Does God Exist?

[Highever]

I don't see it.

Congratulations! The first non-perv!

I am ashamed to say I immediately saw it...

[Twilight Imperium]

Because neutrino detectors don't exist.

Uh uh.

Modern physics called. They say they have an update for you.

Neutrino detectors don't detect neutrinos. They detect photons, the explanation for which is the rare interaction between atoms and neutrinos.

And geiger counters don't detect radiation, they detect ionization events, the explanation of which is the interaction of alpha particles with inert gases.

Nobody likes a nit-picker, man.

[Immoren]

Neutrino detectors don't detect neutrinos. They detect photons, the explanation for which is the rare interaction between atoms and neutrinos.

And geiger counters don't detect radiation, they detect ionization events, the explanation of which is the interaction of alpha particles with inert gases.

Nobody likes a nit-picker, man.

Something to do with kvantums anyway.

[Securitan]

And geiger counters don't detect radiation, they detect ionization events, the explanation of which is the interaction of alpha particles with inert gases.

Nobody likes a nit-picker, man.

Something to do with kvantums anyway.

What the hell is a "kvantum"? Is that Swedish?

[Immoren]

Something to do with kvantums anyway.

What the hell is a "kvantum"? Is that Swedish?

Aalternative spelling for "quantum".

[Securitan]

What the hell is a "kvantum"? Is that Swedish?

Aalternative spelling for "quantum".

I suppose Immoren is alternative spelling for "dumbass" then. (just kidding I just needed to get that insult out there)

[Jute]

The heck?

It's because he's gonna fuck some sinners up.

I don't know. Looks pretty flaccid to me.

I'm seeing a tapir. I'd probably to squint a lot to see what you mean.

Something to do with kvantums anyway.

What the hell is a "kvantum"? Is that Swedish?

Hungarian.

[Vashta Nerada]

The prophecies are still guesses. Guesses that happened to be correct, sure, but guesses nonetheless. That's what I meant. That's no proof of God nor is it proof that the whole Bible is suddenly correct.

Something is not a guess if you write it down after it happened. When I say the movie Frozen will be a financial succes I am not guessing. When I put those words into the mouth of a character I claim lived 10 years ago I am still not guessin

And you would have proof to support this?

[The Alma Mater]

Something is not a guess if you write it down after it happened. When I say the movie Frozen will be a financial succes I am not guessing. When I put those words into the mouth of a character I claim lived 10 years ago I am still not guessin

And you would have proof to support this?

Of what ? Of that if I say something after it happened I am not guessing or predicting or prophesising ?
Well eeehm... yes ?

If you mean evidence that "prophecies in the Bible were often written after the fact" - well, yes again. Scholars mostly agree on when the Bible was actually written after all - and even the Old Testament is not that old.

[Luminesa]

Are you speaking to me or the other guy? Either way, can you explain how we find the position of an electron? I'm really interested.

On NSG, when you quote someone you are responding to them directly. That is the convention. I did not quote you.

We can only estimate experimentally the position of an electron, as our experimental methods alter it's position. It has nothing to do with the universe being chaotic, as Martean seems to think.
Though I suspect he may be referring to the uncertainty principle - which is simply the result of momentum and position being conjugate variables - again, nothing to do with the universe being chaotic.

True. Things can be uncertain, that doesn't mean the universe is chaotic. It's just like a multiple-choice test. Just because I'm uncertain of the answer doesn't mean there is no answer.

[The Grey Wolf]

I don't see it.

Congratulations! The first non-perv!

I... don't get it.

[Twilight Imperium]

True. Things can be uncertain, that doesn't mean the universe is chaotic. It's just like a multiple-choice test. Just because I'm uncertain of the answer doesn't mean there is no answer.

Exactly.

Also, the existence of one correct answer also doesn't point to a Creator.

[Eagalya]

One thing which should be borne in mind is that being affiliated with a religion is not necessary for a belief in God, or generally speaking a creator or divine providence.

Belief in Divine Providence =/= Religion at all times.

Never let some some writings written hundreds to thousands of years ago by ordinary people, who would obviously did not have the knowledge we have today with scientific evidence, dictate your beliefs.

[Welskerland]

Religion is something that can be neither proven nor disproven. This goes for creationism and evolutionism, neither have been 100% proven.

