfling » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:23 pm
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by Arumdaum » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:27 pm
Hyfling wrote:Maybe. Although same sex marriage will likely be pretty well accepted by this time, and trans issues will probably be the forefront of future SJ movements I think the 1960s will remain the decade of social justice, what with female and black rights movements all through the the period. A few modern 'internet activists' won't even compare.
I personally think (or maybe hope) that the 2010s and 2020s go down as one of those eras of economic prosperity and mass cultural and social change, along with the 1920s, 1950/60s and 1980s.
by Meryuma » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:27 am
Hyfling wrote:Maybe. Although same sex marriage will likely be pretty well accepted by this time, and trans issues will probably be the forefront of future SJ movements I think the 1960s will remain the decade of social justice, what with female and black rights movements all through the the period. A few modern 'internet activists' won't even compare.
I personally think (or maybe hope) that the 2010s and 2020s go down as one of those eras of economic prosperity and mass cultural and social change, along with the 1920s, 1950/60s and 1980s.
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by The Blaatschapen » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:54 am
Arumdaum wrote:At least, perhaps, to the West, or just the United States.
This has to do with race, sexual orientation, and gender.
I don't think social justice issues used to be so prevalent before the 2010s. Support for same-sex marriage in the United States wasn't very prevalent or popular until a few years ago. It's come to the point where many more established Republicans are just refusing to talk about it.
Referring to yourself as a feminist has become much more in vogue, with figures who previously denied being feminists (such as Taylor Swift, who said she wasn't a feminist because "she didn't hate men") now being feminists. Beyonce's been another major figure in bringing feminism to popular culture, featuring a TEDTalk excerpt from Nigerian writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie (who is a feminist) in one of her songs, and having the word "FEMINIST" come up really big in one of her shows. In high schools, feminist clubs have either been started or been enlarged. My previous high school's feminist club came into being last year, and the size of it greatly expanded this year.
The word "fabulous!~" (and in the voice how everyone imagines it to be pronounced) has also entered popular culture. It is now also more socially acceptable for men to speak in a way that's considered more "feminine," even if he isn't homosexual. I've also noticed that there's been more people doing that. Either that or I have just been coincidentally running into more people who talk like that.
The word "privilege" has recently become pretty big, with many people talking about its effects, or how they believe it doesn't exist. The rise of movements against racism and sexism have also meant reaction in the form of MRAs and those who argue that it is in fact white people who have it hard (with affirmative action at their forefront).
The whole social justice issue has entered popular culture, with movies such as Dear White People coming out, and various websites and blogs dedicated to such issues. Information regarding such issues have also been easier to spread with the rise of social media. Key & Peele, a popular comedy duo, have also addressed the issues regarding race and sexual orientation in many of their skits.
As with anything, though, talk on such issues will eventually fall out of fashion, and we'll move on to discussing other things, especially if bigger issues arise, or we feel that those issues have been addressed in some way or another.
Do you think in a few decades, kids will be learning it for US history/APUSH/whatever as being representative of thought during the Obama era? How do you think people will perceive it? How do you think all this discussion and controversy on the topic will change society in the future?
When race-related things come up in a class on American history, Ferguson is probably definitely coming up, and perhaps the shooting of Trayvon Martin.
Have you noticed how the SJ-related issues have entered popular culture?
I think, eventually, that people will recognize that some groups are more "privileged" than others, even though many today may not believe it. As of current, there's some division, but I think that eventually there will be some sort of general consensus sometime in the future, although perhaps with an initial reaction lasting for a while against what is perceived as being the general excesses of this era.
Sorry that the post is messy, I randomly edited sentences while making this, inserted some here, some there, moved around some stuff, and yeah.
by T Roosevelt » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:01 am
Quilavaland wrote:Well they won't be notable in Australia. Tony Abbott's made sure the country moves back to the 1950s and stays there.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:01 am
by T Roosevelt » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:02 am
It's going to be a bumpy ride, an incredibly somber, bumpy ride.Arumdaum wrote:When race-related things come up in a class on American history, Ferguson is probably definitely coming up, and perhaps the shooting of Trayvon Martin.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:06 am
T Roosevelt wrote:Quilavaland wrote:Well they won't be notable in Australia. Tony Abbott's made sure the country moves back to the 1950s and stays there.
Good, social justice is reasonable in inhumanely oppressive settings. However, when you're living in a first world nation and have the luxury of democracy; the horses should be held tight.
by L Ron Cupboard » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:17 am
by T Roosevelt » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:19 am
I wouldn't set foot at any gay wedding but I will give gay marriage a chance to be implemented. Gay marriage isn't as terrible an evil as marijuana. Two gay people getting married won't give the 'couple' lymphoma, it won't make them less high-yielding, economically. Gay marriage is a fashion, while marijuana kills.Yumyumsuppertime wrote:It's far too early to tell. I suspect that the sudden opening of marriage rights and increased marijuana legalization will be defining topics, though considering that we still have six years left in which nearly anything can happen, those could easily be overshadowed by other issues. I don't think that we'll be defined by those issues in the same way that the 60s were, though, or to the same degree.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:23 am
L Ron Cupboard wrote:From the perspective of someone in their fifties, it hasn't really stood out as that to me, just a quite good decade in the continuous erosion of bad ideas.
by T Roosevelt » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:25 am
by Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:30 am
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