He might exist and he might not. Who knows for certain, the Universe is too large to grasp.

I have seen good religious people and bad religious people and the I say the same for the non religious too. Not everyone in a group is a dangerous radical.

[Twilight Imperium]

Religion is something that can be neither proven nor disproven. This goes for creationism and evolutionism, neither have been 100% proven.

He might exist and he might not. Who knows for certain, the Universe is too large to grasp.

I have seen good religious people and bad religious people and the I say the same for the non religious too. Not everyone in a group is a dangerous radical.

True, but the theory of evolution is closer to 95%, and creationism is what, 12%? Not everything needs a balanced approach.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Religion is something that can be neither proven nor disproven. This goes for creationism and evolutionism, neither have been 100% proven.

He might exist and he might not. Who knows for certain, the Universe is too large to grasp.

I have seen good religious people and bad religious people and the I say the same for the non religious too. Not everyone in a group is a dangerous radical.

True, but the theory of evolution is closer to 95%, and creationism is what, 12%? Not everything needs a balanced approach.

More like 100% and 0%, evolution is a done deal, it's scientific fact.

[Twilight Imperium]

More like 100% and 0%, evolution is a done deal, it's scientific fact.

There's no such thing as 100%, and I'm sure some of the very basic tenets of creationism are true. Hence the numbers.

[Eagalya]

Religion is something that can be neither proven nor disproven. This goes for creationism and evolutionism, neither have been 100% proven.

He might exist and he might not. Who knows for certain, the Universe is too large to grasp.

I have seen good religious people and bad religious people and the I say the same for the non religious too. Not everyone in a group is a dangerous radical.

Creationism, strictly speaking (the idea that the Deity directly made each species as they exist in present form), has obviously already been disproven. Evolution, while not entirely 100% proven (gaps existing due to questions over how single-celled life came about in the first place, etc), is the only theory which is rationally sound.

That debate (if we can even call it that) has little to do with the very specific question regarding the existence of God though.

[Middle C]

More like 100% and 0%, evolution is a done deal, it's scientific fact.

There's no such thing as 100%,

Yes, there is. I am 100% sure that you cannot have a perfect triangle with angles totaling more than 180 degrees.

[Washington Resistance Army]

More like 100% and 0%, evolution is a done deal, it's scientific fact.

There's no such thing as 100%, and I'm sure some of the very basic tenets of creationism are true. Hence the numbers.

There are such things as 100%, things change over time, if you throw something in the air it will come back down etc. There are gaps in places yes, but that's why we keep looking for those answers. Not to mention the very order of creation is absurd, light before stars and our own sun etc.

[Twilight Imperium]

There's no such thing as 100%,

Yes, there is. I am 100% sure that you cannot have a perfect triangle with angles totaling more than 180 degrees.

Outside of strict mathematical definitions, there's no such thing as 100%.

[Immoren]

There's no such thing as 100%, and I'm sure some of the very basic tenets of creationism are true. Hence the numbers.

There are such things as 100%, things change over time, if you throw something in the air it will come back down etc. There are gaps in places yes, but that's why we keep looking for those answers. Not to mention the very order of creation is absurd, light before stars and our own sun etc.

You still better always assume that nothing can be known 100% surety.

[Middle C]

Yes, there is. I am 100% sure that you cannot have a perfect triangle with angles totaling more than 180 degrees.

Outside of strict mathematical definitions, there's no such thing as 100%.

No, but that degree of uncertainty is so minuscule that wagering one's life against a dollar on the truth of the matter would be more than a fair bet.

[Middle C]

There are such things as 100%, things change over time, if you throw something in the air it will come back down etc. There are gaps in places yes, but that's why we keep looking for those answers. Not to mention the very order of creation is absurd, light before stars and our own sun etc.

You still better always assume that nothing can be known 100% surety.

Nothing learned from inductive logic can be 100% certain, but that statement is based on deductive logic.

[Twilight Imperium]

Outside of strict mathematical definitions, there's no such thing as 100%.

No, but that degree of uncertainty is so minuscule that wagering one's life against a dollar on the truth of the matter would be more than a fair bet.

Sure, but that's still probability. And a minuscule degree of uncertainty remains a degree of uncertainty.